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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSv3ig3mIs&eurl= Here's the problem we all face- It's what I like to call "the retribution complex", the almost completely instinctual reaction that says when someone tries to kill us we must defend ourselves in order to protect our lives. Sadly, this has been redefined over and over again through the years and now this mentality applies to many more things, not just the basic protection of our lives. 9/11 happens, let's kill a bunch of our enemies, "we were enslaved for so long and there is now a perceived and maybe not-so perceived racist campaign and a campaign of white people to exterminate blacks, thus we must exterminate them before they do us in." It's this mentality that is a travesty. We've all fallen victim to it. I, for one, cannot say that I've never felt a fervent amount of disdain for another or "others" due to some wrong they(the people) may have committed in my direction. Only recently have I begun to understand the true nature of these feelings and what causes it. Nationalism. Nationalism is a double-edged sword. It's what breeds these kinds of problems. And by no means am I just defining a "nation" as a state; I'm also defining a nation as a group of people, or its correct definition, "an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family, often speaking the same language or cognate languages." and nationalism as "devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism." It's this sense that causes these feelings. That mixed in with history, a long bloody history of conflict and strife and biased education and possibly some personal experiences of these horrific experiences that have caused one's perception to be shifted forever. Pride is a problem, it's a problem that blinds people and helps them forget about the other people that exist on this planet. I'd go into more detail, but I'm extremely interested to hear some of your opinions...
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Take out the D and S.
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I heard "White people want to kill us, I don't know why, but I know it's true".
I turned it off after that.
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Way to not add to the discussion at all.
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nationalism is a manifestation of the kind of psychological phenomena that predispose people to identify with groups in order to increase their safety which leads almost inevitably to outgroup bias. But nationalism isn't itself the cause of retribution. Rather, both nationalism and retribution bias are the effects of the human social tendencies to form groups and look unfavorably upon those not in one's group.
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"retaliation. tit for tit"
"i dont think that's the expression..." i think that "the retaliation complex" (lol) really does come from nationalism, if you narrow the scope of the "retaliation complex" to dealing only with retaliation of larger entities... if you're dealing with retaliation on a personal level, it'll be linked to insecurities and lack of compassion or insensitivity. but the feeling of "righteous indignation" that we all get sometimes, the one that leads to retaliation, really comes from the inability to understand or forgive those around us, whether on a larger scale or on a personal one. i for one can understand why osama bin laden would want to attack our country, not that i would ever condone his actions. i'm just saying that i can step into his shoes, see how he might feel helpless, and resort to terrorism. i mean, we arent the most understanding nation, and we dont really have a great reputation for listening to outsiders... a lot of pride there, which i think is what specforces was getting at. nobody likes listening to outsiders. most nations have a tremendous amount of pride, and that pride is really what causes the retaliation on a national scale. osama retaliated against us, and we retaliated against him. we both had too much pride to forgive the other. it's really hard to imagine, but what if right after the WTC attacks the president had come out and said on TV "we forgive you. we understand that we're really intimidating, and we kind of push people around, but we really do have our hearts in the right places. we'll really try to listen, you dont need to attack us, even if you think we're evil, give us a chance at trying to work things out without violence..." i know, sappy and not realistic at all, but what would happen, hypothetically, if we came out and said something like this? if we didnt automatically resort to violence and vengence... i'm making myself sick, i just read what i said and i sound like angel shiyue. time to make like a true democrat and flip flop. bombs bombs bombs.
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bingo
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