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Old 04-11-2006, 08:12 PM   #21
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Sorry for being offtopic here, but I honestly don't believe in space-time. Time's not really much of a dimension, it's more like the rate at which energy effects an object, or something like that. But w/e.

When you die, you probably just stop existing. It really wouldn't matter to you, since you wouldn't think about it. I like the comparison to sleep. I like to hope, at least, that when you die... ****, I can't word this without sounding like something I don't mean. =\
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:37 PM   #22
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On occcasion this topic has left me restless for hours. By far the most frightening aspect of death is the possibility of a "negavite afterlife". Sure it may be unlikely. Personally, my thoughts on afterlife possibilities will likely never be fully developed. But the fear still exists. Religious beliefs aside, I fear the possibility of an ultimate evil figure having the ability to take complete control over me/everyone for eternity ("hell").

Here are some of the things that would be pretty nasty:

- Being stuffed into a small box for eternity (like in Kill Bill 2 except there is no death or getting out). Imagine even your first year in there. Hopelessness. And after a year you know you have a million more and you're still not any closer to getting out of there. And that doesn't even account for possibilities of pain. Imagine the box scenario, but add exceptionally bad pain in a different random body part each day. Or every body part every day.

- Having the people you love and care about (or copies or doubles of them that look/act like them) involved. Put them in a room and make you watch them from another room so that you can see/hear them but they can't see/hear you. Now put a double of YOU in the room with your family/friends and have your double say mean and hateful things to them for an extended period. Variant: have the doubles of your family interact with you, except have them hate you uncontrolably, with all other parts of their personalities/memories being normal.

If I could play a gambling game in which you have a .000000001 chance of either of the above things happening, but a .99999999 chance of winning $50 billion, I wouldn't do it.
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I think that killing then bringing the person back to life seems like a good idea. Also you then have problem of finding someone willing to sign up for it.
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Sorry for being offtopic here, but I honestly don't believe in space-time. Time's not really much of a dimension, it's more like the rate at which energy effects an object, or something like that. But w/e.

When you die, you probably just stop existing. It really wouldn't matter to you, since you wouldn't think about it. I like the comparison to sleep. I like to hope, at least, that when you die... ****, I can't word this without sounding like something I don't mean. =\
You don't believe in space time? What the ****. LMAO

Well then I mean, I guess there is no space and events don't pass within it. >_<!!!!!!!!!

All dimensions are dependant on time. Time is not a dimension, but the other 3 dimensions would not exist without time and thus all space exists within time. Meaning, as part of the math, it is a dimension, but it isn't a spatial dimension.


And I suppose death is like being put to sleep and never waking up. But you can experience being put to sleep. You come out of it, it is an experience. Death just isn't something you can experience, making it pretty unique.
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Death used to scare me a lot, but then, I thought, well, were you there before being born?

Death is, essentially the same thing as before you were born, unless there is an afterlife. Assuming there is no afterlife, it should be like not being alive. Were you terrified ever because of what you felt before you were born? You don't remember it, and you know what? It's the exact same as being dead.

It's not like being in a pitch black, because you cannot see black, you cannot see anything. That is what scared me the most, because a human being cannot imagine seeing,well, nothing. seeing black ISN'T seeing nothing. Seeing nothing is something we just can't imagine, so it scares people. I've basically gotten over the fear though, so it is no problem as of now.

PS: For those of you who fear people you love dying, I've had 3 great grandparents ,a very close friend of the family, and an uncle die. I dunno, this will sound very very cruel and mean, but it doesn't scare me as much anymore, and I'm not as worried, and it sucks, because my grandma is most likely going to die soon.
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:13 PM   #26
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Drummer, you're pretty pessimistic. Don't dwell on those things, rofl.

Reach, I didn't say I don't think time exists, I just mean that I don't believe it's a dimension, but only a property of the energy, like gravity is for matter.

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You said, and anyone could quote you on it, that you dont' believe in space-time. Get your message straight, kk? If space exists, and time exists, you believe in space-time. It is all around you.

But in that case, you don't have to believe any longer, because time is not spatial dimension.
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Doesn't scare me in the least bit. If there is a hell, under my religion I will not be there for eternity but I might spend some time in there. If there is no hell and we just stop existing, then I won't *feel* myself not existing or be able to consciously get terrified at the concept of not being alive, because there will be no thought and that would simply be the end. Eventually someone will get born, and that person will experience life first-hand. It's not reincarnation, but a cycle in which *someone* will get born and in essence, that someone is every single person not alive.
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When I am thinking about it, it scares the hell out of me.
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Think about if there is an afterlife, in the bilbical sense. Existing for ETERNITY. FOREVER. How strange would that be, knowing that you would exist forever. But think about it. Everything we do is based on the fact that nothing happens forever. Does that mean if we have a new existance in this so called afterlife, we will eventually have to die there too? So will we forever be trapped in a cycle of living and dying. But won't then this cycle have to be broken, because nothing can exist forever? Could this mean we could be stuck in an infinite amount of existences, but these are also part of an infinite yet terminating part of another larger existence? I know these terms are contradictory, but it boggles the mind thinking about the obscene and incomprehensible repeating cycle of existences. But then also, will these existences be different so it becomes impossible to ever comprehend the meaning of life? These are the questions that I developed while contemplating death, which i end up doing a lot because i am an insomniac, giving me lots of time to do nothing. This might make my questions invalid, but thinking about them in a non-exhausted state gets me to the same place.
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I don't believe in people who say they aren't afraid of death.

I think if you're afraid of anything (spiders, clowns, etc) you must be afraid of death. Why are people afraid of those things? Because they think that [whatever they're afraid of] is going to kill them. Killing = death. See my connection? I'm scared of spiders because I think if one bites me i'll die. People who are afraid of spiders for other reasons have no reason to fear them--they're just being stupid.
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Think about if there is an afterlife, in the bilbical sense. Existing for ETERNITY. FOREVER. How strange would that be, knowing that you would exist forever. But think about it. Everything we do is based on the fact that nothing happens forever. Does that mean if we have a new existance in this so called afterlife, we will eventually have to die there too? So will we forever be trapped in a cycle of living and dying. But won't then this cycle have to be broken, because nothing can exist forever? Could this mean we could be stuck in an infinite amount of existences, but these are also part of an infinite yet terminating part of another larger existence? I know these terms are contradictory, but it boggles the mind thinking about the obscene and incomprehensible repeating cycle of existences. But then also, will these existences be different so it becomes impossible to ever comprehend the meaning of life? These are the questions that I developed while contemplating death, which i end up doing a lot because i am an insomniac, giving me lots of time to do nothing. This might make my questions invalid, but thinking about them in a non-exhausted state gets me to the same place.
You did raise a few good points throughout that. I'd like to specifically address the first one.

Eternity is like the "time" version of the concept of infinity. It's impossible to comprehend, yet people continue to try. It's the one thing, I think, which mankind will never figure out. Infinity, when you think about it, is the missing link to most things which we don't understand: God, the universe's expanses, death, eternity...

But I'm getting off my point. We may not understand eternity, but people try to do so quite often whenever they discuss the topic of death. It's because of that unreasonable fear of the unknown that death is as disturbing a thought for some as it is. At least, I think. My English teacher gave this story as an example of "eternity" and how it can't be comprehended...

Assume Hitler went before God at the end of his life. He had a choice. He could either suffer 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 years of pain for each Jew he killed and afterwards be let into Heaven, or go directly to Hell. Now, 6 million times that number is huge. But, as long as that is, Hell is still longer. It never ends.

I'm not saying that Heaven or Hell does or does not exist, but you see why the idea of infinity is probably impossible to understand entirely, I hope.
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I'm sorry but "death" itself doesn't scare me. It's getting there, the pain and suffering part, assuming that's how you go of course. My biggest fear about the whole thing is my regrets of not telling people how I really feel about them. It's like leaving the most important thing you could ever possibly do incomplete.

I've had dreams where I die, execution by gun point, and I'm not so much worried about dying, I just feel horrible because I know that I'll never get to see the people that I care for and tell them how I truly feel about them. So I guess in one sense I am scared of death, but I am not scared of the unknown or [i]afterlife[/u].
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what if there was just never anything to begin with. no universe or big bang or anything before that or before that. Just nothing at all ever. Nothing. Thats something I imagine.
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I get the feeling that I'm the only person that is as scared as death as much as I am. Well, not so much death as what comes afterwards. Basically, 2 things could happen. Either we go on living forever (heaven, hell, reincarnation, whatever) or we die and are dead and there's nothing. The problem for me is not the uncertainty of whether it will be eternity or completely nothing, but the fact that both of those outcomes scare me ****less.

Why? Probably because I can't imagine either of them. I mean, when I try to imagine nothing I just close my eyes and see black and somewhere in my head I think "k, that's nothing, just black." But nothing wouldn't even be that. It'd be...NOTHING. I can't imagine just not even existing anymore. It scares me the most.

Eternity though, that still scares me. Most people hear eternity and think "oh gee that'd be nice" but who actually sits and tries to think about it? Maybe I'm just weird but the thought of living forever and never stopping scares me. I mean, it seems like the thing to do, but there never being an end to my life is just weird. It seems like it should end but I don't want it to.

Mostly, I just wanna know if there's anybody else who thinks like I do. Is anybody else scared of eternity and nothingness?
I have those exact thoughts.
And in the bible it says that in heaven all you do is praise God.
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Years and years of praise praise praise?!
I'm not sure if I like that. It's already been over 2000 years. And they've been doing it.
But I'm not sure.
But the thought of nothingness scares me.
You are nothing.
You are nowhere.
You can't see anything.
GAH!
And the bible says that hell is so bad, the devil doesn't even want to be there.

So for me,
I'm screwed each road I take.
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If it was eternity, I wouldn't be scared. Like EB says, if you stop and think hard about it, the fact itself being FOREVER is ****ing scary.
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Death scares me alot. Id like to be one of those people who say live every day as its your last, but im not. Not by a long shot. I dont want to even think the next day being my last. I just shudder at the fact that your gone, no thinking, you dont know your dead, your just dead. Not coming back. Its freaks me out. Just the pure nothingness.
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Well I have full belief in life being after death.
What about psychics? Mediums providing a voice box for your and someone who past?, And the people who like to stand in your doorway...
Have you ever walked around and you just felt like someone is behind you...it wasn't a strong feeling but you knew eyes were just back there...
TADA!!!! you've found your guardian angels.
Don't get me wrong alot of people think guardians angels are other people who've passed on, but the truth is that they're a different phylum. It's like how a cat is seperate from a dog.
Guardian angels will protect you FOREVER...that means (and I don't mean to make them property in a demeaning way.)they are YOURS. Just the same way your mother is only YOUR mother.
I don't mean to squash anyone's beliefs here but the devil doesn't really exist, simply positive and negative energy.
That's why throwing a item that's absorbed negative energy from the past will make your house more...positive.
and uh....No I'm not scared of death. At all! I just want to accomplish more before I die and I don't want to leave my family either...
and reminding me someone said you wouldn't be able to talk to your family. That's not true you'll be able to leave your family messages such as
sending butterflies, turning things around, flipping lights on and off, moving chairs, rocking chairs, making smells, (Cooking, perfume etc) and you can even send items you meant to send them before.
When you die you'll have to go through some kindve tunnel or window or even your casket so make sure you go through or you'll be stuck.
That's as much as I can say right now
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Well I have full belief in life being after death.
What about psychics? Mediums providing a voice box for your and someone who past?, And the people who like to stand in your doorway...
Have you ever walked around and you just felt like someone is behind you...it wasn't a strong feeling but you knew eyes were just back there...
TADA!!!! you've found your guardian angels.
Don't get me wrong alot of people think guardians angels are other people who've passed on, but the truth is that they're a different phylum. It's like how a cat is seperate from a dog.
Guardian angels will protect you FOREVER...that means (and I don't mean to make them property in a demeaning way.)they are YOURS. Just the same way your mother is only YOUR mother.
I don't mean to squash anyone's beliefs here but the devil doesn't really exist, simply positive and negative energy.
That's why throwing a item that's absorbed negative energy from the past will make your house more...positive.
and uh....No I'm not scared of death. At all! I just want to accomplish more before I die and I don't want to leave my family either...
and reminding me someone said you wouldn't be able to talk to your family. That's not true you'll be able to leave your family messages such as
sending butterflies, turning things around, flipping lights on and off, moving chairs, rocking chairs, making smells, (Cooking, perfume etc) and you can even send items you meant to send them before.
When you die you'll have to go through some kindve tunnel or window or even your casket so make sure you go through or you'll be stuck.
That's as much as I can say right now
You hold a lot of the ideas that I do. At least, it seems that way. While I'm sure the intelligent post is appreciated, you do assume quite a bit here. You can't be factually sure of most of the things you outlined there, and I know there are at least several people on this board who will disagree with you. Lights coming on or going off could be a bad circuit. Butterflies come out of nowhere anyway. Things move? Maybe there's a draft. Point is, some things can have more than one cause...
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