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I found this on another site, and I thought that it made a lot of sense. I'm removing the statements about Kayne West because at this point, they are irrellevant.
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Anyways, the point in the post is that while our reaction was slow, it was also slowed by the magnitude of this event. I don't think anyone in New Orleans expected it to be as bad as it was. I don't think, no matter how much of an idiot he is, the President really knew how bad it was going to be. I know I didn't, and I'm a well informed youth. All I thought was, "Well, this is another hurricane in hurricane season. Best brace myself for storms the blow up north." No matter how badly this was "bungled" or "handled poorly", I think that what is most important is what's happening now. I didn't see anyone on here get up in arms when this was actually happening. I saw posts about "Sluts: Ladies, Keep on Truckin" but I didn't see anything about how the aftermath was being handled... That is, until newscasters started talking about how poorly it was being handled. But I digress... I think the situation was shitty to begin with. But it's not like the President was being malicious, sitting in the White House rubbing his hands together and laughing at the tragedy. Mobilizing troops takes time... And I didn't think they would need to be moblized. Mal PS: Don't delete this. I put a lot of time into it.
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No, I think Raegan has him beat by a couple days. Maybe that changed recently.
He has spent 340 days on vacation, if I remember. It was in TIME magazine's statistics column thinger. That's somewhat less than 48%.
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That's 18-20 odd percent. Not great, but about 48% less than 48%.
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Right now, things are moving as fast as possible. They sent those that had to stay to the Super Dome. They already evacuated those people. Those didn't have a choice. The rest of the people, or at least a good part of them, just CHOSE not to leave. And many of them mobbed the Super Dome afterward, just to steal a spot from those that had no choice. I'm sorry but people today think about nothing but themselves.
Those that chose to stay, chose to take the chances. There was a woman that chose to stay, even though she had 2 children to think about. She tried to push in and get those children evacuated on the Super Dome busses. When they refused her, she threw a fit and told those rescuers that "I hope you can live with your conscience!" Now, who should be having the guilt, the one that refused to help them get out the second time, or the mother that refused to get them out the first time? And now others are saying the rescues arent going fast enough. (I would put money on the fact that the people accusing rescuers of not going fast enough, aren't the ones that are doing the rescuing.) Sorry if I feel sick about the selfishness of so many people in the world. |
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They might not be the ones doing the rescuing, but it is not too unlikely that they are the the ones getting rescued (or not).
As well as many others, of course.
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I Agree with this 100%. I'm tired of people exaggerating the blame of the "delayed" reaction on Bush or the government. Seems like a new trend or something.
Of course the whole thing is going to suck... doesn't always mean we need to stretch blame to people. A friend showed me this earlier today, kinda relevant, I thought it was pretty funny: http://kerrystopshurricane.ytmnd.com/
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I've been waiting for another of these topics to come up. 4srs.
Mississippi took the hardest hit in this hurricane, but nobody seems to be paying as much attention to the towns that were completely wiped out in southern MS as they are to NO. Because none of the cities in MS are as... "important"(?) as New Orleans is, and ALSO because they're not complaining. The mayor of one of the towns that was destroyed actually stayed to wait out the hurricane (as did many others along the gulf coast of Mississippi, partly because they weren't expecting a direct hit and partly because most of them had lived through Hurricane Camille in '62). He was there to help his townspeople when they needed it. The governor of Mississippi made my day yesterday, during an interview with Katie Couric. When asked if he was just a little disapointed in the way the federal government and the Bush administration had responded (because the media is just having a hell of a time blaming this entire catastrophe on one man), Gov. Barbour replied, "Well, Katie, this is not about POLITICS. Republican, Democrat, black, white -- we were ALL affected and we ALL have to pull together to get through it." And I'd like to quote a post on the Xanga of one of my former TAG students, a resident of Choudrant, LA: Quote:
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To really believe that a hurricane could rip down and flood everything you've worked for in a few hours has got to be hard. I wonder how many people jumped into their storm shelters and got flooded.
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My parents grew up in Oklahoma, now they live in Mississippi. I was freaked out when I knew the hurricane was coming right at them, but my mom was like, "Psh -- these people are sissies." Ahh, tornado survivors.
She also said that if she'd been in any real danger, if a big-ass hurricane was threatening her home, she'd probably just load the horses and whatever memories she wanted to save into the trailer and leave and never come back. |
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It's not really about that people stayed behind, that's to be expected. It's not that all the poor couldn't evacuate, that's to be expected to. The real question is why planning wasn't put into place before the storm hit, when it was known the storm would hit.
I AM critical of the response because I feel that if such a storm is approaching and the damage it can cause is known (and it was known, many times have people stressed the perilous situation faced by new orleans should a hurricane strike it), the authorities should "game" the storm. Send buses in BEFORE the storm hits and have them waiting very near the likely to be affected region. Begin mobilizing as soon as the potential disaster is known. Officials waited until AFTER the storm hit to really begin diving into the logistics and even then had their feet tied with bureaucracy (having to wait until the governor asks the president for aid and such). I think that if you simply say "oh man this storm was so bad no one could have known the logistics are impossibly complicated" you're being naive and unaware of the resources this nation possesses. Why weren't food distribution companies (for example in the canned goods, water bottling companies, and produce companies) anywhere that had experience with trucks called and asked to offer their services immediately should the damage by the storm warrant it. And why the hell is the director of FEMA the prior head of the arabian horse racing league or whatever? Why didn't bush appoint someone much more qualified to run it, such as someone in red cross? and why did congress confirm the nomination (not sure if they had to or not)? Furthermore, Bush's personal response to the situation, and I just mean the way he talked about the disaster and his speeches following it were terrible. He needs to be strong and willing to criticize his own government when it needs criticism, in public. He knows the relief effort was botched for the first two days... he said as much in person to Mayor Nagin, as Nagin revealed on 60 Minutes. the problem with the response to this storm was that the authorities waited until after the storm to really begin focusing their efforts on helping those affected. If the disaster is possible, and it was known that this particular flooding situation was possible, then you start acting immediately, in the days before the storm, making sure the resources are in place and setting up logistics then. It's not like buses couldn't get into the city in the two days after the storm. Private organizations, such as the Hilton hotel managed to contact a busing company and get all it's guests out long before even the first buses began arriving at the Superdome. Don't just say "man no one could have predicted the degree of destruction this hurricane would bring, and the logistics are just impossible to figure out." You plan for the worst and hope for the best... and the governments of both states and the federal government were far too sluggish in accomplishing this. edit: lol brown got fired. don't think the government doesn't know it fucked up. |
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I was ultimately the one who wrote the 48% quote. (Go figure that you're conflicting with something, and I said it, HAHA) Anyways, I READ it, knowing whether or not it's true, is another thing. It was in a book somewhere... I found it interesting, because everytime we have a crisis, he's at the beach, or his ranch... Never quite convienent. Anyways, If I can find the article, I'll definitely post.
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I really think he plans it that way. When shit happens, he knows in advance, and is thusly at the beach or at his ranch.
Actually, what I hear is that his ranch can function with most of the services of the White House. Same with Air Force One... All you really need is a fax machine and phone with the conference all feature. Yeah, him on vacation a lot is a bit much, but I'm not debating wether or not he's out to play. I think the situation was handled about as well as was to be expected... Mal
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...ricane_Katrina
Just a timeline of events before and after Katrina. |
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August 26th : 11:50PM - Blanco & President George W. Bush have phone conversations; in which Bush allegedly requests that the governor turn over control of the Louisiana National Guard to FEMA; the governor refuses.[2]
August 27th: New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin calls for a voluntary evacuation of the city. The emergency plans rely on citizens to bring their own 3-day supply of food and water to the Superdome and Convention Center. Although current Louisiana Emergency Evacuation guidelines allow use of public school buses, no idle school buses are used to transport the poor." [3] It really is saddening when the government of Louisianna actually throws there own people in the water and says sink or swim... I still believe that Bush should have tried to overthrow governor Blanco... She's an idiot.
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See? Dubya worked on his vacation!
And State Officials TURNED DOWN FEDERAL AID. Quote:
They don't tell you these things on the news. Why? It wouldn't make the federal government look like the bad guy anymore. |
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The media does it because the media will get more attention if they show something bad happening.
As they say, only bad news is news. (In America at least) Watch the documentary Bowling for Columbine, it points it out well
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I thought that movie was absolutely hilarious, and it expresses the way I feel about a lot of the things that happens in our government, but I wouldn't advise you to go around and suggest it to people for actual facts or historical information. Michael Moore, did that as a joke, and what a great joke it was, still all the same, nothing more than a joke.
Not bashing you, just letting you know a majority of that movie, was fake.
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Did that as a joke my ass. While the movies ARE political jokes, he takes them seriously.
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Very good points Mal, I actually enjoyed one of your posts
Anyways, all of those things are very very true, and while I do not like Bush, and I do not see him doing what I would call a good job, he is doing what he can about this particular situation, which in it's circumstances, isn't very much. I've come to terms with the idea of it not being his fault.. which was rather hard for me to do. So thanks for the read, and the lesson ![]()
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