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Old 05-13-2004, 11:09 AM   #21
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im not sure you are correct in saying that mohhamed instructed his people to kill jews, the word islam itself means surrender, and except in the extremist groups they are not allowed to do violence and are even required to donate to charity. [the giving of alms]
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Old 05-13-2004, 03:15 PM   #22
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The man wasn't killed because of the treatment of the Iraqis. It was because he was Jewish. Muhammed proclaimed somewhere, I can't remember where, to kill jews. Hang them, decapitate them, burn their limbs, and other such things. The men are actually praying, not necessarily yelling.
No wonder you need friends--you hate people so easily. I'm sorry to see that you buy into everything the media tells you--saying all that about Mohammed is kinda sad. You obviously have no idea what he said, but just took the word of some angry southerner who thinks all other religions are going to hell. Mohammed actually encouraged getting along with other religions (specifically Judaism and Christianity) and actually took a lot of crap from other religions too. Another thing to keep in mind is that Islam was the most tolerant society to other religions ever to come about back in its day...so how could you say the man who explained the principles of the religion also said to murder? The reason arabs and jews don't get along too well is because of conflicts over Israel/Jerusalem and who the holy land belongs to. Before you hate someone, understand them a little. You remind me of the guys who beat up Indian people on the street after 9/11 because they thought that's what Arabs looked like.
These are extremists, kinda like a modern version of the KKK. Get your facts straight next time you make an extreme argument or you risk getting owned by people who actually do know what they're talking about.
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Old 05-13-2004, 03:18 PM   #23
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That was me, btw ^
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Old 05-13-2004, 03:38 PM   #24
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just because he is jewish does not mean that he should get his head cut off.......i mean....jesus...this is just wrong...and justjuno i wouldnt nessasarily say that this is where the human race is "going" but where it has "been" because people in the middle ages had public decapitations....this isnt nearly the first decapitation.

That video didn't look fake to me....to be honest...i was kinda bored for the first 5 minutes....then when they started i was like holy shit....i mean the guy was on the floor screeming and he was totally defenceless...he wasnt drugged or anything...he was just thrown to the ground and decapitated with a crappy little knife....very...very...very...sad...

my deepest respects and prayers for him and his family

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Old 05-13-2004, 06:29 PM   #25
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I think the point was that public decapitations were done in the MIDDLE AGES. What year is it now?
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Old 05-13-2004, 09:57 PM   #26
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the fact that we havent improved much is the bad part
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:09 PM   #27
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I think the point was that public decapitations were done in the MIDDLE AGES. What year is it now?
Who says the Middle Ages (aka The Dark Age) are over. Remember that during the Dark Age, religion ruled.
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:20 PM   #28
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The video was horrible quality and I couldn't hardly tell what was happening...but god damn that was fucking horrible. That just pisses me off so much that I wanna go over there myself and blow the whole fucking country up myself.
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Old 05-14-2004, 09:08 PM   #29
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im extremely horrified at this video. i know its real.. and it makes me sick. i cant believe people would actually do this.. i hope that it never happens again.. i saw it just last night and i feel like throwing up still... it was just that scary to me. i have never seen such a display of umm.. just plain SICK behaviour.. i dont want to talk about this.. but i dont know how to get it off my mind and make me feel better again.. i told my mother i saw this.. and i still wish i had listened to my older brother when he said not to watch it. i am an idiot and i pray that no one else goes to watch that video. it is indeed tragic, traumatic, disgusting, dispicable.. and the list goes on. if anyone can speak to me about this and try to make me feel better.. it really would make me feel much better.
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Old 05-15-2004, 12:35 AM   #30
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Wow Fuman, where did you come up with half of the slanders about me? I have many friends, where in the heck did you get the idea that I'm some friendless racist fuck? Congratulations, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to that. I personally don't "buy into the media," otherwise I would believe 100% that it occured in such a horrific manner just because of treatment of Iraqis. I take the news with a grain of salt, as I know they often try to blow things out of proportion.
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Old 05-15-2004, 09:43 AM   #31
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Muhammed proclaimed somewhere, I can't remember where, to kill jews.

That may be so, but I know for a fact it also says in the Qu'ran that you must tolerate the people of the book, which refers to the torrah (the old testament). The people of the book refers to jews and christians. But like every other religious text, I wouldn't be suprised if there were contradictions for every pietous demand.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:43 PM   #32
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lol, yeah sorry about that Renmazuo, but the way you said it, you really just took a blatant and uneducated stab at the Muslim religion all together. It just really pissed me off that you think that one of the major religions in the world is all about killing people.
As far as the whole "you need friends" thing, your avatar just stuck out to me and so I used with my argument. ^^ Yeah sorry about that one.
But seriously now, Mohammed was the most influencial person in Islam. People take his word as a correct interpertation of the Quran. If you're trying to tell me that he told all the Muslims in the world to go off killing Jews... Sorry man, I read, write, and speak arabic and I've read up on quite a bit of scripture--I can tell you there is nowhere in the Quran or an accurate recorded saying of Mohammed that said to kill jews. Islam is actually a quite peaceful religion-it's just the extremists that distort everything that you see on the media. And that's unfortunately the media's job--to report on extreme happenings in the world. Because that's what sells.
Sorry about my past insults towards you, it's just that everything you said about Mohammed and Islam was totally wrong. That's all. My deepest apologies for any embarassment or anger I may have caused you.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:47 PM   #33
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Yeah that was me again, (^) sry I'm having sign-in troubles.
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:52 AM   #34
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Ok. first of all.. I haven't read any of the post on here except page one.. so don't give me any shit..
But I would just like to say, .. Yea.. I was right..

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FE22Ak03.html


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Old 05-27-2004, 10:04 AM   #35
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Just saw that it was fake, but to continue the topic:
The extremist Muslims believe in Jihad, "Holy War". They specifically believe that people who don't believe in Muhammed, "infidels", should be killed. The reason why the fanatics do suicide bombings is because they believe killing members of other religions will get them into heaven, so they figure that killing them right before they die will give them direct access into heaven.

I would put it this way, when people think of the Middle Ages, they think of the Dark Ages of the world. But that is not what it was. It was the dark age of Christianity, the period of time where public beheadings and other atrocities were commited. During that time, the Muslims were not nearly as horrible as the fanatic Muslims are today. They invented useful tools for explorations by boat, and created technologies that were helpful back in the era. Now, the fanatic Muslims are undergoing their own "Middle Ages", but this time, they have guns and bombs. We should hope that the terrorists don't get their hands on nuclear weapons.
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