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People shouldn't put their beliefs to quesiton merely because atheists/agnostics do. The fact that people even doubt their faith just goes to show that they aren't even sure that they should be believing it. |
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Sorry had to side point XD. To go along with kilga, I don't see why people who believe in religion have to throw out scientific logic. I mean yes there are things in the Bible that science cannot explain, but it's not like there's a scientific point that we have proven that contradicts what the Bible says either. (That I know of at least). |
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I'd say the age from when you begin to question things depends...it depends on your intelligence level, it depends on your parents and it depends on your friends. It's different for everyone. Some people never question anything...which is kind of sad actually. I think everyone needs to question their beliefs and reflect on themselves and the world around them in a critical manner. I respect all religious people that have real faith, but blind faith is pretty annoying. Quote:
It's kind of the common denominator. You can be religious and a skeptic, and most highly intelligent religious people are. They just see things in another light. Mind you I don't really classify blind atheism as atheism. Intelligence probably scares people. People are scared of things they don't understand.
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I also believe that people get into this paradigm of thinking of what religion is supposed to be and that's why you have people who throw out any and all ideas... because they don't line up with what they already know. (which lines up with what you said about people fearing intelligence) |
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Oh I know there are many factors involved. I just kind of spat it out because it's one of those fairly obvious answers that noone wants to say, even though they know it's true XD
I mean your family and your friends are going to have an incredible impact on your decision. I think if you are allowed to explore your own mind, most people will come to their own conclusions. However, it isn't that hard to influence someones ability to do this, and dragging them off to church all the time and having an entire family that is telling you that God is the only way doesn't help much for your own thoughts. But then there are still lots and lots of people that will never ever come out of their box even when they're shown the other side of the story. They're stubbron, ignore evidence, don't consider alternate ideas or modifying their viewpoint, and persist to propagate fallacy. Call them fanatics or whatever you'd like...I'd just call them stupid. They usually arn't the most inspiring people to talk to. My friend is a jehova's witness. The guy is extremely cool and fun, and really quite an intelligent person to talk to. I mean, I completely don't agree with his beliefs, and when you talk to the guy I don't think he believes in an ounce of some of the things he does, but his family is so absolutely fanatic about their religion he doesn't really have much of a choice about it while in that house.
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Yes catholic Bible sorry XD. It's said that the first 'complete' Catholic Bible wasn't finished until around 600 A.D.
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*Jehovah's Witness is how you spell it I do believe.
But I can understand where he comes from. When your beliefs are so different than everyone elses, it's hard to explain it in a way that people understand, so usually things are glossed over so people will leave you alone XD. |
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With regard of other people telling you that you should believe in god, it brings up another (what I call) problem with religion; control. The person is scared that you will go to hell, so much so that they try to impose their believes onto you.
Most atheist know more about religion because they almost need an exuse and explanation for their disbelief of god. This confuses me, because I am not blindy following an idea that has no tangable evidense of, other than a book written long ago. It would seem as though an atheist would require approval of another one's religion because there is no evidense of it. There is evidense for being atheist; the absense of proof of a higher being. ![]() |
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You know that every Catholic church's finances are public record? If I went into my church right now and asked to see their books, they'd let me. Quote:
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Christianity is NOT the oldest religion out there. Judeaism (sp?) existed during and way before Jesus' time, it even says in the Bible. (Reach, if you could please point to me who said it...) And more evidence? True Religion? Where do you get all that from? |
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I will agree that converts are the most devout though.. Someone who chooses to be part of a religion clearly knows more about it, or atleast has a justification for believing in it, than someone who is born into it. |
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Like Guido said, questioning one's faith is an excellent way to find answers previously undiscovered. The harder you work for something, the more you appreciate it. If you try to just sit back and enjoy the ride it won't be very enjoyable.
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Thing is, most dislike questioning it because questioning brings forth doubt, and doubt brings forth both a negative and positive possibility. The average believer doesn't like to consider the negative aspect of the doubt. This is why they dislike atheists/agnostics, and see them as people with lesser morale. They can't understand how atheists/agnostics live without a designated faith. There are people who question to be englihtened more, or to seek an actual truth.. but this isn't the case with absolutely everyone.. not even half the people who are 'devout.'
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Pretty good, thanks!
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Wasn't he like, a Jew? |
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I know plenty of atheists/agnostics that can't understand how someone can live following "blind faith", so this works both ways.
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I'm apathetic to other's beliefs. Do what you want. I don't have to understand why you choose to follow what you do. If everyone had this mentality everything would be fine.. but then again, we have people imposing religion and the lack thereof. ^^; Last edited by FictionJunction; 11-7-2006 at 12:30 AM.. |
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