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I like to make slight changes in BPM to keep it stable. 4 66.67%
I like a fixed bpm and use pretty colored notes. 1 16.67%
I DON FUX WIT INCONSISTENT BPM FAM 1 16.67%
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:57 AM   #1
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When it comes to songs that weren't recorded with a click track, do you prefer making slight changes in bpm? Or would you rather have the entire chart conform to an average bpm?

What if the song's bpm fluctuates a lot? (e.g. The Games We Played)

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Old 01-12-2016, 11:16 AM   #2
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lol don't use fixed BPM on songs that have BPM changes, it's not a good time.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:44 AM   #3
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for me i like to start with bpm 1 and every beat increase the bpm by 1 until the end of the song but that is just my personally preference
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:13 PM   #4
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lol don't use fixed BPM on songs that have BPM changes, it's not a good time.
It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.
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i just chart stuff that's a constant bpm but still has stuff that's unquantized
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:00 PM   #6
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It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.
I stepped more contemporary jazz. Also most people play with cmods so bpm changes aren't noticed. Just sync the song like a man you pussy.
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When it comes to songs that weren't recorded with a click track, do you prefer making slight changes in bpm? Or would you rather have the entire chart conform to an average bpm?
put every beat manually to waveform peaks
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:58 PM   #8
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I stepped more contemporary jazz. Also most people play with cmods so bpm changes aren't noticed. Just sync the song like a man you pussy.
FINE, DAD. >:'(

I really like your charts. Good point about cmods. I almost forgot about those.

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put every beat manually to waveform peaks
Done. This ain't so bad.

Thanks for the feedback y'all.
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I use a mixture of bpm changes & playing with cmods, sometimes finding songs that have inconsistent bpms can be a lot of fun
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It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.
I'm in the middle of stepping solos from Herbie Hancock, Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Bud Powell, Ahmad Jamal, and some other jazz works that I come across. These take a long af time to step so I might just finish and release them as a pack one of these days. What kinda stuff are you working on?
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FINE, DAD. >:'(

I really like your charts. Good point about cmods. I almost forgot about those.



Done. This ain't so bad.

Thanks for the feedback y'all.
Thanks :')

Also definitely don't do what ilikexd said
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I'm in the middle of stepping solos from Herbie Hancock, Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Bud Powell, Ahmad Jamal, and some other jazz works that I come across. These take a long af time to step so I might just finish and release them as a pack one of these days. What kinda stuff are you working on?
OH SHIT. I'm following you now fam.
I just started Coltrane's Giant Steps to get a feel for this jazz thing. Hopefully, I can move onto Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers, Wayne Shorter, Mingus, Max Roach. Also...(psst don't tell anyone)...Kamasi's Le Ebin...sssshhhhhhhhh <.< >.>

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Thanks :')

Also definitely don't do what ilikexd said
I just slowed down the waveform a little and then hit B in ddream every 4 beats, then used Grow to fill the beats in between. It was easier than I thought, and way better than what I was trying to do earlier, which was to start with an average bpm for the whole song, then adjust from there.

I have to admit, though, this is taking a lot of time. I'm constantly thinking: why am I doing this when I should be practicing my saxophone? .-.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:55 PM   #13
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I made (or tried to make) simfiles for several years and really never learned how to sync anything that wasn't static

better tools and resources and more info available now though, gl gl
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