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Old 02-22-2006, 05:15 PM   #81
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Default Re: This isnt intellectualism.

This topic reminds me of my lit tests.

They are 100% interpretation multiple choice.

People interpret things differently, but this test gets rid of that. I'm given four choices of what this symbolizes, and none of them are what I think.

You make me feel that you are trying to get us to discuss this "right" interpretation, when interpretation is just that. It's an individual thing, and cannot be tested. Saying there is a right interpretation is saying interpretation is useless. You make it sound like you want us to make a topic about one of those authors and discuss exactly what you do, because you have these "right" interpretations, and are trying to make us all think the same thing. Even a metaphor, which you were talking about, can be taken in different ways. And maybe, if you take it in a different way, it won't be as amazing as you think it is.
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:20 PM   #82
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My official definition of critical thinking: Anything that can be seriously discussed.

End of definition.
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:28 PM   #83
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Allright, this has all degenerated into the same, and I only have three things to say:

1. Read my second post. It's on page two. I clearly stated the books do not matter. They were merely a hook: something other people in like mindsets may have read. Alot more people have Vonnegut in common than have FFR in common, and better people too. Many of you chose to pounce on that point, and ignore everything else. Just because you omit an accusation, it does not render it effete.

2. Tasselfoot, I apologize. I did not reply to you because you made sense. I agreed with you, and instead of singling you out, which would make you a target too, I just did not comment. I'm sorry, that really wasn't a way to treat someone who attempted to defend me.

3. This was not a typical "first post". It was an attack that I would have made, inured to the forums or not. I am not trying to become part of your community, I am not trying to join in to the burlesque I see here. I was making a statement, and looking for an intelligent response. This, I only got from a few. Tasselfoot, for one, who I neglected before. And a few others just dropped names, which mean nothing. This is the internet: Wikipedia can conjure up thousands of names to drop.

Edit: To Benny1:

Let the vocabulary lie. I read perhaps a book every two days. This sort of language comes naturally to me: I don't know if it was you who said it, but I remember I used to agree with that quote about using simple words. However, long words are often used because they mean the same as a simple one, just with added connotations. I love the flow of words.

Now... if I had used simpler words for the forums, that would be making an effort to impress you guys, something akin to baby-talking to a toddler. Do you really want that?

Last, but not least, I never said there was any "right" way to take a metaphor. The most "right" way, I suppose, would be the way the author meant it, but within the boundaries of language, who are we to judge? I merely said the metaphors, no definition involved, were beautiful. The same basis as listening to a song, and loving it, but hating the lyrics. Or a song without lyrics that can evoke any feeling at all.

I can see where you are coming from, Benny, but it seems you've had too many encounters with pseudo-intellectuals before, which I admit, it's hard to tell me apart from after two posts on a forum. What comes naturally to me, others choke out, yes? Just don't imbue me with their properties, with attributes I have not exhibited, yet. Ok?
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:34 PM   #84
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Default Re: This isnt intellectualism.

So, uh, yes, this forum isn't for intellectualism or for intellectuals. It's for intelligence and discussing intelligent topics intelligently.

You're right... but I don't see why your point matters, since the point of the forum is to be intelligent, not intellectual.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:06 PM   #85
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Default Re: This isnt intellectualism.

What does "solipsistic" mean? I understand that saying that can make me seem less intelligent by others standards, but I don't know what it means exactaly.

And one of the first things he says is that in CT we discuss unimportant problems and misunderstood puzzles. What I don't understand is how discussing world problems and current events makes us seem less intelligent than we really are. And besdes, would'nt it be how we respond to the topic not the actual topic itself?
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Default Re: This isnt intellectualism.

This guy is funny.

He continues to go out of his way to show off his vocabulary. Please, regnier, continue posting here and even start posting other places in the forum. Your overuse of nonstandard words is hilarious.

Really though, you need to learn to play to your audience. You'd be a terrible writer if you keep that up.

Then again, if you were to write, it'd probably intellectual penis battler books like those mentioned before.
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Who and what you've read show nothing of true intellect, regnier. If it hadn't been for that list, I might have believed that you weren't just pretentious.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:17 PM   #88
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Default Re: This isnt intellectualism.

I can understand exactly where you do come from, and I do know way too many pseudo-intelluctuals, I don't want to come across as think you are on eof them, because the phoneys I know are just horrible. Also, the only post of yours I minded the writing in was the first one. I understand exactly what you are going for, but you went overboard, as reach said.

Afrobean, contribute to the thread or stop complaing because the word degenerate is too complex for you.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:35 PM   #89
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Afrobean: www.dictionary.com/www.wikipedia.org . And the only e-penis here is that tiny one you're swinging about, missing me as well as everyone else.

Tasuke: Asking what a word means does not make you less intelligent. The average person knows 20 000 word groups, and there are something like 70 000 in all. Don't quote me on that. In a way, asking for answers makes you more intelligent.

It just makes you lazy, since you're on the internet, and a million sites could identify it for you. Anyway: Solipsism, to simplify things, is the belief that you are the only real person/thing existant.

To all: My real problem with this "Critical Thinking" forum is the critical thinking. It reminds me of goths dressing "to be different." When really, it's just the other side of mainstream, parroting the thoughts you've been taught to think. See what I mean, anybody?
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:51 PM   #90
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No, not at all... it's a place for the discussion of intelligent topics intelligently. It doesn't matter who is posting in the forum or how they act in other forums or how intellectual they are as long as they can intelligently support their points.

Plus it's a largely dead forum. Hasn't been a lively debate in here in ages.
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:03 PM   #91
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I think I grasp what you're trying to say. Much like Catholics parrot what they've been taught in Sunday school (Not to bring up any issues of that sort, just giving an example for those of you out there who tend to jump to conclusions). What this thread needs is a topic. All that i've read so far are a bunch of posts that theorise and criticize Regnier's vocabulary.
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You obviously missed all of my old topics.
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:10 PM   #93
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To all: My real problem with this "Critical Thinking" forum is the critical thinking. It reminds me of goths dressing "to be different." When really, it's just the other side of mainstream, parroting the thoughts you've been taught to think. See what I mean, anybody?
I'm not sure it's a problem to begin to form your own opinions off those of others. First you learn what is "mainstream," and then you expand.

I won't dispute the fact that all to often we see some terrible, terrible examples of critical thinking (A racist government holding back a cure for AIDS, anyone?) Whatever -- it happens.

What's really great about this forum is that it gives teenagers a chance to discuss topics they may not otherwise be able to discuss. Adults don't give teenagers much opportunity to talk about the things that are bothering them. They try, but adults sometimes seem to have a hard time remembering what mattered to them back in the day. We've had discussions on abstinence, dating, Hurricane Katrina, literature -- discussions that may be "mainstream," but that are discussions nonetheless. We start these threads because we want to learn, or share our opinions. Who cares if it's a discussion on why girls only like big dumb jerks who push them around instead of intelligent and devoted nerds? The intention is still to have a serious discussion. Most of the time we get it right.

Edit: Definitely took me way longer than it should have to get this typed and posted.
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No, he's absolutely right, this forum is a cesspool.
Let the man flex his superior vocabulary.
Let the man crush all of your egos.
I'm enjoying it.
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:41 PM   #95
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Panda: I do not mean discussions that are mainstream, rather mainstream opinions. The best example is "Bush sucks!". I mean, it's common knowledge, but so many people seek to gain respect in political terms merely by chanting this mantra.

This is anarchy. This is the iGeneration, personified.
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regnier, you would have loved to be around here two and a half years ago. Spec holds the record for the most threads ever created here (or likely anywhere) that never saw a second page.

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This, I only got from a few. Tasselfoot, for one, who I neglected before. And a few others just dropped names, which mean nothing. This is the internet: Wikipedia can conjure up thousands of names to drop.
I think this comment is directed at me (or maybe I am just vain?).

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iGeneration
Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you are using " iGeneration" like it's some kind of derogatory term. As if you are above such a classification. Are you not a member of the iGeneration? Were you not born in the late 1980s?Did you not grow up using computers? Are you not using the internet right now communicating with people you have not and never will meet? Have you never downloaded an mp3? Do you not own a cellphone? Have you never looked at a pornographic website? Chances are you have done at least one of these things. Thus, making you a member of the iGeneration.

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This is the iGeneration, personified.
I dont want to come across as an ass, but not sh*t. This is, afterall, an internet forum that attracts teens.

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Panda: I do not mean discussions that are mainstream, rather mainstream opinions. The best example is "Bush sucks!". I mean, it's common knowledge, but so many people seek to gain respect in political terms merely by chanting this mantra.
Most people seek to fit in. It's called confomity and it is crucial for survival in today's society, for the nail that sticks out gets hammered down (or something like that). I mean, this entire thread is a great example of such a case. I am certain you wil eventually get tired of defending your case and when that happens you have two options: leave or conform. Well, there is a third option in which we all drop it...but this is the iGeneration, we ride things until they die (Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger, SNAAAAAKE).

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This is anarchy
How is any of this anarchy? All I see is conformity.
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I see here realms of justification and self-denial. Angry denouements and the neologisms of the iGeneration. I see here directionless discontent and placeless rage, common sense and common intelligence. I see here the kind of people who think the world will end in their lifetime, and never realize that's a form of conceit.
All I see here is a group of mostly good people that I respect. I don't care if they're somehow flawed.

I would say that you've not made a very good first impression, if indeed you want to become an active member of this forum. When you come in fighting, you're bound to get some negative reactions (seeing how your first post seems to in many ways ridicule this site).

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I'd like for someone to explain how its possible for someone to be pseudo-intelligent. I mean seriously, either you are smart or you're not smart, there's no middle ground there
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