Old 04-2-2018, 12:03 AM   #41
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this is not my opinion, its a fact of twg.
it is an """""""opinion""""""" but its considered to be the proper play mechanically by just about anyone (perhaps I am being a little persnickety here tho)

people who do theory stuff will say that "there is no such thing as an optimal play" but that this is about as close to one as it gets

@flashflash, lets go to the world where you're real and raeko is fake. You have a red check on raeko, and no other red checks. The other checks do not matter. You should always vote for no one other than raeko that day and you should spend every waking moment you have in the thread trying to convince people that they should vote for raeko.

Why?

Because in this setup, the seer checks are true. You have mechanical information that cannot be false that says that raeko is a wolf. Even if all of your other greenchecks are dead and even if someone else says "lynch me I am a wolf" 100x in a row, you should vote for raeko and attempt to convince everyone else that they should do the same.

Based on the information you have, you essentially KNOW that raeko is a wolf. The idiot spamming "lynch me I am a wolf" is "only" a wolf 999 times out of 1,000. Raeko is a wolf, from your perspective, 1000 times out of 1000 (discounting mod errors of course).

Does this make sense?
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Old 04-2-2018, 12:07 AM   #42
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Mechanics trump everything, bro, I keep telling you this.
this is what I said but way shorter.

mechanics are greater than reads, period.

even though other people have a different perspective than you, if you claim to have mechanical info, they basically have to account for that and allow it to alter their perspective or they're straight out playing the game, and I mean whatever word is slightly less strong than this because I don't really have a good one, "incorrectly."

if you are a role, or are claiming to be, people will understand this and will factor the new information into their decision.

a red check is a lynch I will take 1,000 times out of 1,000 over someone I am so convinced is a wolf that I would be willing to put money on it, no matter how sure I am.
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obviously, if you're fake in the scenario from 2 posts ago of mine, its still the same, just in the premise you're repping as the seer instead of actually being the seer, but the two should be played as similarly as possible rwt what checks you have and have claimed otherwise it is likely that you will be seen through
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it makes sense up to the point where I need to convince everyone they vote for raeko
in a theoretical world where I'm vanilla town I'd rather vote for haku because it gives me more time to examine the thunderdome
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it makes sense up to the point where I need to convince everyone they vote for raeko
in a theoretical world where I'm vanilla town I'd rather vote for haku because it gives me more time to examine the thunderdome
...No, as soon as I saw mellon red check you and you red check mellon.

Instantly I didn't ever wink an eye at Haku in terms of voting.
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thesunfan explained it nice and easy.
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that should be put in a wiki somewhere on optimal twg play

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it makes sense up to the point where I need to convince everyone they vote for raeko
in a theoretical world where I'm vanilla town I'd rather vote for haku because it gives me more time to examine the thunderdome
then if you're examing the thunderdome you might as well not vote at all
that gives you equal time

a vote for haku there is virtually useless
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that should be put in a wiki somewhere on optimal twg play

gj sunfan
I've been thinking about making videos about twg but I prolly never will.

I think there are certainly people who can explain mechanics from a logical perspective better than I can
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If you have a soothing voice, use a bunch of graphic, and throw in a skit or two explaining the play in however way you like (purely informational or make this comical). You'd be guuchi my duuuuuude.
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If you have a soothing voice, use a bunch of graphic, and throw in a skit or two explaining the play in however way you like (purely informational or make this comical). You'd be guuchi my duuuuuude.
i'd use notepad and fuckin paint and I don't think many people find my voice enjoyable

sounds like I hit all three
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hey, thanks for playing! hope it wasn't too terrible here

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i'd use notepad and fuckin paint and I don't think many people find my voice enjoyable

sounds like I hit all three
i recorded a video once with commentary and listened back to it and went "oh god"

i sound way more phlegmy to the ears than i do just in my own head. i used to do broadcasting in high school too so that makes me feel for what i was inflicting on people back then
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Time to order a D-People-E-O.

Does this actually exist
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so whens the next game
and did I send my game to CK
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