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It's amazing to me that you can work your way around to "Nobody was hurt (That I'm aware of), so the fact that I knowingly and intentionally broke the law and had to deal with the consequences is waaah waaah waaah I don't want to go to jail, pot should be legal, you're all jerks!"
Other people breaking the law doesn't change what you did. You thinking it shouldn't count as breaking the law doesn't change what you did. You want to break the law, man up and accept the consequences when you get caught. You knew what the penalties could be, that stuff is written down publicly for anybody to read. You want to avoid the consequences because they are bad, and have a negative impact on your life. Guess what? Mission accomplished. That's what laws are SUPPOSED to do. Punish you for violating them, make you an example for other people who might think of doing the same thing, and deter you from ever doing it again. |
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I'm gonna throw out the old fashioned why Is drinking and smoke cigs legal, what great system is protecting us from that?
Also it is definitely possible to get clean herb that hasn't been sprayed with chemicals every single time that is healthier for you then fast food. If it were legal it would be even easier because it would be more of a standard to not spray everything down because you have to grow in some hidden insect infested space. I have seen how many people smoke it's a big amount, people lie and hide it all the time because of the consequences. It's just a scare tactic and propaganda and in the near future I feel like my points will be a lot more clear to everyone. Just gotta let the fact sink in that nobody has died from smoking it, but if they have died it is because it is illegal so gangs use it and police officers are trigger happy. It is far more dangerous being illegal |
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Only do legal things. You'll have LOADS of fun...
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smittyicecream 3:36 pm yo this pot i just got smells like straight up doo doo (good doo doo), a pungeant strong smell ![]() ![]() [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
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You can't tell me you've never broke the law.
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smittyicecream 3:36 pm yo this pot i just got smells like straight up doo doo (good doo doo), a pungeant strong smell ![]() ![]() [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
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But is it being ****ed over, when the punishments are visible on record as tied to exact levels of offense, and then you suffer those punishments?
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FFR, lift, repeat
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well either way the court system in the U.S. has way too many flaws and I did get screwed over. If you had to pay court fines to watch it go towards ungrateful lazy fat correction officers you would be mad too. If weed was legal I would have a job and no stress and I would be perfectly happy in every way not that I'm unhappy now. I would never get arrested because I'm a law abiding citizen and there are probably at least a million people in the same situation who could be doing good and pushing the economy by actually working instead of bossing pot smokers around with a gun and calling it justice
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It is, because those punishments are more severe than the crime committed and the punishments are inconsistent. Celebrities can openly talk about how much weed they smoke and rappers talk about it in their songs but when a hard working, well-mannered, young citizen smokes a joint outside their dorm building they can get expelled from college. That's getting ****ed over. He was causing no trouble, while all of his peers are getting shit faced and causing real problems then get a slap on the wrist. There's something wrong with that picture in my opinion.
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I can talk about smoking pot and I can talk about murdering people, just like rappers do. But if I'm caught -doing- those things instead of just talking about them, I get punished.
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i don't think anyone has ever reasoned that marijuana should be legalized because they went to jail for it. anyone. there is simply more to it than just angst, that potheads are just mad because they are persecuted for getting high. there is a very legitimate argument for the use of medicinal marijuana that you are belittling with bullshit moot counterpoints like this. you are also speaking from a privileged perspective. talk about drugs in canada if you want, but it's just not fair for you to think you can compare a drug user's life in canada to a drug user's life in america. the real world just isn't as black-and-white as the law would lead you to believe. |
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Like when steve-o waved his bag of weed in front of the cops just to prove they wouldn't do anything, or when snoop dogg smokes weed on stage (actually a lot rappers have done this), or when 50 cent was caught on camera doing coke backstage, or Arnold Schwarzawhatever who went on to become governor after being recorded blazing. Admittedly these are all different than distribution of marijuana but still...
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That's not the point. The law is law, if you break it you're punished for it. It doesn't matter how many shades of grey, the system will always see you as black or white, to a certain degree.
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Sure. We have a law set in place for a reason, just like back in the day prohibition was initiated. We weighed things out and reevaluated and understood that breaking the prohibition would do more good than bad, maybe the same thing will happen one day and we'll understand that if we decriminalize it, there won't be such extreme measures to evade the law and potentially violent encounters due to it's scarcity. I think it's still come a long way from where it was, with medical pot being available for those that meet the requirements. I'm sure it will eventually get closer to legal status and policing will focus less on this harmless inevitable act and more so on getting violent people off the streets. Some of them carry pot, a lot of them don't. It's kind of unfair that if a violent person holds a specific quality, that quality is seen as associated only with violence. If a person shot up a school wearing a micky mouse hat, those would probably be seen as a reminder of violent things from that point forward, depending on the severity of the act. Pot's been in the same boat for ages to many people.
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1/ It is against the law 2/ You knew it was against the law 3/ You did it anyway 4/ You got caught, and were punished according to the law 5/ Given 2/ and 3/ I have no sympathy for the fact that you knowingly broke the law and were punished accordingly What does Canadianity or Americanity have to do with that reasoning in the slightest? |
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I'd rather not have weed legal to be honest. If I have to breathe it on city corners like Tobacco smoke, then nope. Other than that if people can be civil (hah!) then I'm all for it. Just my opinion on weed
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I didn't read through the whole thread yet, but this just made me lol at work. All illegal drugs, EVEN heroin is safer than many pharmaceuticals. Aspirins can kill a person as well. Just because a man in a white smock tells you some chemical is safe to take, does not mean a thing.
Sodium Fluoride which is in ALL tap water in the US is a very deadly neurotoxin which I'm assuming you drink daily...do you think that is safe? You AREN'T supposed to swallow toothpaste filled with it, but you're supposed to drink it? I could go on and on, but I'll have to check back later when I have time to explain more. Cigarettes are worse than cocaine or heroin. Hands down. Marijuana is harmless, slows aging, makes you hungry, and stops pharmaceutical companies from making the largest profit possible. Pot is not illegal due to anything other than greed. There are no known adverse health effects known to this day. Maybe speculation, but that is all. Cocaine will not kill you trying it unless you're trying to do way too much or doing street stuff cut with dangerous chemicals. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying, don't listen to what you're teachers tell you. Learn things through R&D, not just being a good little listener. Don't trust anyone by what they say, you shouldn't trust me just saying things either, find out for yourself. Drugs that are natural are not going to hurt you in moderation. You can overdose severely on water. Everything can be a poison BESIDES cannabis, does that make sense? You could smoke pot all day and it be harmless to the body, but you could drink water all day and end up dead or in the hospital. Water is made of two deadly, explosive, chemicals. Please, DO NOT listen to the DARE croud telling you drugs are bad. Lifestyle choices are bad, as well as being a follower. Drugs are only bad when the government is not making the money selling them to you. I've done many things over the years, and I've done them responsibly, with nothing but positive reactions and improvement to my life. I think the only things that really are nothing but bad, in my opinion are heroin, and methamphetamines. Even some amphetamines are good for you occasionally, but I do not mean smoking street meth. That is pure poison. Why should you listen to a societal stand point on what is good or bad for YOU, or what some other guy tells you is good for you? That is total bs, people should be allowed to safely, on their own terms at home do what they will. I agree laws should be strictly enforced on driving under the influence or causing others harm. Other than that, I will do whatever I please anytime, regardless of the law. I always will. And to Devonin, I respect your opinions, and anyone and his/her opinion for that matter, but you saying if you can't have fun without breaking laws you should be institutionalized? Seriously? Can you say you have NEVER ripped a CD? NEVER downloaded a movie, CD, copyrighted composium of some sort? Never went 5-10 mph over the speed limit? These are harmless and are completely illegal. I'm just saying, everybody can be safe and do illegal activities. We shouldn't be communistic and place people in prisons without fair trial for socialist ideals such as THAT ludicrous one you spouted. Last edited by prodigy06; 12-27-2011 at 02:08 PM.. |
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