TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by XelNya

tonight in posts that mean nothing

I guess xel didn't agree he just said it was meaningless at the time lmao

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

yeah but I think this is true regardless of Zenith's alignment, so I don't know if it means much

Raeko did tho

[Wayward Vagabond]

Bugkid if you could please explain your progression on shadow that would be greatly appreciated

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

as it stands right now i definitely see what star is saying about dbp and would like him to make less meme-y posts and provide some actual insight (talking about chris chan isn't insight smh). i do know he truly thought he had 2 more hours til eod.

that being said, i don't know how i feel about everyone's reliance on him to do the work. i know he goes apeshit over these sorts of things, but still he's not perfect.

i don't know how i feel about haku, but i'm also of a similar mindset as star where i don't see haku as a wolf more so than dbp. haku's vote on me is so random that i don't think a wolf would make that bad of a take.

ffa, xel and shado i don't really know at the moment. shado is maybe leaning more towards town but i couldn't tell you why. ffa seems normal. did he ever post a reads list? i can't remember. i feel like xel/lewdy as w/w would have been a lot more bantery and exciting, but who knows.

if star is a wolf i'll be surprised. no reason for her to put in that much work as a wolf, even if it was to keep up an image.

i forgot wv was in this game sorry

Why does it seem like your d0 reads were better

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

so, i don't think lewdy was acting OVERTLY out of character. this is if you believe his post about not wanting to be overbearing, which i took to heart. but the more time that went on, the more drastically out of character it was that he wasn't posting. from my experience, if lewdy is busy, he will still find time to post. and yes, by the end of d0, i did find him most suspicious, but i would have much rather gotten out an inactive player at that time and i still stand by that even after the flips. if lewdy hadn't been killed, i would have absolutely zeroed in on him today. i don't know if this answers your question but i hope it clarifies?

Looks like you answered the progression question here welp

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

let me extend an olive branch.
your shot on raeko was the chef's kiss

and whether I like it or not is beside the point rn I guess. just gotta make the best of it

Shot on raeko?

[Wayward Vagabond]

I could've just gone forward a page and seen you correct yourself smh

[flashflash account]

That was a wild read

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

WV town lean, nothing is standing out to me as particularly odd
Haku i want to believe haku is town here, but i've been duped by them before so realistically, i don't know if i can read them well at all. on paper, there are too many weird things that point to them being obviously town or a bad wolf... i will intentionally leave this to others who have had more experience playing with them than me.
Xel vigi i guess????? i don't see a wolf claiming this so unnecessarily. also:
Shado his response to xel claiming vigi was aggressive, but i see his points. i honestly keep going back and forth on shado. d0 i thought he was behaving strangely, and then i liked some of his posts today... now i'm going back to the "hmmmm idk" gut feeling. i'll look at some of his interactions with lewdy again.
FFA not much to say here
star also not much to say here, i really don't think she is scum. idk if i wholeheartedly agree with myself here, as this is a pretty over-simplistic way of looking at it, but my point still (weakly) stands.
dbp i don't know how to read him in twg. i don't know how to read him in twg. i don't know how to read him in twg. i don't know how to read him in twg. i don't know how to read him in twg. but he's also the least present by miles so this is where my vote will go unless some other shit goes down.

Bugkid can you give me your progressions from that semi reads list I quoted earlier to this one?

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

That was a wild read

Help me out here FFA

[flashflash account]

I don't think a wolf would engage in historical revisionism just to scum read someone, if that's what you mean
they also had an explanation for it anyway so it's fine to me I think

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I guess xel didn't agree he just said it was meaningless at the time lmao

It’s an objectively useless post because it doesn’t add anything to anything

“There’s a wolf here” like no shit

So to clarify, it’s still a shitty post comparable to my last post at bugkid lol

[Hakulyte]

My vote is currently on DBP.

I have to leave to work. I will not be back for eod.

[XelNya]

Hmmmmm

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I don't think star is ever a wolf here. if she is then her transformation has been drastic and radical and extremely impressive to pull off, but also equally unlikely that any of that happened. "putting in work" is not alignment indicative for me, but I've found her progression and timing to be natural and genuine, which is something I do not think is easy to fix in your wolfgames

I think if WV is scum then I have been pocketed extremely hard and am almost resigned to that fate if it is to be, at this point. he's pretty much off the table for me until either being wrong can cost game or if he does ????

I like FFA and have consistently found myself agreeing with his thoughts. He's felt off since EoD though and I would like that to resolve at some point, but would still be somewhat surprised if he's wolfing.

I like Haku and like both his push on bugkid and the better tone he has this phase. I feel like I need to re-evaluate this read most out of everything considering how wormy the feeling I got yesterday was. I think I will be looking specifically for genuineness in his slippery slope style trains of thought and in his paranoia because those are both things he himself knows he has less of as wolf and tries to compensate for.

I like Xel but do not have a whole lot to go off of. His feel/vibe made me feel like he was town yesterday and I still feel that same vibe, but would like to get something more concrete to look at as the game progresses

DBP could go either way. nothing he's posted has particularly pinged me as necessarily town or necessarily wolf. If he's wolf I think I have something to look for in future games (if any), but he's pretty much a fat null for me right now

bugkid confuses me. I do not feel particularly comfortable with their slot or progression with lewdy, but am pending other people's thoughts on ISO or input on how they typically play at the very least

I do not really have time to make my own read list at this point, and this is the one I have seen recently that I agree with most, so I am going to just add onto it what seems relevant.

In my mind, you (Shado) have been the most convincingly "solvey" based on the new info we have. I think that your way of approaching that has seemed very genuine. I very much believe your reaction to the Xel situation, with the speed you were responding at. I think I relate to you most emotionally, in that we are in a good spot - much more is in town's favor than usual - but it's not impossible to throw. I especially got that impression from the Xel situation, but also in general. I think that your play overall would be harder to fake than the Haku thing - I realized that I've spent so much more of the day talking about Haku, that people may not actually realize how I feel on that.

I do not really have a strong opinion on Haku's attempts at solving today. Haku pretty convincingly does not know what to do next but isn't giving up. I think the best counterargument to my town case is that this is a 2 wolf setup with 11 people in it - that is the reason they could want to stick together more, than normal. I still feel that Haku is not the most likely answer to who we should hang if we want the best shot of instantly winning.

I don't know if I am biased because of not knowing bugkid as well, but that would be my second kill behind DBP, if it was up to me and the game did not end after DBP.

I think FFA is probably somebody I should put more pressure on?? He is pulling off his vibe well though

[flashflash account]

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I said there has to be a wolf on the zenith wagon. Xel and raeko agreed. Raeko ded, xel is gun toting hero cannon and that leaves wolfE and bugkid.

Out of those two I clearly go bugkid

Off memory, the post where you said that was the most wtf inducing post that's come out of you all game. You made it at a time where it was just bugkid and myself on there and it was like???

The wagon wasn't even a wagon at the time and I had a really hard time trying to understand where you were coming from

[ShadoWolfe]

Mikey what are you doing with those gifs? Just bored?

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Didn't bugkid say they had a strong wolf lean on shadow

I did say "only a slight town lean" and then I mentioned later that as more time goes on, the more out of character it is for him and therefore more scummy. trued to defend him due to his post about wanting to not be overbearing but the rest of his lack of presence really sunk his grave. if you saw my reactions towards end of day, it was very clear I was sus of lewdy well before his flip.

[ShadoWolfe]

I like how WV told me he wouldn't ISO bug when I thought they were scummier and then immediately ISOs them when I changed my mind. "I don't ISO" my ass