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Old 05-21-2006, 05:10 PM   #121
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it's a cycle..well.. someday we ARE going to die, but isnt present the important issue to focus on?(sorry if this is a bit off-topic) I mean, why have fear of death, while you're enjoying your days.. you know, living life? I wouldn't have to fear something that I already know that would happen later.. maybe tomorrow, who knows. Its the present that we should all focus on, not the afterlife.
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You can' t prepare for when you die.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:18 PM   #123
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You can if you commit suicide.
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:40 PM   #124
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I just noticed this thread. I can't be bothered with reading the last 7 pages to see where it's deviated, so I'll just comment on the OP.

I am not afraid of death. If it's indeed oblivion, then I won't really have anything to worry about because I'll cease to exist. If it's eternal life, well, good to know. Means I can continue to learn and grow, which is essentially the part of existing that is enjoyable.
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:46 PM   #125
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You can if you commit suicide.
thats true

p.s. ive always been scared of dying but atleast i get to sleep all the time
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:53 PM   #126
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I just noticed this thread. I can't be bothered with reading the last 7 pages to see where it's deviated, so I'll just comment on the OP.

I am not afraid of death. If it's indeed oblivion, then I won't really have anything to worry about because I'll cease to exist. If it's eternal life, well, good to know. Means I can continue to learn and grow, which is essentially the part of existing that is enjoyable.
I have to say, well said. That's pretty much excactly what I was going to post. What is going to happen is going to happen, a second you spend worrying about it is a second you can't get back of happiness.
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Old 11-11-2006, 05:47 PM   #127
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Dying is one of my biggest fears. I just hope that there is an afterlife because if there isn't, we'll just be lying looking at blackness. Not even really looking at it cause we are dead!
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Old 11-12-2006, 10:30 AM   #128
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My fear is just one tiny little thing:

Forgetting and not remembering.
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Old 11-12-2006, 01:02 PM   #129
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Mickey, Are you scared of not being remembered? or not remembering what you now know?
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Old 11-12-2006, 01:13 PM   #130
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If I was to die soon, I would wonder why I couldn't have died sooner. I mean, I live the day not worring what will happen next, but I am compulsive on the issues of clumsiness. I always worry what I will break next, but I am not afraid to die.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:33 PM   #131
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I feel I should say, it is not as if I want to die (although there have been times in my life where that was the case, it does not hold true for the vast majority of the time). I simply do not fear the Reaper.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:58 PM   #132
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I am not afraid of death. In fact, I WANT to die one day when I am old and my life is complete. I have faith that there is something after death because I feel strange connections with my relatives when they die. For instance, when my aunt died years ago, I woke up in the middle of the night and looked at the clock. That was the exact time she died. Not even a month ago, my other aunt died and I had severely uncontrollable shivers right after her time of death (at the time I didn't know that she had died-I found out 20 minutes later). And when I feel like I am losing my way in life, my father (who is dead) visits me in my dreams but that happens only so many years. I would want to die just to have a chance to meet my father again because I was too young to know him in life.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:49 PM   #133
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i was actually thinking of this lately, and im not sure why. i personally am not scared of death. and there are three things that i think might happen.

ONE

we go to hell or heaven, and meet our friends, relatives, or anyone else you know thats dead. You meet them, take back the "your dead" jokes you ever told them in your lifetime, and if your in hell your sure regretting you doubted heaven. this theory is the most accepted theory, as far as i know

TWO

reincarnation. which is lovely, if reincarnation is what we do when we die, then realize this: we will be here when the sun enlarges to a size that will burn the earth, we will be here when the neighbour galaxy andromeda hits us, we might be here for some bigass meteor explosion which could possibly happen anyday, or we could be here in the biggest war mankind has ever faced: global warming. or actual wars. in any case reincarnation is a cool way of thinking of life after death.

THREE

nothing. this might seem simple but its really not. if we die, and theres nothing after, then its not like you sit there in some purgatory staring at black for eternity, theres actually nothing. think of it this way. you werent alive or existing before you were born, you were nothing. this is the same way, the brain you are using to think of this wont be there. it will be nothing, you wont even see black. i have no way of POSSIBLY comprehending what this would be like, because i know that you arent there, you wouldnt be there to see or hear anything, so i have no way of explaining it. the better word is nothing.

So if we go to heaven when we die, then im all for it. If we reincarnate, then its gonna be rough but at least i unknowingly have another chance at having a great life, and if its nothing. then i dont know.

thats my two cents.
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Old 11-24-2006, 11:27 PM   #134
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I've read through the entire thread and I've found a few posts that, if not similar, are really close to that of my own opinions. But first I would like to point out that while most people who fear death, they really just fear the pain that is most often associated with death. While most times moments before death can be relatively painful, there are some ways that death is painless, & people aren't as afraid of that than with the latter. It is our fear of pain that quickly links us to the fear of death.

That aside, I believe FlashStinger when she said that we all affect everyone else in some way or another. Most of the time it's indirectly through someone or something else. However, with everything happening at once, it tends to get mixed up with everything & tends to get unnoticeable after a while. But while it doesn't seem like it makes a difference, you have made the world different than if you didn't do anything, or didn't exist.

My opinion on this topic is that I'd rather not die until I've done my part in this world, & hopefully to help in our advance in life. I would also not want all of my experiences, philosophies, wisdom, knowledge, my failures, & my breakthroughs throughout the years just fade away when I die. I should, like everyone else should, offer all that knowledge to the younger audience who will, undoubtedly, be able to learn at a much faster rate than we are capable of, & make more use of our knowledge than we will with our aged 60-80 year old bodies. That is if we were to live that long. This is really what schools, high schools, & other learning mediums try to do, but some of the students are unwilling, or just unmotivated, enough to learn what they have to offer.

I may be getting a little side-tracked, so I'll get back on topic. I feel that the ultimate reason people fear death is they feel that they haven't done anything, or not enough, & that dying now will leave their life unfulfilled. Just imagine that you've just finished college and you are getting ready to start your great career as a physician. However, just a few days later, you've gotten into a car accident and you didn't survive it. All those years of acing tests, honour roles; All your knowledge you've earned in the 20+ years you've been alive had been lost. There's nothing left of it. I think this is what people are most fearful of.

As for the actual death process, there isn't really much you can explain. Your brain is what keeps you alive, & your body is what keeps your brain alive. Your brain needs a constant supply of energy to keep everything, your thoughts, your memory, everything intact. If it so happens that the constant supply of energy stops, within five minutes, your brain will suffer minor brain damage, meaning that you may lose some of your memories or thoughts even if the supply of energy manages to start again. After ten minutes your brain will suffer extensive damage & you will not be able to be brought back. The idea of nothingness does not exist. You will just cease to function.

Shashakiro Made a REALLY good post in page three, so I'll bring it back up, seeing that people aren't going to read every single post in this thread.

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Seeing how I have no logical answer or any theories that has evidence going for it, all I can say is:

Discuss.

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Old 12-4-2006, 02:26 AM   #135
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I've been thinking about this recently, and come to this conclusion: the only thing that really makes any sense, at least to me, is reincarnation.

Why is this? Because, quite simply, we don't experience time when we aren't conscious. When you wake up from a dreamless sleep, you haven't got a clue how much time has passed if you don't have any way of figuring it out otherwise. 20 years is the same thing as an hour when you aren't conscious--it's all zero.

Also, there is some combination of the fundamental building blocks of nature that causes consciousness. Nothing else makes sense to me. When we are made unconscious for any reason, our consciousness can't manifest itself, and we don't feel time. So, I believe that after we die, whatever building blocks form our consciousness simply float around until they reform that consciousness, and it has a vessel that can experience time--in other words, the consciousness will be reincarnated. Assuming time is infinite, and this has a greater than zero chance of happening, it WILL happen--that consciousness will find its way into a situation where it can feel time. And it makes no sense for time to end or for there to be a zero chance of the consciousness forming, because that would create a situation that is mathematical nonsense -- you would experience zero time an infinity of times, which is 0^infinity, a nonsense expression without meaning. I don't think that this is the way the universe works, myself. At least, I hope it's not.

Which is why the only thing that makes sense to me is reincarnation. Reincarnation on Earth? Doubtful. But reincarnation somewhere, at some time, which you would experience immediately after death even though it was an astronomical number of years later? I don't see why not.
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Old 12-4-2006, 08:33 AM   #136
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Think about if there is an afterlife, in the bilbical sense. Existing for ETERNITY. FOREVER. How strange would that be, knowing that you would exist forever. But think about it. Everything we do is based on the fact that nothing happens forever. Does that mean if we have a new existance in this so called afterlife, we will eventually have to die there too? So will we forever be trapped in a cycle of living and dying. But won't then this cycle have to be broken, because nothing can exist forever? Could this mean we could be stuck in an infinite amount of existences, but these are also part of an infinite yet terminating part of another larger existence? I know these terms are contradictory, but it boggles the mind thinking about the obscene and incomprehensible repeating cycle of existences. But then also, will these existences be different so it becomes impossible to ever comprehend the meaning of life? These are the questions that I developed while contemplating death, which i end up doing a lot because i am an insomniac, giving me lots of time to do nothing. This might make my questions invalid, but thinking about them in a non-exhausted state gets me to the same place.
I belive when you get to ertenity it will make sense as our souls are no longer in a dimension where it cant make sense.

I belive there is a heaven and a hell and somehow you end up in one or the other. If im right then that may be a scary thought for some people.

I dont fear the process of dying or death because I look fowaqrd to heaven. The pain envolved in dying I think is overfeared as I think that the bodies senses will dull down.

Edit: ApocalypseAp- You dont spend eternitity in this universe, you spend it in hell/heaven.

MarKniaC- That generalisation about "spirtual people" being phsicologically is pretty misinformed.
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Old 12-4-2006, 10:58 AM   #137
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Well we will never know what exactly happens in the afterlife. We could possibly end up living on forever through reincarnation and all and lose all of our memories in our new lives. It's a very sad thought to think that you'd forget about everything in the knew lives of reincarnation. Losing memories of our love, our families, our friends, everything. You could just die and that's it, you end up floating around in nothingness for all eternity. But you shouldn't really think about these things way too much. You should just live your lives to the fullest and enjoy your life.

I used to be afraid of death, every since my brother brought up the whole idea of my father dying. It really scared me that he would be gone soon forever. But later on I just realised that it's just part of life.
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Old 12-4-2006, 12:47 PM   #138
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You know, I was playing Trauma Center: Under The Knife last night, and the thought of death hit me really hard. I know that sounds weird, but the ending hits on some really thought-provoking points. We create medicine, create undying nations, defy the natural process of nature... but I'm getting beside the point.

It's really scary, for me at least, to think this is all that I get. And no matter how hard I try, I can't convince myself beyond a doubt that there's life after death. I mean, just about a quarter of my life, if I do live a full life, is practically over. Of course, we'll have all sorts of experiences that build up who we are, how we feel about ourselves, and determine if we have a "good life" or "bad life"... to what ends? We rot in the ground for all eternity.

It's really frustrating for me. If I didn't know, then I wouldn't be here. Of course life is a natural process that leads to death, but my consciousness just perpetuates the thought that death is an inevitable, horrible end. I am, but at some point I will not be. I know I'm talking in circles now. I'm not sure how to really express my thoughts. perhaps it's something that can only be felt. I was a bit tormented by the whole thing last night, anyway.
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Death?

Yeah, I don't fear it. I just fear becoming like my mother. And I don't trust other people easily with my hair. Hairdressers are the exception.
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Doesnt really scare me because ive accepted the fct that we all die at one point in time and that we cant stop it so enjoy life to its fullest now and dont worry when it comes because eventually it does come.
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