Old 03-26-2006, 06:35 PM   #21
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If you have nothing to contribute to this thread, you can leave. You're just being antagonistic and trying to get someone upset with your anti-religious tripe. It speaks volumes to your maturity.

PS: I don't remember Dubya going to trial.

Not that I'm happy with him right now. Stupid financial aid cuts.
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If you have nothing to contribute to this thread, you can leave. You're just being antagonistic and trying to get someone upset with your anti-religious tripe. It speaks volumes to your maturity.

PS: I don't remember Dubya going to trial.

Not that I'm happy with him right now. Stupid financial aid cuts.
You try and act mature but you are just pathetic. What kind of loser just ignores why their ideas wrong. Thats just total denial. So i can only contribute by agreeing with you? Thats like those stupid peta moron forums. You go their and explain why their ideas dont make any damn sense and they just delete your posts. And you cant just say things about how my ideas make me imature without saying anything else. You know what? your immature. **** you.
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Wait, why are my ideas wrong?

If you care to have an intelligent conversation about my beliefs versus your beliefs, I'd be more than willing to humor you.

Instead, you call anyone who believes the Bible "brainwashed", and then you throw a tantrum when I call you immature.

You're not helping yourself.
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Why do you think im having a tantrum? this thread means less to me then any random rock i could find. I dont need to help myself. But you sure do.
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Then stop posting here. If I'm wrong and this means nothing to you, stop wasting your precious time.

And I'd definitely call this:

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You try and act mature but you are just pathetic. What kind of loser just ignores why their ideas wrong. Thats just total denial. So i can only contribute by agreeing with you? Thats like those stupid peta moron forums. You go their and explain why their ideas dont make any damn sense and they just delete your posts. And you cant just say things about how my ideas make me imature without saying anything else. You know what? your immature. **** you.
a tantrum.

Now, I've already told you I'm more than willing to have a rational conversation with you about why you hate religion so much, but if you're going to sit back and tell me I'm an idiot and to **** off, I'd much rather you just take your wit back to the Garbage Bin.
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I doubt you could have an intelligent conversation about religion anyways. Go ahead and try. I really want to know why you automaticly assume the bible is true. Enlighten me.
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  1. I find it just a little ironic that people are calling religious discrimination racism... cuz it's racist to presume that race determines religion.
  2. Ouch, Panda. I'm an atheist, but I ain't no bandwagon-hopper. I stopped believing in God as soon as I realized, on my own, that only a few of the things I was hearing made much sense. I tend to regard a lot of the teachings of most religions, especially christianity, as good guidelines for living... but when I read the Bible I just laugh at the idea of following it devoutly today: Imagine treating disease by shutting the diseased up for three weeks and then pronouncing him unclean (Leviticus, with the law concerning leprosy). I won't go into other reasons why each religion in its complete form is silly...
  3. Silly though the religions may be, I don't find that all their believers are brrainwashed. Many people follow a religion because it gives them hope. False? Maybe, maybe not. I may find my life difficult to deal with for not following a religion later in life. Most religions dictate a fairly clear-cut way to act and adjudicate morality (WWJD?). Without this, I rely on my own logic for all my decisions. Shouldn't be a problem, but at the least it could make life a little less secure and more stressful.
  4. &@Panda: Wait a second, I thought you lived in Bald Knob, AR. Oh noes~
  5. lol accusations =\= conviction
  6. Wow, this list function is hella tite.
  7. And Izzy, you have indeed been pwnx't, so please either learn to spell and create arguments rather than blatant assertions, or be done with this thread, because your comments have really become less than conducive to the debate (lol, syntax).
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You cant just agree with me and then disagree with me. Im glad you actually though things threw about what those damn preists were telling you but then you just sit there and not try to explain the logical outlook on life. Yes i know the bible teaches morals and whatever but then people start to live by it and thats probably not even waht the point was.

I showed my points and all people do is just try and say your arguement is stupid and you have bad spelling. Pwned nothing. This girl cant give an arguement worth a damn.
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Well, thank you for your hostility.

I'll thank you not to assume that just because I follow the Bible and believe in God that I never questioned my faith. Most everyone goes through trials of faith in their life, often more than once. I did. If you were born into any religion, obviously you did too, and you found different answers than I did.

If you have questions, ask them. I will do my very best to answer them. I answered your statement, let's continue.
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[list=1][*]I find it just a little ironic that people are calling religious discrimination racism... cuz it's racist to presume that race determines religion.[*]Ouch, Panda. I'm an atheist, but I ain't no bandwagon-hopper. I stopped believing in God as soon as I realized, on my own, that only a few of the things I was hearing made much sense. I tend to regard a lot of the teachings of most religions, especially christianity, as good guidelines for living... but when I read the Bible I just laugh at the idea of following it devoutly today: Imagine treating disease by shutting the diseased up for three weeks and then pronouncing him unclean (Leviticus, with the law concerning leprosy). I won't go into other reasons why each religion in its complete form is silly...
Well, that was my own little bit of immaturity. One of my closest friends is atheist (I think?) and not because it was the cool thing to do in high school, but because he can't find good reason to believe in a God, and I'm cool with that. He's cool with me.
PS: Please don't point out something like treatments for medical conditions as a reason for finding the Bible silly. I realize that it isn't your only reason, but you must be aware that certain medical technologies did not exist in those times. For a long time, people believed that they fell ill because they had displeased God -- and they had a long list of plagues to prove them right. As for shutting off the "unclean" from others, they knew these diseases were contagious, and at the time uncurable, so lepers had to be isolated from those not afflicted.
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[*]Silly though the religions may be, I don't find that all their believers are brrainwashed. Many people follow a religion because it gives them hope. False? Maybe, maybe not. I may find my life difficult to deal with for not following a religion later in life. Most religions dictate a fairly clear-cut way to act and adjudicate morality (WWJD?). Without this, I rely on my own logic for all my decisions. Shouldn't be a problem, but at the least it could make life a little less secure and more stressful.[*]&@Panda: Wait a second, I thought you lived in Bald Knob, AR. Oh noes~
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[*]lol accusations =\= conviction[*]Wow, this list function is hella tite.[*]And Izzy, you have indeed been pwnx't, so please either learn to spell and create arguments rather than blatant assertions, or be done with this thread, because your comments have really become less than conducive to the debate (lol, syntax).
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Edit: I mutilated your list. Oops.
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That just showed how clueless they were back then. Anything they couldnt explain they blammed on magic. Which is why you cant really trust anything they say as the truth. Along time ago it used to be a sin to beleave the sun was the center of the universe. The church pretty much disowned you if you thought diffrent from them. But later it was proven and they changed their beleifs.
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But than you would half to be catholic's but they are stupid since half of the bible has been disproven anyways.
Boom! Instant loss of credibility. It's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about, so why continue?

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Not saying there cant be some super natural being that created us all but the bible is a man made book and doesnt even have anything to do with a god.
Add to above statement. Do you honestly know a thing about Christianity?

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Why can't you accept that you don't know if you're right or not?

With such a pisspoor understanding of what you're arguing about, it sure seems that it's you who can't form a worthwhile argument.

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How about you try at least making an arguement instead of saying i dont have one and that i dont know anything about it.

How should i explain why its wrong more then just that. 2+2=5 is just as wrong.
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I doubt you could have an intelligent conversation about religion anyways.
I just rofled at the irony. Izzys view on religion: "ur dum so die" You just need to get over it man.
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Dont put words into my mouth man. Your being less contributive then me at this point.
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How about you try at least making an arguement instead of saying i dont have one and that i dont know anything about it.
Likewise.

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Technically, one cannot simply state to a child that two plus two does not equal five without first explaining to the child the quantity represented by "two," "five," and "four," the correct sum of two and two. Simply telling a child, "2+2=4 because that's the way things are," is encouraging the child to just accept what he is told. While it is evident to you and me that 2+2 =/= 5, it is not so obvious to a five- or six-year-old.

Why is this relevant, you ask? The same applies to critical thinking. One cannot simply make argumentative statements without evidence one believes to be true to back up said statements. You have not really presented any debateable statements because everything you say is clouded by your blatant hatred of religion. You told me that my ideas were wrong, but failed to explain why, while I could present a myriad of statements to show you that I am perfectly correct in what I believe.

Now, my goal is not to convert an unbeliever. I could type until I developed carpal tunnel syndrome and still have no success with you. My goal is to carry out an intelligent conversation with you about why I believe what I believe, and why you believe what you believe, but you're not giving me that opportunity. Grandiagod basically summed up everything you've contributed to this thread and yet you CONTINUE to post on the attack.
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Izzy, I don't understand why you have such a strong knee-jerk reaction to any of this. There was another thread where you got all worked up over this.

You can't go up to somebody and tell them they are wrong, then ask them to explain how they are right.
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Why? Cause i really want to know why people defend the bible. I really want someone to give me a good explanation. Its not me that needs in an explanation cause im not the one making stuff up. Like if someone comes up to you and tells you there is a dieing guy in the other room. Hes the one that needs to proove that not the other person.

And children do accept what they are told. That is the only reason people have all these crazy religions. Cause they force their children into it.
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Izzy you got to listen to what people are saying that's how you learn.
You don't have do be so defensive if someone thinks your ideas were wrong, you got to respect the fact that they are also interested to share their ideas about this topic. If someone proves you wrong, so what? Don't deny it.

I just wanted to say that.
I have nothing to say about the christian religion since i am not one.
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