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So I realized I can't continue to hold a grudge against DBP for withholding too much and not leaving a "suspicions" list or any major summary post of critical info here before he died if I'm in the same boat myself and have not been transparent in thread myself for a fair bit of time.

At this point, there are a few of the world's worst kept secrets floating around, which I think invariably hurts town as the game of telephone continues. With that in mind, I want to lay down my thought process here without damaging said efforts too much.

:herewego:

This game is broken. It has been broken from the moment we discovered full role PMs were shareable out of thread. At this point, I think it's fair to assume that every wolf and anti-town third party has prepared a sufficiently altered role PM in efforts to avoid this, but scrutiny of how roles interact with each other would still make a mass PM claim almost certainly result in a town victory. It is only out of a desire to prevent this game from becoming a boring clusterfuck of mechanical+flavor analyses (...hmmm) that we aren't doing this. That, and some sort of vestigial pride.

With that said, game still seems to be rather heavily townsided. At this stage, it seems to me that a mechanical lynchpool still wins game 99.9% of the time, with that 0.1% only reserved in case of insane roles that have never been heard of and have yet to appear.

As of right now, there are 10 players left in this game, including me. In order to not completely pierce the veil, I won't fully elaborate publicly on most of these placements. If you'd like more info, *please* reach out to me on discord so we can chat a bit.

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{Townie}
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MML I think we should definitely lynch today. I don't buy his claimed win condition for a second, and that translates to his alignment. I think what happened was, he didn't realize it was a role madness game when asked to out by DBP, and so claimed VT. That original claim of VT was obviously incongruent with game, and pressure by key players forced him to have to come up with something else. To cover his lie without drawing the lynch, he couldn't claim a town role. This left him with claiming 3p as the only viable option. As there was already a 3p claim with a wincon that did not conflict with town, he had to make his work without seeming too much like the other 3p, resulting in his claim that he simply "has to outlive the protagonists". Without angleshooting, the probability that such a role exists with no supporting killing power or namekilling power is nil.

This all leads me to believe that either one of two things are true:
(A) MML is a third party with either killing or name killing ability (I lean towards namekilling for a lot of reasons having to do with OP and balance of the setup)
or
(B) MML is a wolf who fakeclaimed 3p to try to avoid drawing a lynch out of his claim.

In either case, letting him live another phase would be stupid and potentially could be very harmful.
Please excuse any formatting or grammar errors, I'm at work trying to wrap up this project I've poured seven months of 60-70 hour weeks into, and it's finally coming to a close. Like I said, please please talk to me on discord if you want reasons for placement of anyone other than MML.
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So I realized I can't continue to hold a grudge against DBP for withholding too much and not leaving a "suspicions" list or any major summary post of critical info here before he died if I'm in the same boat myself and have not been transparent in thread myself for a fair bit of time.

At this point, there are a few of the world's worst kept secrets floating around, which I think invariably hurts town as the game of telephone continues. With that in mind, I want to lay down my thought process here without damaging said efforts too much.

:herewego:

This game is broken. It has been broken from the moment we discovered full role PMs were shareable out of thread. At this point, I think it's fair to assume that every wolf and anti-town third party has prepared a sufficiently altered role PM in efforts to avoid this, but scrutiny of how roles interact with each other would still make a mass PM claim almost certainly result in a town victory. It is only out of a desire to prevent this game from becoming a boring clusterfuck of mechanical+flavor analyses (...hmmm) that we aren't doing this. That, and some sort of vestigial pride.

With that said, game still seems to be rather heavily townsided. At this stage, it seems to me that a mechanical lynchpool still wins game 99.9% of the time, with that 0.1% only reserved in case of insane roles that have never been heard of and have yet to appear.

As of right now, there are 10 players left in this game, including me. In order to not completely pierce the veil, I won't fully elaborate publicly on most of these placements. If you'd like more info, *please* reach out to me on discord so we can chat a bit.

{Never Lynch}
Hakulyte
Funnygurl555
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{Townie}
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{Lynch Pool}
Xelicopter
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Pozzai

{Policy Lynch}
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MML I think we should definitely lynch today. I don't buy his claimed win condition for a second, and that translates to his alignment. I think what happened was, he didn't realize it was a role madness game when asked to out by DBP, and so claimed VT. That original claim of VT was obviously incongruent with game, and pressure by key players forced him to have to come up with something else. To cover his lie without drawing the lynch, he couldn't claim a town role. This left him with claiming 3p as the only viable option. As there was already a 3p claim with a wincon that did not conflict with town, he had to make his work without seeming too much like the other 3p, resulting in his claim that he simply "has to outlive the protagonists". Without angleshooting, the probability that such a role exists with no supporting killing power or namekilling power is nil.

This all leads me to believe that either one of two things are true:
(A) MML is a third party with either killing or name killing ability (I lean towards namekilling for a lot of reasons having to do with OP and balance of the setup)
or
(B) MML is a wolf who fakeclaimed 3p to try to avoid drawing a lynch out of his claim.

In either case, letting him live another phase would be stupid and potentially could be very harmful.
Please excuse any formatting or grammar errors, I'm at work trying to wrap up this project I've poured seven months of 60-70 hour weeks into, and it's finally coming to a close. Like I said, please please talk to me on discord if you want reasons for placement of anyone other than MML.
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I'M NOT GETTING LYNCHED, EVER.

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Legit my vote is literally whatever Haku tells me to vote.

Might as well quote that because I don't see myself ever typing that sentence again
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Might as well quote that because I don't see myself ever typing that sentence again
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I'M NOT GETTING LYNCHED, EVER.

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We lynch this guy. -shrugs-
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DO IT, YOU WON'T.

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flashflash account (2)
Voted by: Wineandbread, thesunfan

MixMasterLar (1)
Voted by: ShadoWolfe

Pozzai (1)
Voted by: flashflash account

Xelicopter (1)
Voted by: MixMasterLar



Vote history
thesunfan -> flashflash account
thesunfan -> MixMasterLar
flashflash account -> thesunfan
Wineandbread -> flashflash account
ShadoWolfe -> MixMasterLar
flashflash account -> Pozzai
thesunfan -> MixMasterLar
thesunfan -> Xelicopter
thesunfan -> flashflash account
MixMasterLar -> Xelicopter

Not voting
mellon_collie
Pozzai
Hakulyte
Funnygurl555
Xelicopter


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gold stinger -> Charu
Pozzai -> Duk3star
Funnygurl555 -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> _Zenith_
ShadoWolfe -> the sun fan
the sun fan -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> flashflash account
Xelicopter -> Charu
Charu -> MixMasterLar
the sun fan -> MixMasterLar
DaBackpack -> MixMasterLar
the sun fan -> DaBackpack
Charu -> ShadoWolfe
ShadoWolfe -> Charu
Hakulyte -> the sun fan
MixMasterLar -> mellon_collie
Hakulyte -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> mellon_collie
Wineandbread -> _Zenith_
Pozzai -> DaBackpack
the sun fan -> mellon_collie
Pozzai -> ShadoWolfe
flashflash account -> Funnygurl555
ShadoWolfe -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> Unvote
MixMasterLar -> DaBackpack
Wineandbread -> gold stinger
Funnygurl555 -> DaBackpack
Charu -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> DaBackpack
the sun fan -> gold stinger
DaBackpack -> _Zenith_
DaBackpack -> gold stinger
mellon_collie -> _Zenith_
ShadoWolfe -> DaBackpack
Xelicopter -> Unvote
Pozzai -> gold stinger
ShadoWolfe -> _Zenith_
Funnygurl555 -> gold stinger
gold stinger -> DaBackpack
MixMasterLar -> mellon_collie
Charu -> _Zenith_
Pozzai -> _Zenith_
DaBackpack -> _Zenith_


Unvote
Hakulyte
Xelicopter

Not voting
Duk3star
_Zenith_


Vote history
Funnygurl555 -> Xelicopter
Funnygurl555 -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> Xelicopter
the sun fan -> Pozzai
ShadoWolfe -> DaBackpack
ShadoWolfe -> the sun fan
ShadoWolfe -> Unvote
Charu -> Duk3star
Hakulyte -> Duk3star
the sun fan -> Duk3star
Funnygurl555 -> Duk3star
flashflash account -> Funnygurl555
Duk3star -> Charu
Xelicopter -> Duk3star
ShadoWolfe -> Duk3star
mellon_collie -> Duk3star

Not voting
DaBackpack
MixMasterLar
Pozzai
Wineandbread

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fuck the games

I said I'm never getting lynched because I literally prevent deaths nerds
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Here's the votecount, I'm Steve Rogers:


Xelicopter (3)
Voted by: MixMasterLar, ShadoWolfe, flashflash account

flashflash account (2)
Voted by: Wineandbread, thesunfan



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thesunfan -> flashflash account
thesunfan -> MixMasterLar
flashflash account -> thesunfan
Wineandbread -> flashflash account
ShadoWolfe -> MixMasterLar
flashflash account -> Pozzai
thesunfan -> MixMasterLar
thesunfan -> Xelicopter
thesunfan -> flashflash account
MixMasterLar -> Xelicopter
ShadoWolfe -> Xelicopter
flashflash account -> Xelicopter

Not voting
mellon_collie
Pozzai
Hakulyte
Funnygurl555
Xelicopter


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gold stinger -> Charu
Pozzai -> Duk3star
Funnygurl555 -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> _Zenith_
ShadoWolfe -> the sun fan
the sun fan -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> flashflash account
Xelicopter -> Charu
Charu -> MixMasterLar
the sun fan -> MixMasterLar
DaBackpack -> MixMasterLar
the sun fan -> DaBackpack
Charu -> ShadoWolfe
ShadoWolfe -> Charu
Hakulyte -> the sun fan
MixMasterLar -> mellon_collie
Hakulyte -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> mellon_collie
Wineandbread -> _Zenith_
Pozzai -> DaBackpack
the sun fan -> mellon_collie
Pozzai -> ShadoWolfe
flashflash account -> Funnygurl555
ShadoWolfe -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> Unvote
MixMasterLar -> DaBackpack
Wineandbread -> gold stinger
Funnygurl555 -> DaBackpack
Charu -> gold stinger
Xelicopter -> DaBackpack
the sun fan -> gold stinger
DaBackpack -> _Zenith_
DaBackpack -> gold stinger
mellon_collie -> _Zenith_
ShadoWolfe -> DaBackpack
Xelicopter -> Unvote
Pozzai -> gold stinger
ShadoWolfe -> _Zenith_
Funnygurl555 -> gold stinger
gold stinger -> DaBackpack
MixMasterLar -> mellon_collie
Charu -> _Zenith_
Pozzai -> _Zenith_
DaBackpack -> _Zenith_


Unvote
Hakulyte
Xelicopter

Not voting
Duk3star
_Zenith_


Vote history
Funnygurl555 -> Xelicopter
Funnygurl555 -> Unvote
Funnygurl555 -> Xelicopter
the sun fan -> Pozzai
ShadoWolfe -> DaBackpack
ShadoWolfe -> the sun fan
ShadoWolfe -> Unvote
Charu -> Duk3star
Hakulyte -> Duk3star
the sun fan -> Duk3star
Funnygurl555 -> Duk3star
flashflash account -> Funnygurl555
Duk3star -> Charu
Xelicopter -> Duk3star
ShadoWolfe -> Duk3star
mellon_collie -> Duk3star

Not voting
DaBackpack
MixMasterLar
Pozzai
Wineandbread

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