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Non-town aligned 3p, I should clarify.
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:29 PM   #3082
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though the "where the fuck is the wolf kill?" argument is relatively strong.
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no, just whoever i protect i can do the key next night phase

sunfan can you explain the levels lying at all i don't know if that was ever clarified
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I want sunfan to out his level 3 but I feel like that won't happen.
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and yeah, the thing is that the only nightkill on n1 being mellon from antori kinda implies that there was at least some saving mechanic going out.
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and you know, wincon would be really nice too but at this point I'm getting greedy.
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Dbp is sk and didn't nk because it's dbp
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Devonin you got some splannin' to do
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I don't think this clears you AT ALL.
I'm not saying that we KNOW he successfully saved me

I'm saying that it sure does look that way because no one else died n1 and we also are led to believe that only antori targeted raeko

without an alternate world, I don't see how that's not what happened
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I was worried someone might know I wasn't able to perform any abilities; I can only do that at lvl 3

It covered an extra base, but I didnt think it would matter much
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*whatever*
I'm really in a "kill sunfan just so I don't have to deal with him" mood
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Okay I'm just waking up. I'll give everything a proper read in a few minutes
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Do we kill him even if he is 3p? That's the question.
He's proven willing to lie, to deliberately make us kill someone who could almost certainly be town, in the name of his wincon. I think yes, at this point, even if he's 3p we want to seriously consider killing him. I'm certainly willing to consider that he's pulling some kind of bre'r rabbit shit with suddenly hard town claiming Daikyi and I have as little faith in what he says now as I had in Antori. Even if sunfan can win with town, if he's going to throw town under the bus to get there, I don't want to let him.

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though the "where the fuck is the wolf kill?" argument is relatively strong.
Oh for sure. I'm absolutely willing to believe that a wolf kill got blocked in some fashion, but sunfan was using Daikyi's having a guarding ability as -proof- that it was him who got the kill on him and got saved to push a hard "Therefore I'm anti-wolf" narrative, but Daikyi didn't need to save anybody, just target literally anybody and that was all he had to do. Could it be the case that the night kill was on sunfan and Daikyi blocked it? Sure. Is it even remotely proven? Even daikyi was doubting whether sunfan was actually worth keeping alive and he's the one who put the guarding action on him.

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no, just whoever i protect i can do the key next night phase

sunfan can you explain the levels lying at all i don't know if that was ever clarified
Though in his defense here, he said he started at level 1 and was now level 3. You were told "He has three levels he can earn and he's on the second" You're taking that to mean "he is level 2" but if he is on "the second of the three levels he can gain" and started at 1, he'd be level 3 now on his way to level 4, the third level he can gain.

Though by 'in his defense' I mean 'to explain the confusion' and not actually to defend him. This whole thing is extremely rubbing me the wrong way.

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and yeah, the thing is that the only nightkill on n1 being mellon from antori kinda implies that there was at least some saving mechanic going out.
For sure. Which could mean there's another person or people who can block, or could mean somebody had a bulletproof vest that got soaked up, or X I Z M E C H A N I C S, and while it lends some strength to sunfan's narrative, what it doesn't do is -actually hard prove he's somebody wolves want to kill-
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he's level 2
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He's proven willing to lie, to deliberately make us kill someone who could almost certainly be town, in the name of his wincon. I think yes, at this point, even if he's 3p we want to seriously consider killing him. I'm certainly willing to consider that he's pulling some kind of bre'r rabbit shit with suddenly hard town claiming Daikyi and I have as little faith in what he says now as I had in Antori. Even if sunfan can win with town, if he's going to throw town under the bus to get there, I don't want to let him.
Pretty much my thinking right now. I'd give him a chance to explain himself but I'm assuming a satisfactory explanation is pretty counter to him winning and isn't going to happen.
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Like, the narrative is changing from both directions as each one decides to be a little more specific about what they said and the other one adjusts accordingly. This whole thing is going to give me an aneurysm.

I'm going to play some WoW and wait until everybody's got the whole story straight and then probably still want to lynch sunfan for being willing to fake a red seering.
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That sounds like you still have something against dai which is frankly ridiculous.
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I mean imo killing dai was never even mechanically correct because sunfan claimed his levels and so lynching both, sunfan first would have been a better so you don't get fucked by sunfan levels. We're past that though.
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