Old 12-27-2011, 02:12 PM   #321
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I like you MagicCarpetRide, like your ideals I should say. I do not drink tap water at all. Only distilled and zero'd water with no PPM. People wonder why the cancer rate has went up tremendously in the past 50-60 years. In the US, you cannot find the real reason for fluoridating water, they will spout it is good for your teeth. You obviously know this is not true. It is not good for teeth. It is though a good way to medicate an entire population by poisoning the water supply and getting away with it.

I know we certainly did not consent to drinking neurotoxins in what is deemed as "safe to drink" water.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:30 PM   #322
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Water is made of two deadly, explosive, chemicals.
lmfao... I hope you're not saying what I think you're saying, and that the molecular compounds H2 and O1 are the deadly explosive chemicals, because obviously that's only true if they're made two separate things, which in the case of water, they are not.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:36 PM   #323
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Yes, when seperate they are deadly. I'm not implying you're going to split the compound by mistake or something. I was using that to point out that basically in some form or other, everything in the world can actually be dangerous if it were to be misused. Drugs, weapons, etc. But that doesn't mean it should be taken away.

Thanks for explaining something blatantly obvious. It's a very stable compound and I know it does not easily break down.

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Old 12-27-2011, 03:42 PM   #324
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That's like saying 60% of your body has the potential to be deadly in some shape or form. I understand what you're trying to say, but that analogy is just silly.
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Old 12-27-2011, 03:43 PM   #325
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I guess I do agree, that was pretty lame.

I just laugh when people knock things when they don't have a justified reason to do so.

"Weed is bad for you, I've never tried it, I don't know why it is. I was told it was."

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Old 12-27-2011, 04:02 PM   #326
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Yes, any normally-safe object/substance can be used in an abusive manner -- who cares? You can kill someone with an eraser if you really wanted to, but it's going to be a lot easier with a gun. The question is where the cutoff point should be along the spectrum of reasonable harm/use.
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But who care about a cut off point either? This thread was about the opinion of drugs. My opinion is that they are bad if abused, and that if people are to say drugs that are illegal are all bad for you, then they should take a look at other things that are also very bad for people.

As for a cut off just relating to what should be illegal because it is extremely dangerous; Meth, Heroin, Cigarettes, crack, PCP.

There is just part of me that says that isn't freedom. People should make the decision on what they are going to put in their own bodies, and so I also believe government shouldn't be allow to make drugs illegal if they aren't marketed in stores where kids could buy them.
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:35 PM   #328
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That's not the point. The law is law, if you break it you're punished for it. It doesn't matter how many shades of grey, the system will always see you as black or white, to a certain degree.
my point is that it does not take critical thinking to come to the conclusion that people who are in jail are there because they broke the law. my point is if you think the main idea behind marijuana legislation reform is to keep people that break the law out of jail, you are not considering the main grievances and are disseminating a valid argument across moot points. this does not belong in a forward or progressive-thinking discussion.

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What does Canadianity or Americanity have to do with that reasoning in the slightest?
the length of the list of variables is incomprehensible to me, as i have not been a drug user in canada. but here are just a few factors to consider:
-incarceration experiences (canadian vs. american)
-quality of substance
-price of substance
-price of getting caught

simply put, the experiences are just different in ways that cannot really be quantified. that is what i mean by "privilege." you won't know what it's like to be discriminated against as a black person because you will never be a black person. similarly, you won't know what it's like to face persecution for supporting mexican gang wars as an american if you're not an american. so please don't compare being a drug dealer in canada to being a drug dealer in america. they are two very different jobs.

for future reference, i was not using this as an argument that people who buy weed should not go to jail. there is no point in arguing about that, and i don't really care to see it in a "critical thinking" discussion

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I'd rather not have weed legal to be honest. If I have to breathe it on city corners like Tobacco smoke, then nope. Other than that if people can be civil (hah!) then I'm all for it. Just my opinion on weed
if it makes you feel any better, i have been medicated for the last 3 weeks and haven't smoked at all. there is more than one way to consume marijuana without smoking. the only reason you don't know about it yet is because you're a good law-abiding citizen and don't dabble in dirty illegal drugs in the first place.

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The question is where the cutoff point should be along the spectrum of reasonable harm/use.
in my opinion this question should be the essence of the thread. somehow this thread devolved to telling people they deserve to be in jail for breaking the law, which is something a 4 year old could have told me.
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Right, the question was what do you think of drugs, not involve legality in your opinion of drugs.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:58 PM   #331
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Right, the question was what do you think of drugs, not involve legality in your opinion of drugs.
I wasn't the one who posted that they got busted possessing enough marijuana to get a felony charge, and then complain about being punished for breaking the law. I respond to illogic where I see it, whether the original post in the thread was about that or not.
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I wasn't the one who posted that they got busted possessing enough marijuana to get a felony charge, and then complain about being punished for breaking the law.
and yet you act like what you have to say is any more relevant
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This thread has veered off from the original post into a more open discussion about drugs. We already know everyone's opinion. Legality is more relevant to the current conversation.
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and yet you act like what you have to say is any more relevant
Addressing the topic as it has developed is more relevant than addressing the original post when the discussion is no longer about that.
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-knee slap-

And yes it is in fact undeniable that he broke the law, and should not feel in denial for having broken the law as it is. Having a view that opposes the law is valid to have, but not opposing the fact that you broke the law. Though that's pretty obvious if you ask me.

I like what Carl Sagan said about medicinal marijuana.

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I love Carl Sagan. Dude is a genius.

Marijuana was the name given to create a derogatory image of the plant. I prefer to just call it cannabis, it's actual name. The "two-headed dog" plant.

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See, people talking about what they've been busted with is where this topic seems to have went astray. That seems to have caused the fuss, and is irrelevant. I agree, don't cry if you get busted knowing full well what would happen. Live and learn.


EDIT: Off topic, but since I'm receiving e-mail notifications to my gmail account about this "drugs" thread, It's now showing grow light advertisements. I don't like that.

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People wonder why the cancer rate has went up tremendously in the past 50-60 years.
Actually, it looks like it's been pretty steady. http://onctalk.com/wp-content/upload...-over-time.jpg The only big change here is lung cancer, but look at the dates: that's due to the huge increase in smoking over time, with a convenient downturn in the recent anti-smoking years. You could say the cancer rate has gone up and the mortality rate has simply gone down to compensate; but then again, cancer is more likely the older you get, and the life expectancy has also increased over time due to typical medical advances. I think that explains it pretty well.

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In the US, you cannot find the real reason for fluoridating water, they will spout it is good for your teeth. You obviously know this is not true. It is not good for teeth.
Sure it is. Low levels of fluorine in saliva prevent the decay of enamel, and thus help with cavities. (Incidentally, the US is not the only country which gives everyone fluorine. Several other countries do it too, and some European countries fluoridate the salt instead of the water.)

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Marijuana was the name given to create a derogatory image of the plant.
Marijuana is just what it was called in Mexican Spanish. The derivation is uncertain, but there's nothing wrong with using the word itself.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:29 PM   #339
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lol, No. Marijuana was the derogative term purposely associated with it.

Fluoride does not actually help teeth at all. That's what it is supposed to do.

If you think you are correct with that assumption by just reading something you quickly searched, also do a search for "fluorosis" and tell me what too much use of fluoride does.

If you're going to correct someone, get your info correct. You are told that is what fluoride does, it does not help teeth. Also, that is suggested as a topical application. Such as sunscreen, there is no reason to drink sunscreen, you apply it externally. Why then would you drink daily a neruotoxin that is labeled as a number 5 chemical? When water is fluoridated, the men wear BIOSUITS to handle the drums. And you think it's healthy? That is a joke, also look up the areas that are more heavily fluoridated for their particular population and find out how low the consensus of IQ level is. Fluoride DESTROYS your brain, don't even get me started.

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I thought it was Cannabis.. ?_?
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