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For the first time in forty or so years, we have official second class citizens again!
Good going, society.
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Never thought about it that way.
Go America! Continue to shun those who look / act / seem different from the masses! History has shown that this is a good thing to do! |
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Not in Massachusetts! That is, unless out governor succeeds crapping all over us to make the southern Republicans like him in time for the '08 elections...
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Same-sex* Marriage Unconstitutional.
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Gay people ---> Jump Off Cliff Into Meatgrinder > Get married
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But gay marriage was legalized in Massachusetts. Same with California and some other blue states until the Federal Government through a fit.
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Waiting for the rest of the states to come to their senses.
Until then, same sex couples will be seperate. But equal. You know.
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Wait, what? The federal government passed something on this?
Source?
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I say let em' get married....why should we stop em'? If they wanna get married let them for gods sake! It's a show of love! If people throw a fit it's cause they think it's wrong/stupid/ and they are biast asses...well maybe stupid people shouldn't be allowed to spawn...then we wouldn't have this problem anymore...plus if it's unconsitutional....slavery was allowed in the consistution...we came along way from that right?.....*rant rant*
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The fact that gays remain second class citizens.
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The thing that gets me about the whole debate is one of the founding principles of the US that never actually got carried out:
Separation of Church and State! The only real arguement against same-sex marriage is that it breaks the moral/religious values of marriage. As far as our government is concerned, marriage should only be seen as a legal status, a (somewhat) binding contract between two people, and nothing more. It has no (again, as far as the government should be concerned) moral or religious implications. If the government cared about religious concerns, then hell, we might as well make divorce illegal, since that messes up the sanctity of marriage! Honestly, they should just change the definition of marriage from "between a man and a woman" to "between two people" and let the various churches and religious organizations decide for themselves whether or not they'll recognize the marriages (same way some people will refuse to accept that somebody is divorced, since there's no such thing by their beliefs). Then again, we still swear on the Bible in court and are one nation under God, so I don't think the separation arguement will do much.
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I agree with EB on this one. I think it's my duty as an American citizen that, should I ever get the chance to vote on the issue, vote in favor of gay marriage. As a country, we shouldn't dictate moral ground. Do I condone same-sex marriage? No. But my opinions, while based on more than just a religious level, really don't go against the ideals of the Constitution as some of the extreme right-wingers would have you believe. BUT I will say that if they do allow gay marriages then they better re-allow plural marriages. It's legal for a guy to have 5 mistresses and have children with each of them, but it's illegal for him to be married to all 5. Explain that logic to me, please, because it goes over my head. One final thing, just to clarify a point EB brought up: Separation of church and state does NOT mean what everyone seems to think it does. It does not mean "cannot legislate according to morality of the masses" but it means that a religion cannot sport a political platform. In other words, Gordon B. Hinckley, president and prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, can not run for office.
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There was nothing illegal about gay marriage in the first place.
Gay people have, and always have had, the right to marry, just like straight people. The issue is that gay people aren't happy with the current definition of marriage, as it doesn't allow them to marry the people they want to marry, so they want to change it. There's no civil rights violation going on here - and no one is a second class citizen - just because there is no social structure in place designed to legally recognize homosexual unions. Gay people and straight people have the same rights to marriage, and choosing to waive that right does not give one the power to invent a new right to take its place. |
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So, let's flip it. Let's say only people of the same sex are allowed to marry. That would make me feel like a second class citizen, knowing that because I don't share the same appetities as some that I would no longer recieve tax breaks, I would be forced to testify against my life partner, and my union with whichever woman I want would not be acknowledged by society.
That seems pretty second class to me. And VA just voted a ban on same sex marriage in, which uses the phrase, "Unconstitutional," in it.
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That ban was retarded. Blame the southern half of our state for that crap.
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