Disregard Index AAA - Page 10

**YoshL** · 11-25-2013, 10:59 PM

cool ok that's all cleared up

dAnceguy117 · 11-25-2013, 11:11 PM

don't know about the rest of y'all, but it's 2013 and

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Originally Posted by L.B.D.D

its hard to care too much about a game with population 150

so I like to assume innocent unless proven guilty. haha. incredible stuff, VerTex.

personally, I think the best way to sort out the eternal "Is It Legit??" question would just be to meet up in person. there are enough people in the FFR/SM communities to live within close proximity and vouch for someone.

**Oni-Paranoia** · 11-25-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

@ editing certain files: hence why I said to show everything in every spot that it can be edited in all in a single video.

Would this include reopening SM under that specific folder or checking the properties on the shortcut to make sure it is opening the executable that is using said untouched files?

geek · 11-25-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

personally, I think the best way to sort out the eternal "Is It Legit??" question would just be to meet up in person. there are enough people in the FFR/SM communities to live within close proximity and vouch for someone.

I have been saying this forever. I wish people cared enough to do this more often.

**Kekeb** · 11-25-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate

fukken amateur shit, man

dem flashbacks

**Reincarnate** · 11-25-2013, 11:31 PM

Okay so more seriously:

Watched the video, seems legit to me tbh

If one wished to be rigorous, though:

As someone who spent a great deal of time (towards the end of my FFR/SM run) trying to make convincing hacks, I can say this:

1. It is possible to completely fool people even when you're playing live
2. It is possible to fake your .inis in every way, shape, and form
3. It is possible to haxxor your metrics to death and have everything nice and hidden (autoplay display texts, judge settings, whatever). It's not hard to edit the display of SM.

The things that will fuck you up (when you're playing live) if you're cheating:

1. Play optimally, and then take your hands off the keyboard for a split second, put them back on, continue playing optimally. Possible to fake, but it's tedious, annoying, and easy to catch, especially if you do it multiple times in one tough song. You're bound to fuck up at least once.

2. Play a file that has a huge variety to it. As in, a file that has easy MA fodder, and then parts that should fuck you up a little, and then back to MA fodder again, etc. Uneven PA distributions are the goal, here. This is actually possible to cheat, but it requires a lot of fancy stats shit and frankly I don't think most people would go through the trouble.

3. Play something on SM, then halfway through, say fuck it and switch to an FFR tab and play something there instead.

L.B.D.D · 11-26-2013, 12:09 AM

professor has spokken

justin_ator · 11-26-2013, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

personally, I think the best way to sort out the eternal "Is It Legit??" question would just be to meet up in person. there are enough people in the FFR/SM communities to live within close proximity and vouch for someone.

Alright, you gonna volunteer to come vouch for me in Fairbanks, AK?

**EAGAMES** · 11-26-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_ator

Alright, you gonna volunteer to come vouch for me in Fairbanks, AK?

Do you go to the hot springs frequently? They are awesome.

**iCeCuBEz v2** · 11-26-2013, 03:28 AM

i love threads like these

**Ohaider** · 11-26-2013, 05:35 AM

nice score
musta cheated

dAnceguy117 · 11-26-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by justin_ator

Alright, you gonna volunteer to come vouch for me in Fairbanks, AK?

nah, but I would bet you a large sum of money that someone on FFR or smo.net or r21freak lives within comfortable driving distance of you. they can verify your Disregard AAA

**Mollocephalus** · 11-26-2013, 09:07 AM

stepmania score legitimacy commitee has to be instituted guys

choof · 11-26-2013, 11:41 AM

okay that "mindblock" part and the trills are super iffy in the slo-mo vid

but I'm beginning to not care lol

**Fission** · 11-26-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider

nice score

lol huge understatement

EtienneSM · 11-26-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by choof

okay that "mindblock" part and the trills are super iffy in the slo-mo vid

but I'm beginning to not care lol

Lol, good. We don't need you to care.

**reptile3141** · 11-26-2013, 01:30 PM

choof · 11-26-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EtienneSM

Lol, good. We don't need you to care.

salty

Izzy · 11-26-2013, 01:56 PM

There is no way I can believe something like this without seeing it in person. Although I think it is humanly possible it is still hard to believe. I was able to AAA 290 bpm 16ths, but for some reason 300 bpm just alluded me. There was just some kind of physical boundary between 290 and 300 that I could never pass. It's only a 10 bpm difference, it should be possible for someone with more physical capabilities.

**rCaliberGX** · 11-26-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by izzy

there is no way i can believe something like this without seeing it in person. Although i think it is humanly possible it is still hard to believe. I was able to aaa 290 bpm 16ths, but for some reason 300 bpm just alluded me. There was just some kind of physical boundary between 290 and 300 that i could never pass. It's only a 10 bpm difference, it should be possible for someone with more physical capabilities.

THRESHOLD
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edit: replace 290 bpm 16ths with 230 bpm 16ths and you have me playing index

11-25-2013, 11:31 PM	#186
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Disregard Index AAA Okay so more seriously: Watched the video, seems legit to me tbh If one wished to be rigorous, though: As someone who spent a great deal of time (towards the end of my FFR/SM run) trying to make convincing hacks, I can say this: 1. It is possible to completely fool people even when you're playing live 2. It is possible to fake your .inis in every way, shape, and form 3. It is possible to haxxor your metrics to death and have everything nice and hidden (autoplay display texts, judge settings, whatever). It's not hard to edit the display of SM. The things that will fuck you up (when you're playing live) if you're cheating: 1. Play optimally, and then take your hands off the keyboard for a split second, put them back on, continue playing optimally. Possible to fake, but it's tedious, annoying, and easy to catch, especially if you do it multiple times in one tough song. You're bound to fuck up at least once. 2. Play a file that has a huge variety to it. As in, a file that has easy MA fodder, and then parts that should fuck you up a little, and then back to MA fodder again, etc. Uneven PA distributions are the goal, here. This is actually possible to cheat, but it requires a lot of fancy stats shit and frankly I don't think most people would go through the trouble. 3. Play something on SM, then halfway through, say fuck it and switch to an FFR tab and play something there instead.

11-26-2013, 12:09 AM	#187
L.B.D.D FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 2,949	Re: Disregard Index AAA professor has spokken

11-26-2013, 03:28 AM	#190
iCeCuBEz v2 XFD Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Connecticut Age: 33 Posts: 4,924	Re: Disregard Index AAA i love threads like these

11-26-2013, 05:35 AM	#191
Ohaider FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 2,893	Re: Disregard Index AAA nice score musta cheated

11-26-2013, 09:07 AM	#193
Mollocephalus Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Italy Age: 35 Posts: 2,600	Re: Disregard Index AAA stepmania score legitimacy commitee has to be instituted guys __________________

11-26-2013, 11:41 AM	#194
choof Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 8,563	Re: Disregard Index AAA okay that "mindblock" part and the trills are super iffy in the slo-mo vid but I'm beginning to not care lol

11-26-2013, 01:56 PM	#199
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 34 Posts: 9,192	Re: Disregard Index AAA There is no way I can believe something like this without seeing it in person. Although I think it is humanly possible it is still hard to believe. I was able to AAA 290 bpm 16ths, but for some reason 300 bpm just alluded me. There was just some kind of physical boundary between 290 and 300 that I could never pass. It's only a 10 bpm difference, it should be possible for someone with more physical capabilities.

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