TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

Quote this when I miss eod.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

so this was in response to my asking you about your vote on FFA. 12 minutes before EoD.
then you left your vote there and happily commented through EoD.
what was up with that?

I made an intent to vote zenith and if not him them shadow. I forgot to unvote FFA and that's my bad but happily commenting through eod was entirely because I thought I still had 2 more hours left. Do you think I'm just going to post after the day ends as some 4d chess move to throw people off my wolf trail. Like it's some elaborate scheme

Context mah boi

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

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Hard to not see wolfE as town here

[XelNya]

Loooooool

[flashflash account]

I just wasn't looking at the thread leading up to eod and zenith was my lowest priority target

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Yesterday at EoD there were two things you said that I wanted to ask you about at the time but there was none so, since we're talking:

The first is, "Shado comes off to me as having a lot of fun, and it reminds me of the good old days of TWG. I still think the main thing that gave me a good feeling, was the emotional complexity with when raeko forgot the game. DaBackpack apparently has no opinion on that. Lame. I think I was hoping that he would help me more with what to make of Haku. "

can you walk me through the logic on "I wanted DBP to help me read Shado so I could better read Haku"?
and who is the "he" in the last sentence?

the other thing was right at EoD you were talking about how Haku was the one thing that engaged you or something along those lines and said "I still haven't decided if I can stomach leaving my vote there. I just feel like I needed someone else to step up and help me make more sense of it so that I can form a more holistic view of the game, and two of the people who might have been able to do that are Currently Active non-players, and it's just... I don't feel grounded in this game."

what did you mean by "currently active non-players"? and do you feel more grounded now, or still about the same?

First part - by "he," I meant you. DBP actually seemed to agree with me on Haku. I think I felt that you were taking more of an observational standpoint on my conversation with Haku rather than saying everything on your mind about it. But it may have ultimately been more my fault for being afk, that I had not progressed as much there as I hoped to by the time I needed to lock in a vote.

DBP's pressure toward you was interesting to me, because I had a more overall positive view on your posts, but felt like it was more of a vibe than really getting really obvious townie energy from any specific post. I had wanted to discuss that and brought up a post I relatively liked from you. But DBP responded by more or less saying he did not really think it was that hard of a post for you to make, as a wolf and had no opinion on it. So it was not as interesting of a discussion as I had hoped.

Second part - the currently active players list, is that list of the bottom of the page that says who is posting. Roundbox and the sun fan were both on the list. They are not in this game (obviously roundbox is the mod...), but they have both been in a lot of my past games.

I do feel more grounded now because there is a lot more information. I think my main current problem is, I am not too sure how to get a better read on either of bugkid or Xel still? WV, I theoretically should be able to, but I need to do more work there.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Quote this when I miss eod.

are you already resigning yourself to being lynched?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Context mah boi

context is important broseph but sometimes it's better to hear things straight from the horse's mouth

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I mean if you're trying to start a sandstorm a good place to start it by kicking up dirt

Do you remember what you meant by this?

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

how the hell do you get banned from neopets

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

most frustratingly, we'll never get an answer for this

You forgot about DEATH POSTS BABY

I don't know about these days, but back in the day it was incredibly difficult NOT to get banned from Neopets. All my homies had backup accounts on the ready

When the site first started the mods would interact with people on the forum and would ban people for personal reasons. This never happened to me but I saw it happen multiple times

There were also tons of whack rules. You could get banned for:

attempting to bypass the swear filter

giving "identifiable information". This could include things like "I'm Canadian" or "My time zone is PST"

Coordinating a friend adopting one of your pets instead of just sending it into the abyss

I don't remember the exact specifics anymore cause this happened in like 2003 but one of my neofriends got banned for talking about being a furry. we started a whole campaign to unban her with a guild and pet pages that we would send people to. Not sure what we thought that would accomplish and I don't remember if she got her account back or just came back with an alt.

Now for myself, it was the stupidest reason ever. I'd had some random accounts banned in the past but my OG alt which became my main is the one I'm talking about. I had a complete plushie collection at one point in time, every plushie item in the game. I listed these in my shop at ridiculous prices to show them off, aka a "gallery". I stopped playing

FF to like 2011 or something and I log in for maybe 2 hours for nostalgia and then log off. The next day, I get an email about how I am banned because it is illegal to have a gallery in your shop since they have now added a gallery feature. They added this feature at some point in the time I had stopped playing and I just never noticed that it existed. I emailed them explaining the situation and they emailed back saying fuck off (not exactly that but yeah I wasn't getting my account back).

I just looked up my username and apparently it exists but I can't login using any of the passwords I would have used, so I can't verify if it's my account that was unbanned or if it's someone else. There is also apparently a pet with my username which 100% isn't mine which is kinda funny

So that is how you get banned from neopets lol

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I just wasn't looking at the thread leading up to eod and zenith was my lowest priority target

that's fair. thanks

I assume you've read my posts on Haku to star today? do you disagree?

& what do you think is the biggest thing keeping you interested there?

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I have a less black and white view on how to handle inactives than you do, I think. I understand that people generally maintain their philosophy on that between games, so as long as someone is being internally consistent and not hypocritical, it is what it is. But, the riot comment in the first post, my brain has flagged as being out of place, because it's so...preemptively defensive? Not sure if there is more context you would be able to give on that

in past games I've been in, people have outright said that lynching inactives is anti-town behavior and I simply cannot get behind that whatsoever. that's all lol

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

DBP's behavior is more suggestive of being someone that already knows Shadowgod is a wolf 9 times out of 10, in my opinion.

@star can you elaborate? what pings you on this?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

in past games I've been in, people have outright said that lynching inactives is anti-town behavior and I simply cannot get behind that whatsoever. that's all lol

whoever said that needs a frying pan to the face

but at the same time I think there's times where it's true
like in games with postcount minimums you can let the mod deal with the totally inactive player on d0 and hope for either a good flip or a better replacement the next day. after d0 they become too big of a liability to leave hanging

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

that's fair. thanks

I assume you've read my posts on Haku to star today? do you disagree?

& what do you think is the biggest thing keeping you interested there?

star's read on haku is weirdly detached especially considering the rest of their posts have often been stealing words from me before I say them
that's about it

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

whoever said that needs a frying pan to the face

but at the same time I think there's times where it's true
like in games with postcount minimums you can let the mod deal with the totally inactive player on d0 and hope for either a good flip or a better replacement the next day. after d0 they become too big of a liability to leave hanging

that's totally fair tbh, but in this case obviously there was no post count min so

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

context is important broseph but sometimes it's better to hear things straight from the horse's mouth

I appreciate you also I never understood that saying

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Do you remember what you meant by this?

I took that post as intentionally misinterpreting what he was saying to put him in a bad light.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

star's read on haku is weirdly detached especially considering the rest of their posts have often been stealing words from me before I say them
that's about it

lmao @ stealing words before I say them

what does star have to do with your read on Haku though? I meant what the biggest thing keeping you interested in Haku was

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

@star can you elaborate? what pings you on this?

I am just still making the point that Haku's behavior is actively unlikely to be w/w with Shadowgod while DBP's could easily be. DBP isn't positive toward Shadowgod, but framed it as being a negative point for bugkid, and pursued other leads first. I am more comfortable hanging DBP than Haku, from how they have both played so far.

In response to what FFA just said, I feel that strongly about the previous interactions that I genuinely do feel detached from how I used to think of Haku. Because I am reading Haku as somebody who did not know Shadowgod was a wolf.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I am just still making the point that Haku's behavior is actively unlikely to be w/w with Shadowgod while DBP's could easily be. DBP isn't positive toward Shadowgod, but framed it as being a negative point for bugkid, and pursued other leads first. I am more comfortable hanging DBP than Haku, from how they have both played so far.

I don't think that answers my question
to be clearer, what I'm asking is what specifically makes you think that DBP is acting like he knew lewdy was wolf "9 times out of 10"