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How would that eliminate our worries? And artificial intelligence has nothing to do with bionics; it can't be an evolutionary step because "artificial" means non-living.
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Artificial intelligence, by definition, is not be human therefore not an evolution of humans. But a fusion with, technology sounds interesting. The whole "Ghost in the Shell" thing.
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It would be an evolutionary step, because eventually, "biological" man won't exist. We already have robotic organs, but what's next? When man has a bionic brain, would he still be considered man? If his body is made up of all bionic parts, would that not make him an artificial being? AI would be able to accomplish things billions of times faster than a normal human brain, and man, once merged with machine, will have no real use for regular human minds. And yes, your right, it wont solve the problem of the expanding universe or the "big crush", but we will definately be able to avoid any problems with our sun. We would have the technology to move about the universe, and settle wherever we wanted.
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hey double post! yeah grandiagod, it would be like the whole "ghost in the Shell" thing. It's also possible that we could all become one single being, kinda. not neccesarily one person, but one mind. Its the same way we are connected by the internet. If we could transfer our thoughts, somehow, put our brains on the web, than thought sharing, like file sharing, would be a reality. anytime something new was discovered, EVERYONE would know about it in seconds. kinda interesting...
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Well, leaps and bounds would have to be made on understanding the human mind, as we really don't at all. Try replicating emotions.
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We could also wake up tomorrow to find that Iran has droped a nuke on us all. I'm fairly sure that we will kill each other before we need to worry about our sun failing or becoming one with machines. Our time will start to come to a end with in the next century.
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Blah, blah, blah, it's the tired, old we're-gonna-kill-ourselves-before-anything-else-does.
Humans will exist for as long as the Earth will support us. Even with nuclear war it can yield sustenance for anyone who tries. It will actually take the collapse of the sun to off us, I'm certain (or the regression of the moon, whichever comes first). Really, though, within the next century? That's just stupid. --Guido http://andy.mikee385.com |
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Really, this thread is about speculations billions of years into the future. "We'll colonize the stars!" "No the Sun will die first!" You guys have no freakin idea. Stop treating speculations as facts that you can "debate".
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Big Bang Theory!!! Hmmmm. Not much to speculate about it except that it's a lot of bull****. I mean, they say we are created from nothing. Then the question is what created the nothing. Then what created the creator of nothing. Then who created the creator of the thing that created the nothing.
God maybe? I do not know, but who created god. Whatever made this can also go the other way. Like, what is smaller than a proton. Or how small is small. If you get what I am saying, all I am saying is that there is one big continuous chain that leads to somewhere and I believe the answers can be found in another universe. |
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ha ha... i read this thing once, and it said, and i quote " explanations of the big bang usually cause headaches among people who can't program the VCR. this is because the theory states 'a really long time ago there was nothing, and suddenly there was a whole lot of nothing, which was actually something, but nobody could really see it, even if there was somebody there, which there wasn't.' ouch!
"the theory depends chiefly on the early theoretical work of albert einstien, the man who invented the 'bad hair day'" unquote. OMG, WTF this is soooooooo random, and the weird thing is, i understand it!!! ![]() Last edited by hacarey; 05-3-2006 at 04:09 PM.. |
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laughsitup... this is science "discussion". Keep religion and god out of it. Also, just because you don't have the mental capacity to understand it doesn't mean that it isn't true or that the explanations we have for it currently aren't the closest we can come (until more technology allows us to form a better understanding, if ever).
Also, as far as the smallest stuff... go back and check out the info on Planck. Max Planck discovered that there is a length that is the smallest anything can be. Just like the speed of light is the fastest anything can travel based on E=mc^2, other formulas explain the Planck time and Planck length as being the smallest possible (Planck time is the time it would take 1 photon of light to travel the Planck length). This probably is over your head, but check out some articles on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae281.cfm <--- simple explanation of Planck time/length
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But the universe wasn't created from nothing. Most people don't really 'get' the theory and just hear a chopped up version from someone else that also heard what they wanted to hear.
You can't destroy energy. It's everywhere. It is absolutely necessary in the construction of the universe, and is essentially what created it. Noone knows what happened inside planck time at the beginning of the universe to cause what happened, but the fact is the universe was not spawned from nothing. There are different theories, like high density fluctuations in vaccuum energy at a point that caused it to just suddenly inflate itself into where the density and such was just right so that it continued to expand, to super strings to a creator (though I mean, a creator is simply an idea not a theory). NOTHING is a pretty hard word to define. What is nothing? Where in the universe can you actually find nothing? Nowhere it seems...an odd thought. XD It will be interesting to see what they come up with over the next decade or so on the topic and on super strings.
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Of course the universe could not have been created from nothing. The law of conservation of energy forbids it.
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Oh, and to the original poster, you shouldn't even consider asking a question like this until you have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Like other's have said, it's a matter of energy. If you take every point in the universe to have some energy density u, then integrating that over all space should give you the total energy of the universe: U = int closed,volume[u*dV]. The volume of the universe is expanding, therefore at the big bang the integral consisted of an infinitely high energy over an infinitely small volume... but still equals the same constant U. What's so hard to believe and follow about this? Quote:
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And you're making the same kind of assumption guido. You're assuming we'll never amass anything greater than a nuke. You heavily rely on what is currently possible.
You could definitely kill every ****ing living thing on this planet (excluding micro organisms). Would life spawn again? Well, yea probably. Doesn't mean we would stand a chance. Hell scratch that. With enough energy you could blow the whole damn thing into pieces. Survive that? I would hope we don't destroy ourselves, and if we didn't, I can't see something like the sun being our end. Hell, using your principle of how well we are capable of surviving, we could definitely use ion engines or something to slowly shuttle people to another solar system with suitable resources, even thousands of lightyears away, using some sort of preservation tubes with enough green resouces to set up a colony on even a barren planet with no proper atmosphere. And I mean, if that isn't possible billions of years from now I might as well give up since we are almost capable of it now on a smaller scale (mars). Technology is just going to halt this instant! Nothing greater is possible! I mean, thinking about what will be possible in the future is a very difficult thing to do considering most of what we can think of and imagine is a result of other things we have experienced. A billion years from now things will be so different, if you were to time travel to that time, you would recognize and understand nothing, not even the human race.
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I agree with Reach. The way things are going, humans will have the technology to travel great distances in space, and to settle on other planets, and we will DEFINATELY have the desire. What will happen when we use up our natural resources, and population is out of control? The planet Earth has a definate lifespan, and i think that it will die much sooner than our sun will.
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wow this topic is all over the place.
getting back to what I think the original poster was asking: we don't have any clue what happened "before" the big bang, nor can we ever (empirically). before in quotation marks because time and space didn't really start until the big bang either. |
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wow. lotsa opinions. well i guess i'm pretty simple minded and will settle with 'god created it all'. and i heard on tv *damn those education programs!!* that whenever scientist dont have info on a reason y the big bang happened they dont put it in. but then it makes u think about the whole god thing, but i believe in that so yeah i don't agree with the big bang thing
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