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Old 12-7-2005, 04:29 PM   #21
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Back on topic, the meaning of life. What is it?

And why should I care?

I personally don't care what it is because, guess what. I live. If you ask me, that's all there is to it. I'm here. In the words of Douglas Adams (yes, 42 indeed) "whatever happens, happens."

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Old 12-7-2005, 09:09 PM   #22
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Back on topic, the meaning of life. What is it?

And why should I care?

I personally don't care what it is because, guess what. I live. If you ask me, that's all there is to it. I'm here. In the words of Douglas Adams (yes, 42 indeed) "whatever happens, happens."

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why should anyone care about anything? maybe thats the reason to life...?

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Old 12-8-2005, 12:36 AM   #23
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The meaning of life? The meaning of life is to give itself meaning. Life means to you what you make it mean. If you want to just say there's no point, then fine, your life has no meaning. But when you think about your life, you tend to find that whether or not your life means something to you, it is what you mean to other people that really counts for anything. From this point stems a major part of my own personal philosophy:

Because I am an atheist, and because I believe that when I'm dead that's the end, I don't find that my life really has meaning to me. I'm just here to serve the rest of society through multifarious contributions. Just a few of these are friendship and comeraderie, buying things, contributing ideas to general discourse, and eventually contributing to the production of products for everyone else to buy (I also believe that capitalism and democracy accelerate the improvement of society).

So I guess that to me, my purpose to the general people of the country centers around my abilities to add to our economy and public discourse. A few levels smaller in scale, I make people happy by being a friend, or a good student, or fulfilling some other small personal role that makes it easier for others to do their part in society, like giving good mornings and thank yous to people. This of course all feeds back into the countrywide scale again. From there up, our country can help make others happy in all sorts of ways ranging from simple trading, to aid donations, even to removing inhibiting factors to this happiness (though I don't endorse the war). So that's the meaning of my life in general, to help improve the status quo for mankind.

This is because the purpose of life in general is to improve itself. It's not a goal set by and god, but that is what makes life what it is. If the first life had not tried to improve, it would not have wanted to reproduce, as reproduction is a method to improve life. Because life developed to the point of intelligence via sexual reproduction, sex has become an instinctive way to better the species. That's where we get the argument that sex is the best thing we can do for life on earth.

However, we live in an age where, in modern society at least, evolution doesn't really happen because there's no natural selection. Thus, sex isn't a way to actually improve the race. There are still fine reasons to make love, though. First off, it perpetuates the race, without which there would be no purpose to anything. Secondly of course, it makes people feel good so we can, again, contribute to the betterment of society.

So basically, my homebrewed school of thought says that the individual alone means nothing, but as part of society the individual is a vital tool to improve life. This is true in all societies, and again I feel that capitalism strengthens the individual to foster more development and improvement of life.

Or maybe we're just an inconsequential race of hairy apes inhabiting the surface of a giant computer which was built to find out the question of life, the universe and everything. Nobody really knows.

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I'd call this an answer, but indeed there is a lot more depth than I could ever write. Or think.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:00 PM   #24
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I'm too lazy to read all of it
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:38 PM   #25
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Life is a quest to avoid death.

It's a futile mission, but we try.
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:16 PM   #26
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To live.

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Old 01-15-2006, 09:24 PM   #27
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In instinctual terms every animals life is based on having children. But assuming that human beings have rose a step up over ardvarks, I would have to say there is no one-size-fits-all universal philosophy.
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:16 AM   #28
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I tried to respond to this question, but I don't think I could without offending anyone faithless persons out there. Those people, who write off God without so much as a second thought. I think the problem is, that faithless people are far to trusting. Grown in a post-modernist world, they trust the Greek philosophy taught in schools, and do not question what the teachers say.


I've been seeing lately, that more and more people are debating on whether creationism should be taught in schools. Particularly, on the origin of the universe. My thoughts on the matter? IT SHOULD NOT!

Repeating, no creationism should be taught in schools..

And, as far as the state is concerned, none is.

So why then, is the theory of evolution taught as a means to explain the origin of the universe? Is that not a violation of church an state? After all, what is creationism, but a philosophical theory attempting to explain the origin of the universe?

So why then, is evolution allowed to be taught, without a counter-point?

Evolution, though it has many readily apparent flaws and gaps, seen by the scientific community, if you look for them, is a fine theory.
I don't think that the theory should not be taught in schools... just because animals experience minor genetic changes that casually affect small strains of species over a certain period of time does not make the theory incompatible with God or Christianity. For all I know, God intended it to happen that way. Who am I to question God's motives?

It is only when the theory is taught as an explanation to the origin of the universe that a problem arises. It is a violation of church and state. When you use the theory to explain away God, it becomes a religion.

The theory is no longer an unbiased viewpoint of science, but a philosophy.
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:25 AM   #29
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Hmmm... maybe start a new thread about creationism vs. evolution. Or not, as religious debates are impossible to win and generally just cause problems rather than find solutions.
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:47 AM   #30
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hey hey, I'm not placing a case for creationism vs evolution... As far as I'm concerned the two theories do not contradict each other, until you use evolution to explain the origin of the universe.

But perhaps a thread on seperation of church and state would be nice

And as for arguments being impossible to win? That's just silly, everyone knows that! That's why I don't argue.
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:06 AM   #31
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YOU HAD A F%#@$^#@#$@#$#ING MONTH TO READ IT GO DIE YOU LOST AT LIFE
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:02 PM   #32
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I think the question of "what is the meaning of life" is the reason we have religion. I think way back someone asked the same question and felt out of place in the world, creating religion it gave him or her something to believe in, gave life a purpose. A meaning. I think its the reason why we feel most things. I’m no professor, scientist, priest or whatever. The meaning of my life? Or are lives? Or all life in general. Every living organism seems to contribute to the earth in someway. As we destroy it. Sorry for this ramble like. Humans seem to be the only things that feel love. Maybe love is something to justify a meaningless existence. Or maybe that’s a meaning in itself. Although you have to admit it makes perfect sense. The problem with this topic is that you not only start a debate about life, the meaning and the whys and why nots. You flare up everything that life involves. Which is everything you see around you.

Id love to talk about this, but I think its something you'd have to talk about in person, a forum just doesn’t cut it, or give the mood.
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:12 PM   #33
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It means fun.
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Really good way to put it Mindfields. If you can't have fun living, why live?
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It means fun.
Really good way to put it Mindfields. If you can't have fun living, why live?
Maybe people that have depression may find meaning in looking for happyness. Dont you think? Why live is like asking whats the meaning of life. Which takes us to were we started.

I wouldnt argue with you, im lazy. I will disagree with your statement though.
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I wasn't going to post in here. To be honest I don't see the point in asking questions like this.

A question like this, doesn't do anything but harm people. Never once, has wanting an answer that we don't really need, HELPED anyone.

It's one of those questions like "Does God really exist?" "Who made God", or "What happens after we die" and my personal favorite, "Do you think there's another life form?"

It's pointless to discuss, because no one has an answer. Not to mention, it's all opinion based anyways. Everyone is basically sharing their opinions.

I ask myself most of these questions a million times over, but to ask someone else, won't help me out. My suggestion, on a serious not, and not in an argumentative way... forget about it. Don't ask things like this. It's just all way too much for someone to have to deal with, when you know that in the end, the issue can't be resolved, it's impossible.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:05 PM   #37
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I finally thought about it. It has no meaning to me. I think we just exist because this planet supports life. We just exist. ok? lol

And by the way, I was fucking grounded for that month. Stfu.
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i think the meaning of life is so god can see if u either go to heaven or hell. i mean, it's like a test. once u finish your test u pass or fail. passing is going to heaven. and failing is going to hell. it's just to see if u go to heaven or hell. that's what i think the menaing of life is. but im religious, some arent. but u should be, im christian.
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I thought that for a moment.

But know life just sux...
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