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Old 09-28-2008, 12:03 AM   #61
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It's AAA'able, but to be honest I don't see anyone ever doing it.
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:51 AM   #62
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Default Re: Crowdpleaser Rank 2... again l,,l

I just calculated it, and the #1 score seems to be a clean 6 goods. I'm guessing the 3 boos in this score all came in the megatrill?

Very nice indeed, and thanks to gnr for explaining the difference between jacking and vibrating. Jacking tends to emphasize accuracy, and vibrating seems to be a more speed but less control sort of thing, at least for me.

As for the difference between Molto and CP, I'd like to offer my humble opinion that there's a big difference between jacking and trilling. Trills require you to keep both fingers involved at the same speed (and in 4 out of the 6 possible types of trills, both hands are used if you play in the traditional spread style). On the other hand, it might very well be the case that if he vibrated with both hands, one of them might prove faster than the other.
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Quite ironically I tried making a video of an AAA but I would a good in some random jump that would ruin the AAA lmao (I can AAA every part of the song but I'd get a random good somewhere)

Which is why I hate jumps in FFR because I get goods for no reason, I even listened to the keytaps and there was no reason why I should have gotten a good in the middle of the jumpjacks.
Okay, if you're used to jumps in SM, they're treated as a whole but in FFR they're treated as separate notes.
Jumps in SM do not give their judgment until you hit the last note of them, so playing SM unconsciously conditions you to be okay with galloping into jumps because as long as the last hit of them is on-time the whole thing is on-time.
Make sure you're not hitting part of jumps in FFR early.
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It's AAA'able, but to be honest I don't see anyone ever doing it.
I wrecked the trill so hard I bet you didn't get 2 goods on it lol
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:59 AM   #65
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the 64th ministaircase is also a tad tricky to aaa
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:27 PM   #66
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I think I had maybe like 2 Goods from the random burst/staircase area and maybe 4 in the trill
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the 64th ministaircase is also a tad tricky to aaa
Yeah I got 2 goods and a boo there ;_;
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:02 PM   #68
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Lol gj Dingle.
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Old 09-29-2008, 01:20 AM   #69
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wristjacking is jacking just using straight tapping with individual fingers or with an actual slight (or not so slight, as one would do for fast/long jacks) wrist-flicking motion. aka smashing your keyboard

vibrating is the tensing up of certain arm muscles to literally vibrate your hands on the keys. it is very soft and very fast. aka not smashing your keyboard or using the same kind of stamina as the entire rest of the song (read: even if your hands are worn out from crowdpleaser, your vibrating stamina should generally remain unaffected). aka the only way to clean sdg fc crowdpleaser

you can see where i'm confused, as you say you are saving energy and smashing your keyboard, things you'd do for wristjacking, but insist that you were in fact vibrating and acknowledging that that's the only way to score on the file
I WAS confused, but I'm not anymore, no need to explain. Here's what's going on:
I exaggerated (barely) the loudness of my keystrokes at the psycho trill, sounds like smashing to me, but that statement was before my understanding of the difference between vibrating/wrist-jacking. I never wrist-jack it, it's vibrating, but it's still pretty loud... you know how fast they have to be going xD

I've actually AAAd the psycho trill, but that was my first rank 2 achievement (yes... I got every imperfect hit in the random burst/staircase area before the trill D= the rest was a AAA). This time, I got a few goods and ALL three boos in the random burst/staircase area (which I have yet to AAA), a few goods in the psychotrill, and actually two goods in the slow one-handed trills winding down to the end of the song D= I was incredibly robbed of a 6-0-0-3 ;_;
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I WAS confused, but I'm not anymore, no need to explain. Here's what's going on:
I exaggerated (barely) the loudness of my keystrokes at the psycho trill, sounds like smashing to me, but that statement was before my understanding of the difference between vibrating/wrist-jacking. I never wrist-jack it, it's vibrating, but it's still pretty loud... you know how fast they have to be going xD

I've actually AAAd the psycho trill, but that was my first rank 2 achievement (yes... I got every imperfect hit in the random burst/staircase area before the trill D= the rest was a AAA). This time, I got a few goods and ALL three boos in the random burst/staircase area (which I have yet to AAA), a few goods in the psychotrill, and actually two goods in the slow one-handed trills winding down to the end of the song D= I was incredibly robbed of a 6-0-0-3 ;_;
Do you mean you AAA'd the 64th trill? If you did, you got no video evidence to back up your claim. Who cares if you "spent" all your energy on the trill, you can't just force yourself to do almost 15-16 keytaps a second just trying to smash your keyboard, it's claims like that which make people REALLY suspicious of double setup, so I'd recommend a video of you getting 2 goods or less on the trill (you don't need to beat your score and you can do bad on everything else, just the AAA on the 64th trill because that means you can AAA porco dio edit's 16th jacks and jack faster than Isaac which is really stupid). You're blatantly saying you can force yourself to do over 15 keytaps a second and yet not have enough stamina to mash stuff like death piano which is a lot slower. It's not that I'm mad that someone else can vibrate faster than me (Isaac) but I HAVE played a ton of jacking songs like mihc and one minutes edit and you can't just rush yourself to do 15-16 taps a second.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:27 PM   #71
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Do you mean you AAA'd the 64th trill? If you did, you got no video evidence to back up your claim. Who cares if you "spent" all your energy on the trill, you can't just force yourself to do almost 15-16 keytaps a second just trying to smash your keyboard, it's claims like that which make people REALLY suspicious of double setup, so I'd recommend a video of you getting 2 goods or less on the trill (you don't need to beat your score and you can do bad on everything else, just the AAA on the 64th trill because that means you can AAA porco dio edit's 16th jacks and jack faster than Isaac which is really stupid). You're blatantly saying you can force yourself to do over 15 keytaps a second and yet not have enough stamina to mash stuff like death piano which is a lot slower. It's not that I'm mad that someone else can vibrate faster than me (Isaac) but I HAVE played a ton of jacking songs like mihc and one minutes edit and you can't just rush yourself to do 15-16 taps a second.
I didn't "spend" all my energy on the trill, I saved up energy so I could handle the trill... you can't lose all your energy in one second, where did I say that? Also, we have a couple people here who say it's physically possible, and if you can do it with two goods, once again... it's possible. Speed and endurance are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, let go of Death Piano.

And maybe I'm wrong, I could have imagined the AAA, or maybe there were goods I didn't see, whatever the hell happened, it's not that big of a deal. Everyone knows this score is legit =)

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I'm skeptical because you said "no vibrating required, just smash your keyboard as hard as you can"
Where are you getting these quotes!?!? I never said that either.

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that means you can AAA porco dio edit's 16th jacks and jack faster than Isaac which is really stupid
....... Aren't YOU Isaac?
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I never said it was impossible to AAA, when did I say that?

Also, this is Isaac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-01Tmnayts
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Oh and by the way you said you don't need vibrating for crowdpleaser right here in this thread:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...77#post2209177
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Oh and by the way you said you don't need vibrating for crowdpleaser right here in this thread:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...77#post2209177
That was joke... are you serious? Didn't you read the rest of the comment? xD

And what do you mean by "faster than [[[me (Isaac)]]]", are you Isaac?
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Oh and by the way you said you don't need vibrating for crowdpleaser right here in this thread:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...77#post2209177
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Holy crap! Nice score Dingleberry
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Dossar, what does Jackhammer Madness have to do with Crowdpleaser? I mean, seriously. Nice score FD.
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Honestly, i think that this score is legit enough. It didn't even take you long to gain back your rank 2 on it.

Another thing, I know at least a few people on here who can get a least under 3 goods on the mega trill so i'm not that surprised about this score although a video would be better since some people are getting suspicious about the score.

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That was joke... are you serious? Didn't you read the rest of the comment? xD

And what do you mean by "faster than [[[me (Isaac)]]]", are you Isaac?
Right now I'm thinking did you read my comments? I clearly linked you to a video showing who Isaac was, and you're still asking if I'm Isaac.

Plus, I'm not saying rank 2 is impossible, but when Puppet was getting into the discussion about vibrating and how you shouldn't lose all your stamina I wanted to investigate a bit. I already think it's pretty legit, so don't think what I'm saying is trying to screw you over, I was just curious about what you did
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fuc sakes guys. if you want to prove legitimacy, get dingle to make a vid showing the screen, his hands, a clock, and the keyboard, with sound.
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