Old 03-30-2006, 11:22 PM   #41
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All they say its a win win situation for them. But Just seems stupid right? I will never understand it, To crazy for any kind of logic. Someone should just lock this cause it sux that bad.
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:24 PM   #42
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Izzy, it actually seems that there is some discussion going on that isn't you flaming people for their beliefs. I'm enjoying watching the conversation that's coming up.
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:58 PM   #43
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the thing with all this god business is that the only way to prove the he does or doesn't exist is to die. But the problem with that is your dead and you can't tell everyone what's happening
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I will never understand why if god wants us to be faithful. Why doesnt he just tell me =( He can do that right? hes god.
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what happens if christianty is wrong and scientology is right
If you want to look at that way then eople who beleive in and worship God have nothing to fear. If Cristianity is right then the atheistsare screwd, if scientologists are right then christians will be fine.

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Thats what i said though. I still think that is a pretty retarded concept. And out of every possibly religion you can come up with in your head there is a very minimal chance chritianity is the right one.

And every christians pride would be pretty shot at the point and there would probably be mass suicide. Which i would laugh at. And then later on i wouldnt because there would be no one to work at places.
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I will never understand why if god wants us to be faithful. Why doesnt he just tell me =( He can do that right? hes god.
But are you listening? Thats the question.

Out of all the concepts atheism has a very miniscule chance of being correct either. So it just seems like we just can't think of anything easily proven.

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I dont consider myself part of an organized group. I just am. No one has the same believes. Cause then no one would be diffrent. So the very maximum the 1 person that is right wins? but who cares. I dont see the point in worrying about my after life while i have things to do in my real life.
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I will never understand why if god wants us to be faithful. Why doesnt he just tell me =(
Because then it wouldnt be called faith. Geezzzz. God does all kinds of crazy-ass things...like creating the tree of knowledge and then telling us "hey, dont eat the fruit from that tree...really, dont. No, I'm not kidding." Then when Adam and Eve did eat the fruit God acts all surprised,

"What the f*ck man? Not cool. I done told you not to eat from that tree man. Sh*t, now I gotta kick your broke-ass out of Eden. Don't give me none o' that sh*t about how unfair and unreasonable I am being. I'm God! I dont need a reason to do the sh*t I do homeboy. Yeah, it may not make much sense to you, like you could understand my thoughts...psha! Get out...and dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. Motherf*ckers all up in my sh*t eatin' my sh*t and sh*t...

B*tch! Why ain't you left yet? Oh no, I am not having this coversation wit you. Shut your sh*t trap Eve. Adam, control yo' women. Sh*t, she be all makin' you her b*tch or something. Oh hell naw. Lilth was ten times the women Eve'll ever be. What? You didnt tell Eve about Lilth yet, Adam? Shame on your homeboy. Bitch, get the f*ck out of my garden....tramplin' all over my lilacs, sh*t. ***** please."

As for that argument that God exists. It just sounds like a bunch of double talk aimed to confuse people.
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Wow faith really is worse then i expected. Oh its faith because i believe in something that makes no sense but ther eis no way to disprove it so its right. Thats a good way of thinking. And i guess god would have had to talk to every other planet ever that had life. In lanugages that wernt created yet.
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i read the conversation on the LWS boards and i didn't understand half of it, but it certainly seems that guy has an answer for everything that they throw at him.
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Jewp, I think the tree of knoweldege was more about trust than anything else. He's a supreme being, and puts this tree here.

GOD: Don't eat from this tree.
ADAM: Why not?
GOD: Do you trust me?
ADAM: What?
GOD: DO YOU TRUST ME?
ADAM: Of course!
GOD: Then don't eat the fruit.
(Pan over to EVE, already eating the fruit)
ADAM: Godammit.
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You dont think God knew we were going to eat from the tree? I think God deserves a little more credit than that.
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according to sumerian artifacts, god is an alien.
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And every christians pride would be pretty shot at the point and there would probably be mass suicide. Which i would laugh at. And then later on i wouldnt because there would be no one to work at places.
In the bible it's said if you commit suicide you go to hell. but then that still proves that God exists. Becuase in a way people who are Satanist are still basically christian. if you accept Satan the you accept christianity as a relgion becuase with out it there would be no Satan.
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according to sumerian artifacts, god is an alien.
I could see god being a Alien. That would explain alot of ****
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I don't have the time to learn about this S5 logic system.

"Therefore, it is possibly necessary that God exists"
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"it is necessary that God exists (because it is possible that He does)"

It is possible that 99legged pink flying elephants that can spew molten lava out of their trunks, have black tusks that NEVER go dull, and can travel freely through space with their hummingbird sized wings.

It is necessary that these things exist, because it is possible that they do.
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Ehh Hr2, I get what you're saying. But here are his reasons why yours can't fit into the model.

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To convince ourselves that this is true, we can construct an argument ad reductio. Suppose for the sake of argument that it were possible for a being to be supreme but not necessary. And suppose that it were possible for a being to be necessary but not supreme. Since a necessary being must (by definition) exist in all possible worlds, then that would mean that there is at least one world in which there exists a being that is supreme but NOT necessary. Thus, he is not supreme at all, because there is a necessary being in his world. Since we've reached a contradiction, the reductio premise must be false. There is one and only one Supreme Being.

So we may use "necessary" as the logical equivalent of "supreme". And we may use "existence" as the ontological equivalent of "being".
However, the assumptions he makes are impossible to prove, as the only base for it is faith.
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People saw the parting of the Red Sea, but they were still unbeliveing.

People saw the miracles of Jesus but still were unbelieving.

Point being if you saw a sign, that wouldn't necessarily change your views anyway.
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