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Old 02-14-2006, 11:14 PM   #3821
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if you want me to post some builds for 1st or 2nd job, I would be glad to... Good luck I guess...
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:20 PM   #3822
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Low level xbows say they're the same speed as bows, but the way the animation lags your firing causes them to be slower regardless. Personally, I hate using xbows and will go as a hunter.
This obviously shows that I have had an archer and know what I'm talking about somewhat. He's only level 20, so most of my suggestions were "decide for yourself" but I do have some experience as a bowman. Plus, your bow vs xbow suggestions are practically the same as mine. I want a hunter for the stun of arrow bomb and I hate xbows for their lagging when you shoot. See? I know what I'm talking about somewhat, at least. Of course I wouldn't know training areas for beyond 20, which is why I didn't give them. :P

PS: If you're horning/teething/whatevering your archer up to 30, don't bother with the high str thing, I say. I've kept my str pretty low with my archer and I love shooting things. Yeah, the damage is horribly unstable, but when you hit your absolute max with critical shot it's pretty cool. >=D
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:33 PM   #3823
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not true, still unstable :'( and im at max.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:37 PM   #3824
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Sorry about that EB... I didn't know you had an archer. Well... I guess I have to post some builds...
1st job:
Arrow blow and Double shot Build:
1 Blessing of Amazon
2 Blessing of Amazon, 1 in Eye of Amazon
3 Eye
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1 Eye, 2 Critical shot
Max critical shot...
10 in arrow blow
20 in ds
ADVANCE!!!!!
All of the first job builds are basically the same thing... The only thing different is the extra 9-10 points you have at the end, which you could use to put into the other attacking skill, accuracy, or focus... There are many debates about focus, and I personally do not like the skill. It is another waste of mp and another key on my keyboard that is starting to get filled up. I've seen many people max it by the end of 2nd job, but I think it is a waste. Just my opinion. If you go FA'less, you might want to consider just maxing focus just because you replace fa (final attack) with arrow blow in the 4x's.
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FA:
1 Arrow Bomb
19 Mastery
5 Booster
3 Soul
Max FA
14 Arrow Bomb
Max PKB
Max Arrow bomb
add in extra points at the end to soul arrow and booster...
This it the standard build that I see most archers use. The idea behind Final Attack is that if fires another arrow after a skill is used (arrow bomb, ds, arrow blow). This seems like a good skill at first glance because it does more damage than a critical, but it also causes many archers to die. I don't know about you guys, but I like control over my character. FA is passive, so you never know when it is going to activate. It might activate at the wrong time, ending up killing you are having you waste countless hp pots. For example, if you are bombing a mob and fa activates, the rest of the mob will come after you while you are shooting the fa. Also, jump shooting at yetis is nearly impossible and is pointless because if fa activates, you are stuck on the ground for another extra second, getting hit by the ground pound, and thus wasting your time jump shooting. Also, fa is a waste of 30 (!!!!) SP because it doesn't work with 3rd job skills, and mortal blow is a lot better. Mortal blow is also passive, but it doesn't fire extra arrows and actually allows you to sometimes avoid the minimum attacking range. If you are going to make it to 3rd job, I highly suggest putting those 30 points into a different skill. If you decide to get fa, get it as soon as possible so you can get the most out of it and level faster than most during the hard 4x's...
FA less build (my own build)
1 bomb
19 mastery
5 booster
3 soul
maxed arrow blow (20) I messed up my archer here because in first job, I added accuracy instead of arrow blow...>.<
Max PKB
add some into booster so that it isn't as annoying to use
Max Arrow Bomb
Add in extra points into whatever you want

I hope that sorta helps, it isn't that comprehensive, but it is just a general idea of the 2 main builds in the game. I personally love arrow blow because it saves my ass in tons of places... Most archers disagree with my build, but arrow blow has helped a lot, and it saves mp too if you are training on weaker monsters. KB is extremely important to archers. Although you have pkb, it still doesn't help if the monster keeps on running up to you again. With Arrow blow, you can keep the monsters away from you so that you can snipe them off with ds or stun them with bomb. I've been kinda biased here because I don't know much about xbowman builds, but I think it is about the same thing. Hope that helps BONK, Afro, EB, Squeek, and any others who have archers out there...
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1) Arrow Blow sucks and is weak. I prefer stable damage and the chance for double critical over a knockback I won't ever need.

2) Final Attack sucks. It will get you killed.

3) Instead of doing what Cam suggested, there's this way as well, which was my archer's build.

3 Blessing
8 Eye
20 Double Shot
20 Critical
9 Focus

1 Iron Arrow / Arrow Bomb
19 Mastery
6 Booster
4 Soul Arrow
30 Iron Arrow / Arrow Bomb
20 PKB
20 Booster
20 SA
11 Focus

However, I'm not even going to go past level 50. I only want my archer for Ludi PQs. Therefore, I'm just going to get Booster to 6, SA to 4, then max out Iron Arrow. That'll be done at level 50 and the end of my archer. I'll just die at level 50 over and over again so I can keep PQing.

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:38 AM   #3826
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Right now, I am actually considering adding in focus right now... I mean, I really don't need to max soul arrow mainly because of the double mp cost. Booster is useful, but I don't use it all the time. Do you guys think it is worth adding in focus, even if it isn't maxed? Might or might now, just depends on how useful it actually is. I was thinking of leaving soul at 10, get focus to 10, max arrow bomb, and put the rest into booster. It is obvious that I messed up my archer already, but I think that these errors might be fixed... I guess I just need your advice now. Thanks.
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Old 02-15-2006, 07:05 AM   #3827
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on to the good news, i leveled. and pq's at 5-8am are amazing.



so tired i must sleep now :\
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:37 AM   #3828
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Good. You got mastery instead of arrow bomb for the first point. Next level you can put 1 into arrow bomb, 2 into mastery. I dislike Squeek's startup, as a 15% base increase is quite helpful, even at a low level.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:14 AM   #3829
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It's not my startup.

It's the startup of every intelligent archer's build I've ever seen.

Mob skill or an insignificant minimum damage increase? Osnap.

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Old 02-15-2006, 11:09 AM   #3830
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In any case, it doesn't make much of a difference as it's only one level.
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:58 PM   #3831
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I'd rather have bomb first so I could fight groups of things (I really hate not having a mob attack). Especially after seeing what 1 point in Slash Blast did for my warrior, I'd love to go through 1 more level without mastery and perhaps regret it later. One thing I don't know though, does Bomb work with critical? If not, that really sucks, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I would definitely never get Final Attack though. Maybe as a fighter/page, but never as a bowman/xbowman. Fighters can jump right before FA activates to avoid damage, but archers have no such ability to avoid damage. Plus, as a fighter/page you'd mostly be in a monsters face to avoid magic attack damage and let Power Guard absorb damage for you when you take physical hits.

As for what to do with the extra points, I say screw arrow blow. And I'd rather get the accuracy skill instead of focus because focus uses MP and the avoidability isn't all that useful. ALSO, Bless gives +20 accuracy/avoidability, so if you're partying with a cleric Focus would get negated whereas the constant buff from the +accuracy ability wouldn't get nullified.

And ckj, I've made pretty much every character. I wanted to see what I liked, so I made and remade many many characters when I first started the game and stuck with mages. If I had to rank the classes by what I like the most, it'd go something like this: Mages (IL or FP), Dragon Knights, Archers, Pages, Bandits, Fighters, Sin, Clerics, Xbowmen. I'm not sure exactly, cuz I've never gotten anything other than a mage to the 2nd job, but that's just from my experiences thus far. I might put sins higher if they weren't so expensive/I could play on bandit's for a while to see what it's like to have max haste and such while being able to jump shoot.

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In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

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Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:03 PM   #3832
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You can just let me have it and I'll put it up for 4,999,999 in my free market shop the next few nights. That way you do even less work and possibly get an extra mill. :P
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level 46. go me.
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Old 02-15-2006, 09:10 PM   #3834
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emccky is kewl~

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congratulations on getting the ugly hair
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offer is up for anyone else, 1 million mesos for 5k nx cash until I run out.
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It's cool. I like it. Besides, I've never seen anyone with it, so that makes it instantly better than most of the other things.

EDIT: WTF I can't sell any seraphises. I see them sold for 300k in others shops but my 99k isn't good enough :(
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I'd rather have bomb first so I could fight groups of things (I really hate not having a mob attack). Especially after seeing what 1 point in Slash Blast did for my warrior, I'd love to go through 1 more level without mastery and perhaps regret it later. One thing I don't know though, does Bomb work with critical? If not, that really sucks, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yes, it does. Haven't played in a while due to hw and swimming... I get home at 7, take a shower, eat dinner, and start on my hw. By the time I finish everything, its like 10, and I'm not in the mood for playing ms... I might play today because I don't have much hw...
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Hello, Maplers!
MapleStory Client ver. 0.18 is now released!
The following is a list of updates and changes made for this patch:

< Event >
- The Valentine's Day Event with Ace of Hearts has officially ended. We hope you enjoyed the heart chocolates and the chocolate baskets!

< Item >
- The AP Reset scroll is NOW AVAILABLE at the Cash Shop! With this scroll, you'll be able to reset 1 AP and allocate it to your desired field. Take one step closer towards creating the ULTIMATE character in MapleStory!

1) Cash Item

Equipment:

a. Weapon
- Pink Rabbit Puppet
- Teddy Bear

b. Hat
- Pink Knitted Beanie
- Blue Knitted Beanie
- Yellow Knitted Beanie

c. Top
- Rainbow Knit
- Angora Mustang

d. Bottom
- Washed Jeans
- Skirt w/ Tights

e. Shoes
- Transparent Shoes

f. Facial Accessory
- Blush

g. Ring
- Gold-Yellow Quote Ring

Use:

a. Scroll
- AP Reset


Thank you, and Happy Mapling!

-The MapleStory Staff-






So it looks like I'm buying the blush face and an AP reset scroll, to get rid of that 5 in int.
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