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Old 10-22-2006, 12:14 AM   #1
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Default Rockstar Games' Bully Video Game is Getting Bad Remarks

I don't know if this belongs in CT, but hey, giving it a try...

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http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/raskin/1906

Read for more details. Specific stuff in the article are:
  • U.K. people get pissed about the name of the game (as they have a Bullying Online organization for trying to stop bullying at schools), and Rockstar Games decides to change the name of the U.K. release to Canis Canem Edit, or Dog Eat Dog.
  • In the U.S., members of the Peaceoholic group protests outside Rockstar Games' New York Offices, and a Florida attorney (Jack Thompson) is suing to have the game removed from stores. OH NOES!

What's your opinion on all of this chaos? To me, Bully seems like just some game about bullying. But seriously, if people weren't so upset like this when the GTA series started coming out, why are people getting so upset about Bully? We may have to say goodbye to a possibly successful Rockstar game.

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Old 10-22-2006, 12:29 AM   #2
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I personally think it's too much government intervention. People don't like exactly what someone is doing, so they try to force the population to feel the same way they do--and the easiest way to do it is through the government (Ol' Jack boy) or just massive protests of sheep followers. The name change in Britian was their choice, realistically, so I don't think I can really comment on that.

I remember hearing something like 'freedom is yours until it crosses the boundaries of others'. If it doesn't effect you, let it be. It's not others decisions to decide what others can or can not do.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:37 AM   #3
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I think that people like to argue for the sake of arguing. If they hate the game's name, (Which I still fail to see exactly why, it doesn't tell people to bully others, it doesnt tell people to take bullying) they should do what rickz0rz says. Let it be.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:17 PM   #4
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The parents probably missed that you can fight to stick up for the little guys, and defend them from other bullies.

Of course, you can't bitch and moan about that, so that's no fun.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:21 PM   #5
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Default Re: Rockstar Games' Bully Video Game is Getting Bad Remarks

Yeah, the ads I saw seemed to make it seem like the point of the game is to stop the bullies.

How can people be so much against that, even if it is a questionable way of getting there?
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:05 PM   #6
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Yeah, the ads I saw seemed to make it seem like the point of the game is to stop the bullies.

How can people be so much against that, even if it is a questionable way of getting there?
Because they assume.

Rockstar (GTA? Beating up people / killing people?) + Bullying = O NO VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS

Without even playing the game or figuring out what it's about.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:18 PM   #7
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Because it's human nature to blame the others first.

Parent's don't realize that THEM, not the video games, are the problem. =/
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:18 PM   #8
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They are afraid kids will get their hands on the game and start to try to reproduce what they do in the game at school.

Simple solution is to sue the parents that buy these games for their kids, rather than the guys who make the games themselves.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:15 AM   #9
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Default Re: Rockstar Games' Bully Video Game is Getting Bad Remarks

truthfully i think this game looks hella fun and im gonna go and buy it...

what alot of people dont understand is that at about the age of 8 kids can start to tell the difference between fiction and reality... how so? around that age their brain develops something i like to call "the magic cirle" kind of like a venn diagram with three circles... the on the far left is reality... the one in the middle is mixed... thier imagionation... and the far right is fiction
most kids can percieve what goes where in this diagram so their circles look like this O O O three completely different circles... but there is a small section of people who never completly develop the magic circle

thiers look like this OoO
they are much closer together so things can sometimes blend from one circle into the other and their imagination isnt as big because they cant figure out where it goes and the simplest thing to do? accept it as reality... so their perception of reality becomes mixed with fiction and that is what parents are afraid of... though i still think that people are taking this a tad too far... <.<;

the kids who think like that are like 1 in millions
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:04 AM   #10
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Because they assume.

Rockstar (GTA? Beating up people / killing people?) + Bullying = O NO VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS

Without even playing the game or figuring out what it's about.
yea, that's pretty much what's happening. Rockstar's had a bad rep ever since those Colombine kids did what they did and angry parents needed a finger to point at someone.

They pre-judged Rockstar just from the name of their game before the game even had a release date.
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:12 AM   #11
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Was Rockstar even a household name back when Columbine happened? I thought id and Doom took most the heat for that one.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:44 PM   #12
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The only reason they are playing it in the first place is because their parents are too ignorant to notice the M-rating on a game before buying it.

If somehow the store they bought it from let the 12-year old get it without a parent there, then it's still the parent's fault for giving him the money. And it's again their fault when they see it at home and do nothing about it.

All the parent's fault. Congress just doesn't want to admit to this because they won't be able to put the blame on any one entity.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:47 PM   #13
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Hahaha, if people didn't have enough to complain about, there are gay scenes involving the main character in the game.

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Old 10-23-2006, 01:32 PM   #14
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Hahaha, if people didn't have enough to complain about, there are gay scenes involving the main character in the game.

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That's just lol. That may be just a glitch in the game. But it'd be funny.
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:57 PM   #15
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The only reason they are playing it in the first place is because their parents are too ignorant to notice the M-rating on a game before buying it.

If somehow the store they bought it from let the 12-year old get it without a parent there, then it's still the parent's fault for giving him the money. And it's again their fault when they see it at home and do nothing about it.

All the parent's fault. Congress just doesn't want to admit to this because they won't be able to put the blame on any one entity.
I worked in a video game store over the holiday season that Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas came out. I told people who were purchasing it for their kids that there was vast amounts of violence, swearing, and sex in the game, in the hopes that they wouldn't purchase it. Inevitably, however, they'd just say "it's no worse than what they see on TV" and buy it. I'd usually sigh and ring it up, because I mean, it was my job and so I did it.

People honest to god need to learn to parent. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that there are so many of the current generation of parents that really didn't have much parenting themsleves, coming out of the hippie generation.
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:24 PM   #16
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I worked in a video game store over the holiday season that Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas came out. I told people who were purchasing it for their kids that there was vast amounts of violence, swearing, and sex in the game, in the hopes that they wouldn't purchase it. Inevitably, however, they'd just say "it's no worse than what they see on TV" and buy it. I'd usually sigh and ring it up, because I mean, it was my job and so I did it.

People honest to god need to learn to parent. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that there are so many of the current generation of parents that really didn't have much parenting themsleves, coming out of the hippie generation.
I agree on this. I mostly assume that parents don't have actual understanding of the ESRB coding on the games. Also, I actually have played M and T-rated games without ACTUALLY being the proper age to do so, but I know that graphical violence just isn't up-to-scale with realistic violence.

On the other hand, I don't think that anything can be done.
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Le sigh.

See, my mom checked what I wanted to spend my money on all the time. I wasn't allowed to buy albums with that "explicit lyrics" label on it until I was 16 (by that time, I never bought albums anyway. It was a good idea to save money in the long run). I wasn't allowed to buy R-rated movies until I was 17 (and again, by this time, I didn't care for movies either. Internet <3). I didn't buy an M-rated game until I was 18, but that's only because most M-rated games suck anyway.
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Old 10-23-2006, 05:26 PM   #18
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I researched the game it looks really good. They shouldn't ban a game because its bad. Parents shoud have parental supervision over their kids buying games instead of just banning the games themselves.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:21 AM   #19
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I don't wanna bump my thread about Jack Thompson's court case from over a week ago, so I'll just throw this here.

Original thread: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=51679

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http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bully/j...lly-209583.php

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Take-Two Interactive lawyers have filed a motion to have Jack Thompson declared in contempt of court.

The motion requests that Judge Ronald Friendman, who sat on the hearing overseeing Thompson's failed attempt to have Bully banned, order the Floida lawyer to appear in court and defend himself against the contempt allegation.

If found in contempt, Thompson could face anything from fines, to censure or even jail time.
Should be interesting.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:45 AM   #20
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Thompson is perfectly able to excerscise his own free will to be a jackass, and yet everyone who touches a video game is brainwashed and irrevocably set on a path of destruction.

Sure...

I'm glad someone is taking the fight to him. His actions remind me almost of McCarthyism (sp?)
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