Old 12-30-2006, 02:32 PM   #21
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That's a comic I tried to get into United States of ******ry. I've made better ones as I progressed, thank the lord.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:38 PM   #22
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That's a comic I tried to get into United States of ******ry. I've made better ones as I progressed, thank the lord.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:43 PM   #23
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You say we're imposing on your right to type with less than decent grammar, while at the same time imposing on our right to bitch about it...

I really don't see what the big deal is with proper grammar. If you just practice it for a few weeks it becomes natural. I have to go out of my way to type badly, and that winds up taking me twice as long to type, so "saving time" isn't an excuse.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:46 PM   #24
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For me there are lines you don't cross. Grammar doesn't have to be perfect, and the message is more important. However, when it's noticably bad; IE huge spelling mistakes and use of slang and shortcuts, it gets annoying.

Big words are just for show, and over-using them makes you sound like a **** as well. A post that is over dramatic with wording really takes away from the message, and for me my motto is keep things as simple as you can.

So in my opinion you can go too far in either direction.

Not that I have to worry about the second case very much XD The first case is where all the problems are. I think people need to present themselfs in a decent manner, or else they just look like fools. If people don't want to clean up their act and like looking like a fool then whatever, so be it.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:48 PM   #25
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Poor grammar and spelling are signs of an uneducated, lazy person. A person whom I have desire to be associated with.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:53 PM   #26
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I think people need to present themselfs in a decent manner...
Hmm, since we're on the topic.

It's either "people need to present themselves" or "the individual(but I'd accept they because this rule sucks) needs to present themself."

Also, I type MUCH faster in proper grammar than I do in shorthand. In fact, I hate typing in shorthand, because I have to think in order to say a word like 4get or something like that. Rather, I can just type whatever's in my head this way and never really have to, well, think.

Also, big words just come out every once in a while, I don't use them to try to sound smart, as I'm sure many others don't.
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:59 PM   #27
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I guess you can try to correct the grammar, but it's a pointless effort.
This isn't true at all. I frequently PM members with horrible orthography and ask them to type better. More often than not, they do. And I don't just do it because it's easier on my eyes. I try to get them to understand that they will be ignored and thought less of if they type poorly. Y'know where that's especially true? Places that aren't the internet. Real life, if you will. Getting people to type better on internet forums and chat rooms is just a step; it's a habit that is then carried over into all forms of writing, which is only beneficial to everybody and not harmful to anybody.

It doesn't matter if you like it or not; but if you can't effectively communicate, you won't be taken seriously. It's true that this fact is less apparent online on flash game forums and the like, but that's no reason to disregard it completely.

Would you honestly rather read gaiaonline than FFR, where most of the forum regulars use good spelling and grammar?

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It's either "people need to present themselves" or "the individual(but I'd accept they because this rule sucks) needs to present themself."
Uh, "themself" isn't a word. You'd do well to avoid reflexivity as much as possible in this case, but either make it gender restrictive and say "himself" or gender neutral and say "him- or herself".

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Old 12-30-2006, 03:01 PM   #28
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Typos happen. I personally rarely reread what I have written.

There's a difference between a typo and just not knowing how to spell a word/ structure a sentence and making it obvious. I have a flock of words I commonly misspell XD

Big words do have their place, of course. It bothers me when people try too hard though. I guess it has to do with personal style and opinion in the end.
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Also, big words just come out every once in a while, I don't use them to try to sound smart, as I'm sure many others don't.
You have no idea how many people tried to call me an asshole 'cause of that.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:28 PM   #30
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I actually enjoy typing properly. FFR improved my vocabulary and overall writing ability. I don't really enjoy enforcing correct grammar upon people, but I don't mind that the site enforces it.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:42 PM   #31
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You have no idea how many people tried to call me an asshole 'cause of that.
Me too. I LOVE language (not as much as Shakespeare did...) and I have a rather broad vocabulary and a somewhat eloquent style of typing and speaking, and frequently I have to really conciously tone it down in order for people to NOT think me pretentious.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:45 PM   #32
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Relating to the idea that incorrect grammar makes you look less intelligent.
You guys do know this is a CRITICAL THINKING thread right? I think the major problem is that people come in thinking they can type horribly and expect people to understand and respect them. I guess what I'm saying is that in any other part of the forum, less than standard grammar is somewhat acceptable mainly because you are supposedly talking to a bunch of incoherent 13 year olds anyway. So in this part of the forum, I guess I just expect more out of people but thats just me.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:46 PM   #33
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I like to use proper grammar because, as Reach said, the message is more important. Sometimes, deplorable grammar interferes with your message. Then the message is not relayed properly and the reader(s) perceive it differently. Then the reader(s) react and reply differently from what you want.
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Old 12-30-2006, 04:13 PM   #34
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Actually the only reason I try to use good grammar is because of Squeek >.>...
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:07 AM   #35
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Most people that are grammer nazi's dont really care about your bad grammer. They just want to make fun of you for something that doesnt matter to make themselves look more intellegent.
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:52 AM   #36
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I try to make my grammar as good as possible, and since learning to touch type (thankyou american school) shorthand typing is actually much slower because as ToshX said, I can just type whats in my head without having to think about how to make it shorter.

The only thing i (look, like right there!) often do is not capitalise my Eyes, I guess its because Microsoft word self-corrects them and so its made me lazy, although I only forgot to do it once in this post and I did see it straight away

However although I have pretty decent grammar I dont mind too much if someone elses post doesn't. I easily overlook missed apostrophes and typos because I know I do it too, unless the whole post is written in texting language (omg lolz srsly!) then I dont mind

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Old 12-31-2006, 11:22 AM   #37
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Most people that are grammer nazi's dont really care about your bad grammer. They just want to make fun of you for something that doesnt matter to make themselves look more intellegent.
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:21 PM   #38
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i don't care to much for capitalization personally. i'll use everything else. i also only use proper grammer when i want to sound smart. >_>
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:32 PM   #39
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Most people that are grammer nazi's dont really care about your bad grammer. They just want to make fun of you for something that doesnt matter to make themselves look more intellegent.
That's not necessarily true. Some have just used good grammar throughout most of their lives and can't stand it when someone types "badly".
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:56 PM   #40
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I think there should be a forum rule that states that we should use proper grammar for a few reasons.

1.I enjoy it because it helped my writing in school.
2.My teacher is always nagging about people abbreviating every thing.
3.Your going to need it in the future for a good job if you don't already have one.
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