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[SubaruPoptart]

I should've cut the second graph out, I'm talking about the top graph.

[SubaruPoptart]

So since it just happened what happens if you post in the wrong game

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I'm not deleting it until I get a clear consensus on what happens but goddamn that's a hidden struggle that I'mma have to figure out cuz fuck

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I'm not deleting it until I get a clear consensus on what happens but goddamn that's a hidden struggle that I'mma have to figure out cuz fuck

Well not "deleting" it but whatever happens to it afterward y'know?

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@Shadow_God_10

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

I don't give a flying fuck if I'm scum read for pausing to.teach the newer players what's going on. As long as I'm around, I'll try my best to make them interact with us via ootc or this damn thread or the next

Yeah I'm of this same sentiment. ESPECIALLY this game.

[SubaruPoptart]

@SubaruPoptart Dumbass

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

@123kappa3

Raeko I wanna say is the rabbit lady in the bottom right of the yellow. Roundbox is the dude drinking the biggest glass of iced tea I've ever seen. It's not confusing if you pay attention.

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@DaBackpack

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

The mirror game will only be GROWING after this phase. Our game will shrink, theirs will grow. (Everyone who dies in this game gets sent there.)

The mirror game only has 4 players in it now. This is currently the state of the game that gives us the MOST opportunity to gain information.

Treat this as a logic puzzle.

Currently, let's assume that the mirror game is only townies right now. sunfan made a post saying that "the game is over", because that game has zero wolves in it.

Now, fast-forward to TOMORROW. New people will be sent to the mirror game. If sunfan makes a post saying that the "game is over" still, then those new people are townies too.

BUT, if the mirror game becomes "NOT over", then we can mathematically establish that AT LEAST ONE of the new mirror players is a wolf.

Please think of the game like this. It is currently the only tool we have for reasoning.

This is good to know. The only issue I have with this is that the OP says "Town OR Mafia has lost" so we're not quite sure how many town/wolves there are here. I would like to assume that goldstinger isn't a wolf because of his comments about his neighbor, and I would also like to assume that logman wasn't a wolf due to being my neighbor. That just leaves blind as a question mark fmpov.

[SubaruPoptart]

@DaBackpack

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

yeah, there's some discussion in the discord about this iirc

sunfan often has fucked-up, complicated setup ideas. but they are always grounded in the spirit of the game. I don't really know how to describe it, but I want to say that despite how crazy this game looks, he would not create an arbitrary bastard game. I feel like the design choices he's made are deliberate and calculated.

they might be contrived and the end result might be chaotic nonsense, but in sunfan's mind, this is still a game of TWG

Is it allowed to cite ootc stuff in thread? I feel this was mentioned already but I can't think of where to possibly find it

[SubaruPoptart]

@mcdaddio

Originally Posted by mcdaddio

I really hope its only townies because we are going to have to play a lot of calculated defensive if there are 2 or 3 wolves in that game (I highly doubt there are 3 wolves unless we are all amazing shots but the current status of the other game means that it is possible)

That would absolutely be worst-case scenario, but that got me thinking. If we send all the wolves here (assuming there's not a second level of hell past this), and there's all town in the other game, wouldn't that mean technically nobody "loses"? Wolves would win in the mirror world, town would win in the regular world. Parity would be achieved in both worlds.

[SubaruPoptart]

@DaBackpack

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

idk if this is something we need to worry about

the other game is "over" but is still running. that is, TWG 200 is still going. I don't think the parity of each thread independently is what matters here. It's the TOTAL parity.

If the total number of wolves in both threads is equal to the total number of townies, THEN we lose. (You aren't "dead" until you get voted out in the mirror world.)

The really important thing here is that no-kill is off. Theoretically, if every single player in the second thread is a wolf, they are still forced to vote out a wolf.

I can't think of any scenario in which we are absolutely fucked unless we, you know, play TWG badly. So idk if defensive strategy is needed here

OK yeah that definitely solves that concern I had. I was worried that wolves that were sent here could just dunk any town that came in.

[SubaruPoptart]

@Charu

Originally Posted by Charu

I will reiterate that a proper phase has not started in the mirror game.

If that's the case I'mma pause, but at the same time we haven't been told off for posting.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

OOTC: On on Odd-Numbered nights and every third day, beginning with day 1 (The game begins on Day 0). Off on all other phases.
Nightchat: Outside of thread only during appropriate times.
Wolfchat: 24/7
Cardflips: Color-only
KitB: On
No lynch: Off
No kill: Off
Insta: On

Phases will always revolve around 10:00 PM Central (Server) Time. Day Phases will be 48 hours except in case of insta, Night Phases will be 24 hours always, focused around 10:00 PM Server time.

But also this: it appears as if these phases revolve around y'all's phases. I'm inferring that because this thread exists at all, it's chill to post. If this game's phases haven't truly started yet and they're staggered due to either sunfan being sunfan or some other reasons that would be kinda fucked. Gonna pause regardless.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

The biggest issue I have with this game right now is that Logman isn't even in this game. Which means maybe if you get lynched you don't get sent to purgatory??? Or there's A HIDDEN FUCKING THIRD GAME FOR PEOPLE WHO GOT LYNCHED and if this is the case I'm done

Logman is in this game and he is in the same OOTC on Discord as the rest of us what r u smoking

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@fatfuck42

Originally Posted by fatfuck42

Not sure if this is proper etiquette or not, but if the dead crew is down for it I think they should try to insta logman at some point in the phase. That way we can figure out if they can actually vote people out or not, and if they CAN vote someone out whether we'll finally get that sweet sweet cardflip. And out of the four players in that game, a flip on logman would go the furthest w/r/t wagonomics.

It would not be proper etiquette but tbh it might be the best move we have. I'd like to learn a bit more about blind before resorting to something like that, though.

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Logman is in this game and he is in the same OOTC on Discord as the rest of us what r u smoking

I was on something cuz I somehow skipped over man's name but I figured that out sometime on the 2nd page

[SubaruPoptart]

@Xiz

Originally Posted by Xiz

@subaru

I got rolled VT in a bastard game. That’s the most bastard thing sunfan can do to me.

I think VT is the most dangerous one because you gotta use your brain instead of being able to use mechanics 'n such. Brains are pretty crazy things y'know

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@DaBackpack

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Yeah... but their game is "continuing." Someone used this terminology earlier, but it looks like their game will be playing in reverse, sort of. Once their game state becomes "not ended", i would expect to see proper phases.

@Gold Stinger
Are you guys supposed to lynch somebody today? Are you even ABLE to?

Yeah, we have 48 hours to decide a lynch. Set to resolve at the same time your day phase ends currently. I could send a vote out no problem, but there's only 4 players, so a wrong vote anywhere here could mean reaching insta very quickly.

Posted this to wrong thread initially don't kill me, this is confusing.

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@DaBackpack

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

*no-lynch and no-kill are off. point still stands

Insta is on though lmao. Imagine de-syncing the threads because there's an insta in one of them.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

@DaBackpack


This is good to know. The only issue I have with this is that the OP says "Town OR Mafia has lost" so we're not quite sure how many town/wolves there are here. I would like to assume that goldstinger isn't a wolf because of his comments about his neighbor, and I would also like to assume that logman wasn't a wolf due to being my neighbor. That just leaves blind as a question mark fmpov.

I don't think blind is likely a wolf, given that their response in regards to why they died were focused on what they posted in-thread vs what they may have shared in their neighborhood. I would also like to know more about blind's conversation with their neighborhood buddy and why they believe they treated it as 'weary' of them.

[gold stinger]

We're starting to get to a point where we can just figure out neighborhoods based on proximity of the players on the graph so we might as well come out and just say who is our neighborhood partners given the information on the table right now.

My neighborhood partner is Reuben.

SubaruPoptart's partner is Logman.

Considering the graph spread and how people are going to get matched up based on proximity (since everyone dead & involved here are somewhat close to one another):

I'm pretty comfortable with saying that blindreper's partner is Celery.


Here's a mock graph coming to that conclusion:

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Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

@fatfuck42



It would not be proper etiquette but tbh it might be the best move we have. I'd like to learn a bit more about blind before resorting to something like that, though.

Im not sure if it's entirely a good idea, but people were talking about hard claiming. I told my neighbor, and they weren't sure to believe or not.
I'm a seeker. I have to post once a day to stay near others and select a person who posted in that day to follow at night and see if they make an action. I chose Xiz after discussing it with my neighbor. I didn't get a read because I "died"