Who is the best rhythm gamer you've seen in your rhythm gaming career?

[Dynam0]

omg I forgot how aids O2Jam looks in terms of reading...argh it looks so hard. I guess fraps/screen capture recordings aren't exactly viewer friendly but w.e

That ABCD guy looks pretty insane, is it a general consensus among top bms duders that he is miles ahead of everyone? female/amy used to tell me about ridic DJMax/O2 players that made IIDX players look silly but I honestly cannot tell the difference...it's like comparing apples to oranges for me

[choof]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Dossar's 8-0-0-1 on Death Piano makes it feel like no one is even close to him on consistency and overall skills.

rubix AAA'd dp
egomaniacircus AAA'd rato

dossar hasn't been relevant since 2009

[choof]

CO2Jam

hold your breath as you hold your notes

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by choof

rubix AAA'd dp
egomaniacircus AAA'd rato

dossar hasn't been relevant since 2009

I didn't actually AAA dp

real score was pretty close though

[SCWolf]

Originally Posted by choof

hold your breath as you hold your notes

Not an exaggeration

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by SCWolf

This is an example of one really good player from Korea.

For anyone who hasn't played O2 before, the holds are timed. If you let go early or late, you miss. There's no grey area.

gimmick or not this was fun to watch

[leonid]

Originally Posted by SCWolf

Not sure if I'm missing some videos here, but there are some Korean O2Mania players that are much more impressive than this guy. Not to say he's not impressive, he's nuts, but the holds in O2 are literally fucked up ridiculous.

Someone mentioned 14 key files though and I'm interested. I'm not being sarcastic about any of this I'm just seriously feeling like I'm missing something.

I said no contest. That's also considering o2jam as well, I'm fully aware of those players.

[linky123456]

Originally Posted by Tayfun

Blue Mystic

That guy was a monster. He is still ranked 9 on groovestats for ITG 1 and 2 even though he hasn't uploaded a score in like 5 years, and held pretty much all the records on DDRextreme courses until iamchris4lyfe decided to go ham on them recently. He barely played ITG too.

[SCWolf]

Originally Posted by leonid

I said no contest. That's also considering o2jam as well, I'm fully aware of those players.

You have a pretty firm belief that this guy is the absolute best ever, and I'm sure you know better than I do. He's definitely nuts. Just seems like I've seen more impressive O2 players is all.

[Evnoir]

ABCD without a doubt.
When leonid says no contest, he literally means it.

[.Layne.]

Well here's my vote: Cookiezi.

Cookiezi.. is just Cookiezi rofl.

but ABCD.. is.. ABCD.. wtf.

[LongGone]

Originally Posted by SCWolf

You have a pretty firm belief that this guy is the absolute best ever, and I'm sure you know better than I do. He's definitely nuts. Just seems like I've seen more impressive O2 players is all.

I play both bms and o2jam for nearly a decade, so i guess my 2 cents here might have some weight. I'll say ABCD but with slight contest

He plays with kb, wristjacks scratchwalls that people normally trill, has infinite stamina, has chordstream speed, can vibrate, perfect wristjack control, can handle 32nds no problem, and impossible accuracy to top it off. The stuff he gets on his 7k vids, you can cover the right three columns and assume hes doing the left 4 columns like stepmania onehanded without chord cohesion and justice life gauge equivalent.

Compared with other players its like a chasm; its almost equivalent of comparing d6 players to d7 dossar (and those "d6" players are already insane, mind you. They will destroy the solo scoreboard). He only has a few legit rivals that can even come close; Che (who used to tie abcd until he left for military service..), 0133, butanic, troz, etc come to mind. But overall I'd say ABCD achieved scores that even those players will struggle to touch, while the reverse isn't true.

What seals the deal is that he can play 14k too, and is among the few best at it for 14k keyboard play. None of the other BMS monsters can proficiently play both styles at toptier levels, the closest might be some BM controller players from Japan. However, they can't match his sheer accuracy and combo abilities for difficult 7k songs

O2jam is an interesting case. Its difficult to describe how difficult the game is unless you've actually tried it; forced released holds is harder than it sounds. Nowadays, charts are saturated with insanely dense , hold note infested songs. Thus, some players who used to be hidden behind the scenes training with these charts suddenly surface and blows everyone away with achievements that were thought not possible before. It reaches the extent of taking really hard BMS charts, and converting all the normal notes to long notes.

What used to be considered a niche (they used to be thought of as bs, unpassable charts) now gave birth to some of the most insane rhythm gamers I've ever seen. Genesis is acclaimed to be the best O2jam player, check any of his videos. His sheer speed and control over fast chordstream riddled with forced released holds and inversion charts used to be second to none. Thanks to the intense stamina needed to play these songs, he can even play BMS as well too and did achieve insane achievements albeit with sub par accuracy. In fact, his comboing ability arguably exceeds what abcd or Che could do on certain charts. Thus, you could say he has the best of both worlds; comboing the toughest of BMS chordstream and playing hold-infested charts with unbelievable skill.

Despite that I think its an apple to orange comparison. BMS is quite accuracy focused, something O2jam isn't focused on. O2jam however leans towards the most brutal and demanding charts ever seen. Yet, there is just a beautiful finesse that ABCD carries in terms of accurately MAing the most intense patterns on 7k and 14k that makes me put him as the top rhythm gamer for me, as he continues to pump out scores that won't be broken for years to come. Otherwise, it'll be Genesis for me as the brutal slayer of relentless unreadable dumpcharts that the average player won't even survive five seconds in.

Then we have Cookiezi, but that's another story...

[Reincarnate]

Yeah but why male models?

[Renevatia]

ABCD wth is this. I was not ready for this.

[Dynam0]

Originally Posted by LongGone

I play both bms and o2jam for nearly a decade, so i guess my 2 cents here might have some weight. I'll say ABCD but with slight contest

He plays with kb, wristjacks scratchwalls that people normally trill, has infinite stamina, has chordstream speed, can vibrate, perfect wristjack control, can handle 32nds no problem, and impossible accuracy to top it off. The stuff he gets on his 7k vids, you can cover the right three columns and assume hes doing the right 4 columns like stepmania onehanded without chord cohesion and justice life gauge equivalent.

Compared with other players its like a chasm; its almost equivalent of comparing d6 players to d7 dossar (and those "d6" players are already insane, mind you. They will destroy the solo scoreboard). He only has a few legit rivals that can even come close; Che (who used to tie abcd until he left for military service..), 0133, butanic, troz, etc come to mind. But overall I'd say ABCD achieved scores that even those players will struggle to touch, while the reverse isn't true.

What seals the deal is that he can play 14k too, and is among the few best at it for 14k keyboard play. None of the other BMS monsters can proficiently play both styles at toptier levels, the closest might be some BM controller players from Japan. However, they can't match his sheer accuracy and combo abilities for difficult 7k songs

O2jam is an interesting case. Its difficult to describe how difficult the game is unless you've actually tried it; forced released holds is harder than it sounds. Nowadays, charts are saturated with insanely dense , hold note infested songs. Thus, some players who used to be hidden behind the scenes training with these charts suddenly surface and blows everyone away with achievements that were thought not possible before. It reaches the extent of taking really hard BMS charts, and converting all the normal notes to long notes.

What used to be considered a niche (they used to be thought of as bs, unpassable charts) now gave birth to some of the most insane rhythm gamers I've ever seen. Genesis is acclaimed to be the best O2jam player, check any of his videos. His sheer speed and control over fast chordstream riddled with forced released holds and inversion charts used to be second to none. Thanks to the intense stamina needed to play these songs, he can even play BMS as well too and did achieve insane achievements albeit with sub par accuracy. In fact, his comboing ability arguably exceeds what abcd or Che could do on certain charts. Thus, you could say he has the best of both worlds; comboing the toughest of BMS chordstream and playing hold-infested charts with unbelievable skill.

Despite that I think its an apple to orange comparison. BMS is quite accuracy focused, something O2jam isn't focused on. O2jam however leans towards the most brutal and demanding charts ever seen. Yet, there is just a beautiful finesse that ABCD carries in terms of accurately MAing the most intense patterns on 7k and 14k that makes me put him as the top rhythm gamer for me, as he continues to pump out scores that won't be broken for years to come. Otherwise, it'll be Genesis for me as the brutal slayer of relentless unreadable dumpcharts that the average player won't even survive five seconds in.

Then we have Cookiezi, but that's another story...

Thanks for this! I didn't have a lot of knowledge on either of these games so it's good to hear the explanation for why ABCD is so good. I did notice that his accuracy was ridiculous compared to any other bms videos I've seen though.

[Reincarnate]

Just looked at those ABCD videos, what the everliving shit

Are there videos with his hands?

[Dynam0]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Just looked at those ABCD videos, what the everliving shit

Are there videos with his hands?

[i love you]

Originally Posted by Dynam0

What the living fuck...

EDIT: OMG

[SCWolf]

Originally Posted by LongGone

I play both bms and o2jam for nearly a decade, so i guess my 2 cents here might have some weight. I'll say ABCD but with slight contest

He plays with kb, wristjacks scratchwalls that people normally trill, has infinite stamina, has chordstream speed, can vibrate, perfect wristjack control, can handle 32nds no problem, and impossible accuracy to top it off. The stuff he gets on his 7k vids, you can cover the right three columns and assume hes doing the right 4 columns like stepmania onehanded without chord cohesion and justice life gauge equivalent.

Compared with other players its like a chasm; its almost equivalent of comparing d6 players to d7 dossar (and those "d6" players are already insane, mind you. They will destroy the solo scoreboard). He only has a few legit rivals that can even come close; Che (who used to tie abcd until he left for military service..), 0133, butanic, troz, etc come to mind. But overall I'd say ABCD achieved scores that even those players will struggle to touch, while the reverse isn't true.

What seals the deal is that he can play 14k too, and is among the few best at it for 14k keyboard play. None of the other BMS monsters can proficiently play both styles at toptier levels, the closest might be some BM controller players from Japan. However, they can't match his sheer accuracy and combo abilities for difficult 7k songs

O2jam is an interesting case. Its difficult to describe how difficult the game is unless you've actually tried it; forced released holds is harder than it sounds. Nowadays, charts are saturated with insanely dense , hold note infested songs. Thus, some players who used to be hidden behind the scenes training with these charts suddenly surface and blows everyone away with achievements that were thought not possible before. It reaches the extent of taking really hard BMS charts, and converting all the normal notes to long notes.

What used to be considered a niche (they used to be thought of as bs, unpassable charts) now gave birth to some of the most insane rhythm gamers I've ever seen. Genesis is acclaimed to be the best O2jam player, check any of his videos. His sheer speed and control over fast chordstream riddled with forced released holds and inversion charts used to be second to none. Thanks to the intense stamina needed to play these songs, he can even play BMS as well too and did achieve insane achievements albeit with sub par accuracy. In fact, his comboing ability arguably exceeds what abcd or Che could do on certain charts. Thus, you could say he has the best of both worlds; comboing the toughest of BMS chordstream and playing hold-infested charts with unbelievable skill.

Despite that I think its an apple to orange comparison. BMS is quite accuracy focused, something O2jam isn't focused on. O2jam however leans towards the most brutal and demanding charts ever seen. Yet, there is just a beautiful finesse that ABCD carries in terms of accurately MAing the most intense patterns on 7k and 14k that makes me put him as the top rhythm gamer for me, as he continues to pump out scores that won't be broken for years to come. Otherwise, it'll be Genesis for me as the brutal slayer of relentless unreadable dumpcharts that the average player won't even survive five seconds in.

Then we have Cookiezi, but that's another story...

I really appreciate this response. This what kind of what I was hoping to hear as opposed to the "no contest" statement. This actually gives me insight on why to argue ABCD.

I 100% agree with everything you said.

[rCaliberGX]

Originally Posted by LongGone

He plays with kb, wristjacks scratchwalls that people normally trill, has infinite stamina, has chordstream speed, can vibrate, perfect wristjack control, can handle 32nds no problem, and impossible accuracy to top it off. The stuff he gets on his 7k vids, you can cover the right three columns and assume hes doing the right 4 columns like stepmania onehanded without chord cohesion and justice life gauge equivalent.

that