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| I am a Theist |
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9 | 30.00% |
| I am an Atheist |
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| I am Agnostic |
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7 | 23.33% |
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He probably ran the first big-assed Burger King, which he used to finance his infinite kingdom. How did he get the cows? Through the sacrafice. And he's so rich off of the Burger King, that he doesn't need money! It's all very logical and takes no leaps of faith at all!
Mal
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Yes, yes. Of course. His domain now lies in White Castle.
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That HAS to be it.
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Let's not mock others' faith now. This was (and still is) meant to be an intelligent discussion. I do find the Burger King analogy pretty humerous, though.
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I also believe you're probably a relatively unhappy person at most times, or at least empty. I could go on for a long time about my own little hypothesis for just about anything, but I've long since given up because no one else wants to hear it. You must realize that everything you've even bothered to say in this thread has been said a zillion and a half times, at this very site? That's one reason I'm coming across as bored and not really arguing. I've been there, done that, with people that actually bothered to listen and understand my side. You're not worth my time. In fact, I've spent way too much time with this post already. Good day, sir, and God bless.
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So, Laharl, just because someone chooses not to believe in your God, they must be unhappy or empty inside? Listen, I lost my invisible friend with I was 7. It was the Velvatine Rabbit. And I also learned about him from a book. But sometimes, you just have to let go.
And I don't feel empty or sad at any point. Except last night at "Garden State". Part of that made me cry. Mal
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why does god need money?
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Are you trying to tell me that 'God' being omnimax is an opinion? Explain to me how it could be any other way, and I'll consider it. But if that's not what you mean, then I suggest you directly state your problem with my post. Also, it is a horrible fallacy to conclude that, just because I don't put my beliefs into illogical but comforting things, I am an unhappy/'empty' person. I have to admit that I was slightly irritated at this statement, because it is a totally false assumption/steriotype. I do not need an invisible, all-powerful friend to keep me happy. I do not rely on illogical comforts, but rather, I take pride in my ability to overcome such irrational thinking. I searched through the critical thinking forum for a post that was even similar to mine. I looked to see if anyone had posted about this specific topic--the definition of 'God'--and I did not find one. If it has been brought up before, it deserves to be re-posted, because it is something that is still debatable--I doubt it reached a definite conclusion before. This is a 'discussion' forum, right? Just because you have discussed this before doesn't mean that it cannot be discussed by others. Either you share your views, and be willing to debate them, or you don't--at all. Like the very begining of my post states--you must have common ground to start an argument from; yet you have not given me a specific thing to debate (regarding my 'opinionated' argument), therefore you have wasted my time. I don't mean to make enemies, and I had hoped that this discussion remain civil. Please show me that you can have a healthy, valid argument, and I will be glad to debate in a friendly manner. I will 'bother to understand' your side if you give me reason to; I swear it. May good consequence show you favor. (that's my version of 'God bless') ~NEO |
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People like you make me tired, to the core, to my very inner soul. Leave those of us that believe alone, please. Just go away and do your own thing. If someone jumps down your throat with their own belifs about a God, feel free to banter and argue with them. At one point in time, religion was a topic that was not to be discussed at FFR because it's a touchy subject. Quote:
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I tell you what I do here, for reasons I don't even know. I'm probably just mostly talking for the sake of talking. I honestly don't even know. Quote:
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Well, God hates you both. I say hate because I know God doesn't ever hate, he hates the sin, not the sinner (except gays). You're both prideful, and dicks. Settle down. Get it back on topic before this gets locked, you arrogant cods.
Mal
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...well, I admit that I am prideful, but that wasn't very civil yourself... Anyways, I'm only trying to understand his argument, that's all. To have a discussion, you must understand the opposing viewpoint...
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I'm not going for civil here; you two are fighting over petty semantics. And I think it's mainly because Laharl can't think of a good arguement contrary to yours, and you can't think of anything else to prove your point. But that's just my take on things.
Mal
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I don't want to get into this arguement, but just know, Laharl didn't enter this thread to debate the content of the thread creator's post, but rather his approach to his point, and the post in general.
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There are two schools of thought on the irrationality of theories of god. The first is that god defies logic. Fine. The second is that god is made up, and that is why it is illogical. I plan to expound further on this second theory; there really isn't much to expound upon on the first theory (more thought was given to the second, which is why there is much more detail).
The Creation of God Acoording to Daniel Quinn, author and philosopher, man created god as we know it today around the time he developed agriculture. A hunter-gatherer lifestyle requires expending of calories to get food, water and shelter in a 1:5 ratio. Spend 1 calorie, get 5 calories. Spend 200 calories, get 1000 calories. Now, agriculture was a bit harder. 2 calories gained per 1 calorie spent. Life was hard. So, in order to bring purpose and hope into their lives, the people began inventing tales of a great god who created them and a wonderful afterlife to look forward to. It stuck. Another quirk of this culture was that it required everyone else to do it, too. So, the Totalitarianists set out converting everyone else. Soon, the majority of the world was Totalitarianist. Not all of them followed Christ; Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and Jewish faiths are other major totalitarianist faiths. Of course, there was god before agriculture. When prehistoric humans asked themselves the big questions, like "Who created us?" and "Why are we here?", they were unable to answer them. They began forming theories about a great God who created the universe to satisfy these burning questions. The Salvation of God by Man Well into the second millenium of Totalitarianism, God lives. Despite the outdating of theories of God by more plausible theories of the Big Bang and Darwinism, God lives. I believe this is because life is still quite hard and people still like the idea of a higher purpose and a glorious afterlife. That, combined with millenia of social inertia, has caused theories of god to still be quite popular, despite all logic. Which brings me back to my original point, which is that God is an illogical fantasy.
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- How do you know that 'god' hates gay folks? No one has any means of finding this out. - Your bible says that God hates no one. Contradiction! - You refer to gay folks as a group; 'gays'. How about I refer to you simply as a 'Catholic'? Stereotypes are bad. - There is nothing wrong with being gay. Chimapnzees participate in male homoerotic sexplay to keep the males from tearing each other apart. Our genes are 99% identical to Chimpanzee genes. And no we are not 'above' homoerotic tendencies. They are hardwired into our brains as much as heteroerotic tendencies are, and everyone has at least some level of them in them. In fact, sexual orientations are completely mutable, if you put your mind to it. I've changed several times. I could even go so far as to say that we would all be bisexual if not for our society implying to us at an early age that homosexuality is bad*. In face of all this, how can you possibly say that homosexuality is bad. - The only reason you think homosexuality is bad is because it makes you uncomfortable; you project that homophobia onto your god subconsciously as justification to yoursellf and others for hating homosexuality. *Most societies make homosexuality a taboo. This is due to the group psychology principle, through which one person or entity of power or esteem (in this case the church) begins thinking something (in this case that homosexuality is bad), and the followers, incapable of or not allowed to think for themselves, begin thinking the same way. The idea is inherited, and eventually becomes fact in the eyes of those victimized by this pattern. Some societies do not accept the idea that homosexuality is bad, such as the ancient Greeks. It would be a great pleasure to go into great detail about the widely accepted kinky behavior of the ancient Greeks, but I shall not.
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MalReynolds was being sarcastic.
Extremely sarcastic. How did you not catch that?
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I love you mal.
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Oh man, I'll be sure never to use sarcasm on the internet ever again. Just for you.
Mal
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