Another computer problem. Dammit.

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:15 PM

You guys sick of me asking for help with my crappy computers? Yeah, I'm sick of having to ask lol

Anyway, its not letting me on the internet (Im on my mom's). Its plugged into a hub, which is plugged into my wall. Its the exact way my mom's is set up. I have vista (horrid mistake, I need to downgrade) and it says that my pc is connected to an unknown network, and then its not connecting to the internet. It gives a little map that looks like this:

DAMIEN-PC ---- unknown network --x-- Internet

Ive tried messing with things on my mom's computer, Ive messed with the hub, and Ive tried repairing my connection after every single step Ive taken to try to fix this.

This has happened before, but I would just come on my mom's computer and remove a connection from the network bridge (whatever the hell that is) and then my computer would be good as new again. Now its just not connecting no matter what I do.

What confuses me even more is that its going Computer>Hub>Wall... My mom's computer should have absolutely nothing to do with my connection, should it?

Thanks for anyone who tries to help, and major mothereffing thanks to anyone who can fix this.

**emerald000** · 11-5-2009, 05:23 PM

What kind of Internet connection do you use? If you use dial-up or PPPoE, you need to enter extra information to get a connection. Otherwise, look if Vista isn't seeing any other networks. That unknown network might simply be your ethernet card being detected as a network (does that on my comp). If that still doesn't solve it, try resetting your router/modem/hub and installing Windows updates.

Izzy · 11-5-2009, 05:24 PM

So does your house have a Lan wired through the walls or what? What is the hub? If it is a router it doesn't make sense to me that each computer would be plugged into it's own router and then into the wall.. Which would need to go to a router.

fido123 · 11-5-2009, 05:26 PM

1) Press Windows Key + R
2) Enter 'cmd'
3) type 'ipconfig/all'
4) Type in your Default Gateway into a web browser

Tell us what happens.

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:28 PM

emerald - No, it cant find more networks, and I have broadband
Izzy - You plug this hub into the wall, and then you can plug a bunch of different ethernet cables into it, and it will give internet to them all
fido - I have no idea what a default gateway is

fido123 · 11-5-2009, 05:32 PM

It'll show up after you do steps 1-3. It's one of the many things that will pop up.

It'll probably be something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1

EDIT: Also try just plugging it through your enthernet port. It looks like a phone port but it has 8 thingies in there.

Dr Tran · 11-5-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FallenXxRaven

Izzy - You plug this hub into the wall, and then you can plug a bunch of different ethernet cables into it, and it will give internet to them all

by hub you mean router right

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:41 PM

Did it fido. It said 'Invalid adress'. And this seemed wierd to me. My gateway was 0.0.0.0 Sorta seems like that means theres nothing there, not that I would know.

EDIT: Tran - Possibly? Im just calling it what my grandpa did, cause he's like.. THE computer guru (His team put the first whole megabyte on a single harddrive, and they made the first writable CD) so, I believe whatever he says xD

MrRubix · 11-5-2009, 05:42 PM

What are your TCP IP settings? Right click your connection and go into the properties and check the TCP IP properties.

fido123 · 11-5-2009, 05:42 PM

That's the problem, your USB adapter thing isn't being read by your computer at all. Can you give me the name of this device?

EDIT: Rubix. He just did it in a different way using the method I showed him. The problem is defiantly the computer and the USB device not communicating.

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:48 PM

Rubix - The only thing with TCP IP in it I could find said 'NetBIOS over Tcpip Enabled [then there was another section, value], Yes (So its enabled).

**ninjaKIWI** · 11-5-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fido123

That's the problem, your USB adapter thing isn't being read by your computer at all. Can you give me the name of this device?

EDIT: Rubix. He just did it in a different way using the method I showed him. The problem is defiantly the computer and the USB device not communicating.

Where did he say anything about a USB device ?_?

fido123 · 11-5-2009, 05:51 PM

lol I read this wrong.

Where's the modem in your house? Are you in an apartment and you share internet?

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:53 PM

fido - The only thing I could think of to tell you about was my network adaptor. NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet. Also, I dunno if this would have anything to do with this, but one of my devices in Storage Controllers had that yellow ! on it. AC6G5YWY IDE Controller.

Lol okay, that works too xD. Its right on top of my mom's desk. I live in an apartment, but each is like a separate house. We have our own internet, the neighbors have absolutely nothing to do with this

fido123 · 11-5-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FallenXxRaven

fido - The only thing I could think of to tell you about was my network adaptor. NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet. Also, I dunno if this would have anything to do with this, but one of my devices in Storage Controllers had that yellow ! on it. AC6G5YWY IDE Controller.

The IDE controller is for hardrives from like 5 years ago so you're not missing out with that. In that command prompt I told you to do, what's your IPv4?

Izzy · 11-5-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FallenXxRaven

Izzy - You plug this hub into the wall, and then you can plug a bunch of

That would be called a router. So I'm assuming your computer and your mom's computer are close to each other?

I was picturing in my mind that they weren't near eachother and that you had 2 routers in 2 places in your house.

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 05:59 PM

IPv4 wasnt in the list of stuff that command brought up, but I knew where to find it. Its local. Also, if any of you think it'd be easier to contact me via IM than via forum, my AIM is exdeeLAWL

Izzy - Not close at all. Long-ass cord xD (Yeah, Ive been running upstairs and back down every time you guys tell me to do something. Its like a 15 second trip xD)

**ninjaKIWI** · 11-5-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

That would be called a router. So I'm assuming your computer and your mom's computer are close to each other?

I was picturing in my mind that they weren't near eachother and that you had 2 routers in 2 places in your house.

Because all ethernet cords are small right?

Oh wait I have a 50' one right here.

Izzy · 11-5-2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

Because all ethernet cords are small right?

Oh wait I have a 50' one right here.

I have a 50' cable to. I would just never use it as a permanent solution to connect to the internet across multiple rooms because it would looks very unappealing.

FallenXxRaven · 11-5-2009, 06:47 PM

Yeah, it aint pretty, but it gives me internet in my room, so hey! lol

11-5-2009, 05:15 PM	#1
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Another computer problem. Dammit. You guys sick of me asking for help with my crappy computers? Yeah, I'm sick of having to ask lol Anyway, its not letting me on the internet (Im on my mom's). Its plugged into a hub, which is plugged into my wall. Its the exact way my mom's is set up. I have vista (horrid mistake, I need to downgrade) and it says that my pc is connected to an unknown network, and then its not connecting to the internet. It gives a little map that looks like this: DAMIEN-PC ---- unknown network --x-- Internet Ive tried messing with things on my mom's computer, Ive messed with the hub, and Ive tried repairing my connection after every single step Ive taken to try to fix this. This has happened before, but I would just come on my mom's computer and remove a connection from the network bridge (whatever the hell that is) and then my computer would be good as new again. Now its just not connecting no matter what I do. What confuses me even more is that its going Computer>Hub>Wall... My mom's computer should have absolutely nothing to do with my connection, should it? Thanks for anyone who tries to help, and major mothereffing thanks to anyone who can fix this. __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

11-5-2009, 05:23 PM	#2
emerald000 the Mathemagician~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Quebec City Age: 33 Posts: 1,320	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. What kind of Internet connection do you use? If you use dial-up or PPPoE, you need to enter extra information to get a connection. Otherwise, look if Vista isn't seeing any other networks. That unknown network might simply be your ethernet card being detected as a network (does that on my comp). If that still doesn't solve it, try resetting your router/modem/hub and installing Windows updates.

11-5-2009, 05:24 PM	#3
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 33 Posts: 9,192	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. So does your house have a Lan wired through the walls or what? What is the hub? If it is a router it doesn't make sense to me that each computer would be plugged into it's own router and then into the wall.. Which would need to go to a router.

11-5-2009, 05:26 PM	#4
fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. 1) Press Windows Key + R 2) Enter 'cmd' 3) type 'ipconfig/all' 4) Type in your Default Gateway into a web browser Tell us what happens.

11-5-2009, 05:28 PM	#5
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. emerald - No, it cant find more networks, and I have broadband Izzy - You plug this hub into the wall, and then you can plug a bunch of different ethernet cables into it, and it will give internet to them all fido - I have no idea what a default gateway is __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

11-5-2009, 05:32 PM	#6
fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. It'll show up after you do steps 1-3. It's one of the many things that will pop up. It'll probably be something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 EDIT: Also try just plugging it through your enthernet port. It looks like a phone port but it has 8 thingies in there. Last edited by fido123; 11-5-2009 at 05:38 PM..

11-5-2009, 05:41 PM	#8
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. Did it fido. It said 'Invalid adress'. And this seemed wierd to me. My gateway was 0.0.0.0 Sorta seems like that means theres nothing there, not that I would know. EDIT: Tran - Possibly? Im just calling it what my grandpa did, cause he's like.. THE computer guru (His team put the first whole megabyte on a single harddrive, and they made the first writable CD) so, I believe whatever he says xD __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube Last edited by FallenXxRaven; 11-5-2009 at 05:43 PM..

11-5-2009, 05:42 PM	#9
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. What are your TCP IP settings? Right click your connection and go into the properties and check the TCP IP properties. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

11-5-2009, 05:48 PM	#11
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. Rubix - The only thing with TCP IP in it I could find said 'NetBIOS over Tcpip Enabled [then there was another section, value], Yes (So its enabled). __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

11-5-2009, 05:51 PM	#13
fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. lol I read this wrong. Where's the modem in your house? Are you in an apartment and you share internet?

11-5-2009, 05:53 PM	#14
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. fido - The only thing I could think of to tell you about was my network adaptor. NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet. Also, I dunno if this would have anything to do with this, but one of my devices in Storage Controllers had that yellow ! on it. AC6G5YWY IDE Controller. Lol okay, that works too xD. Its right on top of my mom's desk. I live in an apartment, but each is like a separate house. We have our own internet, the neighbors have absolutely nothing to do with this __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

11-5-2009, 05:59 PM	#17
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. IPv4 wasnt in the list of stuff that command brought up, but I knew where to find it. Its local. Also, if any of you think it'd be easier to contact me via IM than via forum, my AIM is exdeeLAWL Izzy - Not close at all. Long-ass cord xD (Yeah, Ive been running upstairs and back down every time you guys tell me to do something. Its like a 15 second trip xD) __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

11-5-2009, 06:47 PM	#20
FallenXxRaven FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In Panic4Me's closet. Posts: 380	Re: Another computer problem. Dammit. Yeah, it aint pretty, but it gives me internet in my room, so hey! lol __________________ Chris Huntress 1:37 pm I aaa'd vROFL without any lube

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