Old 12-14-2003, 04:35 PM   #41
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heres my opinion. i'll go ahead and say, i come from a religiously based point of view, so you know.

alright... according to many of the great thinkers (plato, aristotle, freud... thought freud is debatable as a great thinker) wrote entire books on what is natural for humans and their relationships. according to them (and this is part of my view as well) it is unnatural/ perverted (freud) to have a sexual relationship that is not devoted to actually producing offspring. seeing as homosexual relationships have no way to produce offspring (naturally) it is logically unnatural.
So that includes masturbation also

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Old 12-14-2003, 04:44 PM   #42
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On the topic of gay marriage, I don't think that's A-OK. Marriage is an institution that is intended to start a family. That's why it's between a man and a woman, because biologically only a man and a woman can produce children.
Yes, but in an age where the average marriage lasts around 55 years, and the phrase 'until death do us part' is getting its meaning lost, marriage is no longer what it once was. Now its no more than a legal contract, which is basically what gay marriages are striving for. They want to be legally together, so on the off chance one dies or they divorce, they split the assests and save a lot of legal trouble and 'he says' uh...'he says'.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:02 PM   #43
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Jewpin - religion isn't the root of hatred; misinterpretation of religion is one of the roots of hatred. Since this topic is religion-free I won't go into how this applies to Christianity (my religion), but everyone: don't judge the teachings of a religion based on the people who practice it.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:46 PM   #44
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Yes, but in an age where the average marriage lasts around 55 years, and the phrase 'until death do us part' is getting its meaning lost, marriage is no longer what it once was. Now its no more than a legal contract, which is basically what gay marriages are striving for. They want to be legally together, so on the off chance one dies or they divorce, they split the assests and save a lot of legal trouble and 'he says' uh...'he says'.
Anti, there are many gay couples who do want children, and who are unable to adopt because they're not legally married. Allowing gay marriage would do nothing but further their ambitions. Children should be raised by a male parent and a female parent.

I hear the arguments coming now.
"What about single parents?" That's an unfortunate situation, but the single parent tries to make the best they can out of the situation he or she has been placed in. Very few people choose to be single parents.

"What if the gay couple is more loving than a straight couple?" Even a loving gay couple is going to be less than ideal parents for a child than a straight couple. And the waiting list for adoption is far longer than the number of kids up for adoption.

By the way, is it possible for a mod to disable the language filter in this section of the forum, since we're involved in serious discussion that sometimes involves using less-tha
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Old 12-14-2003, 06:57 PM   #45
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Allowing gay marriage would do nothing but further their ambitions. Children should be raised by a male parent and a female parent.
I totally agree with you on that. And its because I'm thinking of the child's welfare, not the rights of the parents. At the risk of sounding prejudiced, I doubt if a gay couple would be able to raise a child as well, or even in the same way as a straight couple would. I mean, the mother of the family teaches the child one bit, the father another. Each has their own distinct way of doing things. Plus, there's always the question of what happens when the boy child sees his fathers kissing, and goes and kisses another boy in school. Not good.

Beyond that, think about how hard it would be, growing up with gay parents. Most people are ashamed of their family already, but think about bringing your friend home from school one day and you two finding your moms or dads kissing on the couch. And then there's all the people who discriminate against gays, the kid might not have any friends because either the other kids would shun and tease him/her, or the parents might not want their child over at their house. It just causes many problems.

And I agree, can we get a mod to get rid of the filter in this room? Bit annoying having your train of thought interupted every time you have to bypass the censor.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:12 PM   #46
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i dont like gays. something about being gay just creeps me out. ugh.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:38 PM   #47
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Good for you. You have proven to be shallow and misunderstanding, just like the other 90% of the straight population of the US.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:48 PM   #48
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I dont care if your a homosexual or not it all depends if your a kind person then I like you if not your hated.

So if your a cool kind person blablablabla and your a homosexual and I knew I wouldnt care,and if I didnt know big shit...i still wouldnt care...

This girl I know is so shallow shes always like IM HOMOPHOBIC!!!!!! Screaming it and shit,I wonder how those people must feel when they hear it so much from such a retarded person....
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:16 PM   #49
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Hmm . . . do we really know the different effects of a homosexual influence on a child's life through its parents? To the best of my knowledge, there hasn't been a disturbing trend of children with twisted views of the family or other things. And if you want to be horribly stereotypical, there's bound to be one of the pair who "wears the pants" :P ick Anyway . . .

Ooh . . . just wanted to say . . . There's this guy in my school who, usually with the support of his friends, when seeing me in the hall will do that pseudo-cough thing to mask a word. His word of choice: queer. So I do the same thing, with the word straight. Eventually he's going to try and kill me That'll be amusing
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:17 PM   #50
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easily concealable knives work wonders, kineom...
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:25 PM   #51
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ON a completely seperate note, I plan to take som sword play classes
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:30 PM   #52
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do fencing, i do...works miracles on coordination of both hand-eye and feet-eye

it makes you extremely agile, not just for swordfighting, but if someone were to throw a punch at you...you'd easily dodge it

ok u can go back on topic now
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:42 PM   #53
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Fencing is so cool. I used to take it, and during the fight scene in our schools production of "Richard the Third", I got to choreograph it. It was sweet. I even made my death sequence really, really cool.


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Old 12-14-2003, 09:48 PM   #54
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you fence foil, epee, or sabre? I'm proficient with sabre
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I was satisfactory with sabre. I wasn't anything special.


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Sabre's my personal fave...so much more fast paced...really gets adrenaline going
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:05 PM   #57
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I don't mind gays who don't shoot people, who don't murder, and who don't break the law.
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Uhh..how did we get from gays to fencing?
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:08 PM   #59
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Maybe fencing is gay? I don't know for certain - I don't fence.
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some kid calling him gayzorz so he taking sword classes to kill him
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