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Old 02-4-2006, 04:40 PM   #41
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I think life is a test to see whether you pass or fail

if you fail you die
if you pass, you still die, but happier
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Old 02-9-2006, 09:29 AM   #42
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"the meaning of life" hmm that a question that has been asked for ages yet no one has found out...because the people think to hard on that topic the blow it out of proportion the meaning of life is whatever you think it is...neone beg to differ with me?
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Old 02-9-2006, 09:48 AM   #43
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1) Welcome to the CT forum, DL. Try to use decent grammar through here -- it just makes it easier to read.

2) I say this thread has been worked out already. It's begun repeating itself. There is no set meaning to life, it's different for everyone and therefore it's not a solid topic for discussion. (IMO)
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Old 02-9-2006, 11:09 AM   #44
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2nd Nephi, Chapter 2, verse 25:

Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy.
^Book of Mormon scripture
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Old 02-9-2006, 01:14 PM   #45
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meaning of life: go have sex.
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I used to be mormon, that's a crock of shit. As for Clocktower, stop trying to convert people.
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I believe that the meaning of everything (or life if you would prefer it phrased) is to discover the meaning of everything (or, once again - life).

Science - what is it? Simply put it is the process in which we discover and explore the world around us. Taking this into the religeous mixing bowl we'll continue to say that "Science" in a more modern form was "compiled" by monks to discover the workings of God and His creations. (I'm glad you kind of posed this thought becuase I tore a guy a new ass at Chrsitmas about removing Christ from Christmas and a lot of that has to do with this thought, so bear with it)

Today we look at sicence as something concrete and completely factual, however a lot of what we "know" really truely can not exist in the forms we know them as. What are things made of? Molecules. Which are made of? Atoms. Which are made of? Neutrons and Electrons. Which are made of? it goes on until you arrive at the string theory and thats too far off topic. Anway, we take things as concrete, when in fact we really can't prove nor disprove them no more than statements in the bible. Furthermore subjects of science like math have been proven to not totally work (in raw form). While math is donein a logical absolute process, the basics have been disproven; you can not state a partial number as a whole there fore you have fraction or more accurately decimals. Man had to create a representation to convey the process, decimals were not the work of God...though it should have been - maybe then Id do better at math.

Now, where God comes into play and the meaning of everything (at least this is how I feel about it) is (and we'll work backwards a little here...(and Im only using the bible as a reference point, not to "convert people")

The bible sort of states that there are X number of souls (something like 14 billion). you can take this as mans representation of "a bunch" and the author(s) just got tired of writing zeros; or take it to mean that it is a specific number of souls to draw from. We know that there is more than 14 million popel on the earth right now, and throughout time there couldve possible been a biollion times that number already having passed through. So where does the 14 billion souls thing become relevant (bear with.. I said were working backwards).

Lets think now about psychology and classifications of people. You have Neurosis, Psychosis, Delusional, Sociopathic, Manics.... but you also have the better counterparts to these mindsets... this has nothing really to do with much here other than to illustrate the classification of people.

So, you have X number of limited souls - classifications of people - logically we need to figure out how these two things correlate. Well... It is my opinion that God, having made only a certain amount of souls will take each soul and put parts of it in each of us. We sort of stress teest teh souls types. Since we all lead very different lives yet succumb to many of the same emotions it gives an accurate test reslut as to waht souls do.

Side tracking again to other aspects of these "test souls", we should also understand that perhaps God was bored up in Heaven. What good is it to rule and have power if all of yoru servent mindlessly obey you? Its not. Havent you ever gotten kind of bored with a friend who does everything you say simply becuae you say it? I know you have to know one person wh ois a complete yes man. Consider Angels Heans Yes Men. Its kind of boring so I figure that God, takes the souls nad put them in us, says "ok you will do this or you will not do that". Enter teh Old Testament...yada yada yada... we as humns fail him, woe are us..... Enter New Testament - Praise be to Jesus, Jesus is born.... new covenant where all things in the past and future will be forgiven BUT - youhave to accept that Chrsit did it for you (though sometimes I wonder if Jesus was an Angel or a Heavens Yes Man - he was "perfect and without sin (angel), he diligently obeyed everything that was told to him (angel), allowed himself to die simply becuase he was told to (angel)... see where its going here?) Anyway, we have free will. We can do as we please, go where we want, and think what we want to think.

God tells us to do this or not to do it, ultimately the choice is ours. Its a test to see if we behave if no one is looking. I'm sure he wants to see if a creation will love him because he is truely great and deserving of compassion, or does he need to keep yes men around who'll do what he says because he said so.

What this doesnt leave much room for is the fallen angel; Lucifer. How was lucifer cast down if Angels indeed ARE yes men. I guess the same way Agent Smith broke away from the Matrix. He was made aware of his own concsiousness seperate fromteh Matrix and used the powers for the forces of eeeeeeeeevil.

Now - weve got the souls, the segents, classifications of people... then eding of it all. I suppose that will come when God feels hes collected enough data to determine if we as humans are worthy to collectively reside in heaven or better be able to hand pick those worthy. Those who will do as they are asked because they are eager to do it, vs those who do it becuas they feel thay have no option. Its like working until 5 because you HAVE to or working until 8 because you want to. Its a more productive heaven.

The statement about how God created man in His image, I feel means taht God made us how he thinks we should work. At no other point in the bible does God or Jesus say anything about how we loo klike God, but it does talk an awful lot about the things God has made and created for us to be hapy on earth with. These same things were also created in Hisimage. I guess if you take the statement about how God is in everything, God COULD look like a big red apple, but I find that an unlikely thing (and there are somethings Id like to NOT think God looked like - if God was in EVERYTHING... well... use your imagination.) It means God is in everything we hold dear...everything we have is because of God - thats what the statement means I think.

All of this together (and I know it was segmented and scattered, but I hope you understood what I was saying... I did), and basically were all LARPing for God so that he can determine if we as humnas love him becuase were told or because we DO love Him. Free will determines our level of spiritual integrity and the fact that Chrsit died on the cross was his act of incentive. Showing us that He loves us as much as we should want to love him (i.e. Abraham being asked to sacrifice his own son before God)

The only thing I can think of that this wouldnd tie up a loose end on is the questio "all of this sort of makes sense in a way but then if God is such a good person and if he loved us, why do bad things happen to good people?"
Great question, glasd I asked. Personally ... not everyone ids good and payback is a bitch. Im not everyone so to give a better answwer than my smartass one, I'll say that God lets bad things happen to good people becuae their time is up. theyve served their purpose, there could be enough data on a particular classification of soul so there is no more need for it on earth adn as a reward they get out of hell free.. I dunno. I do know that while bad things do happen, here on earth the survivors go on and have learned to cope. In doing so they've helped many many others deal with the same probelms or tragedies. A mother who has lost her daughter to a drunk driver, could go on and be the same person that pushed to pass a bill against it, in turn saving 50-100 lives in a year. We may not see it, but it is a viable reason. Yes it hurts us, but it is for the greater good, and according to the bible, sitting there all pissed off and upset about how WE feel isnt too ... Godly. So it really shouldnt affect us and keep us from being motivated to do those kinds of things anyway. Unfortunately sometimes things go south and we get that push to be a philanthropist.

So.. yeah.... were LARPing for God. God has his white lab coat on, looking down as the X number of classified souls LARP. its sort of fucked if you look at it that way, but... can we change it? nope.


If you wanted something more nonsecular - The meaing of everything is nothing. In its true form, meaning are useless labels we apply to things to make them more tangable. We can't look at something and blankly stare. We assume that there is a meaning to it.

SITUATION

A White piece of paper in a frame in an art gallery. People will stare at it and mutter to each other - Whats it mean, what is it, what does it represent. One person may blurt out that the piece represents purity in it natural form. An image of what you first see when you are born. The face of God. An imagination of a child. In time the group will discuss it and come to a general aggreeance as to waht the meaning is. Now, this whole time the artist has had no verbal input, and actually isnt even around to hear the group discuss the work.

A week later the artist and the group meet. The group states that the piece is representing what a child sees the very instant it opens its eyes. That it represents the imagination of a child. that as you stare at the work your mind places nonexistant objects and creates false balances within it. The artist listens intently and sit down adn stares at the work again. Upon standing up, the artist says "actually I didnt give it a meaning, it is simply white paper".

See, so not everyting has a meaning, but we give it one becuase we are compelled to . We can not go on knowing that there are things that simply are just ther with no reason or maening at all. To make that really simple : things have meaning because collectively we give them one. When man runs out of things to define he turns to the one collectively unanswerable question: "What is the meaning of life". It drives us, keeps us going and gives us a purpose. In a sense the meaning of life is the question that answers itself with itself. The meaning could be to continually ask the question and forever search for an answer that does not exist.

NOTE: Again I only used God and the religeous sense of the question to better explain and illustrate my form of an answer to the original question. nothing more.
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Old 02-9-2006, 05:58 PM   #48
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1) Welcome to the CT forum, DL. Try to use decent grammar through here -- it just makes it easier to read.

2) I say this thread has been worked out already. It's begun repeating itself. There is no set meaning to life, it's different for everyone and therefore it's not a solid topic for discussion. (IMO)
kk proper grammer will be used. sry was in a hurry when i was typing that just felt like throwing in my idea there but i'll read more from now on
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Old 02-9-2006, 06:05 PM   #49
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So you mean starting right after that post or what?
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Old 02-9-2006, 07:14 PM   #50
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damn tokzic you are an ass, funny though.
I dont believe there is a meaning to life, we have not come to this earth with a guide book or anything, and we also act on our free will. Morality is a social concept so it is not to be good, so i guess maybe the meaning of life is also socially derived and changes over time. So it goes with what reach says except with a society and not an individual. I dont think there are universal truths with humans
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I dunno... in a way I dont believe in free will... everything is a series of programs that instinctively go off and happen wihtout makeing a conscious choice. In the end... all i know is... I dont really care what anything means. All it does is add more stress to a world where most of the existing stress is pointless. Simplicity is key.

As for the grammar. I'll try and work on that... I just type fast and really dont feel like going back and editing typos just ot make someone elses life easier. If you know what I'm saying or trying to say, then thats good enough for me.
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hey bro its ok, in the brag board they hate me... i think they tried to rag on my grammar but he failed, oh well if at first you dont succeed.
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I used to be mormon, that's a crock of (#$%.
Huzzah for most offensive comment of the day!

You have made it on my bad list, which is saying something. You're now in the same ranks as MOOGY. =\ Hope you're proud of yourself.
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I used to be mormon, that's a crock of (#$%.
Huzzah for most offensive comment of the day!

You have made it on my bad list, which is saying something. You're now in the same ranks as MOOGY. =\ Hope you're proud of yourself.
awe come on, dont be mad at him!!! idk who you are but i know we need less hate in this place.
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:38 PM   #55
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zach... stop posting about things in which you have no idea. You joined 2 days ago... you don't know our regulars.

Skooter is a girl, for one thing.
We know you don't know who either one of them are... so keep your mouth shut.

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And to this discussion... I did not read it. Frankly, I think I'd want to pistol whip at least half of you if I did. Anyway... if this thread is going to continue going in a religious nature instead of the unreligious topic of original discussion, I'm going to lock it. Please try and use intelligent ways of expressing yourself. This is CT, not the GB. Less profanity, more explanation and patience with our fellow discussors.

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Tassels right. I didn't mean to be offensive, and hopefully you don't take this as offensive either, but I don't care where I stand on your list.

If you have faith, how I feel about your religion, really shouldn't matter.

Tass is also right in the fact that I am a girl

As for the meaning of life: Here's the meaning:

To spend the rest of your life, looking for it.
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Someone ressurected this thread again? Aww man.

My view on life? Video games
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Amen to that.
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zach... stop posting about things in which you have no idea. You joined 2 days ago... you don't know our regulars.

Skooter is a girl, for one thing.
We know you don't know who either one of them are... so keep your mouth shut.

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hey um.. shove a broomstick in your ass
and to skooter i didnt say i disliked you or anything, i was just sayin it seemed like the guy whas joking. im sorry
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ONLY LIFE ALLOWS ME TO DRIVE FURTHUR

Well stop wondering what it means because you'll never actually know...
Unless you just want to collect theories...

ps. I think that life is a lesson.
Seriously.
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