Old 12-24-2010, 10:06 AM   #3341
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I really dislike the comments in thread.

Everyone complains about how easy a song is because...

A. That person AAAed it
B. 50 other people AAAed it
C. Theirs nothing hard about it, just not so many people have AAAed it

Many fail to see how a correct rating system should work, it's not just about how hard/easy a song is.

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Old 12-24-2010, 10:06 AM   #3342
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stavie for the love of god shut the **** up you biased asss. everything youve ever suggested has been based on how well you can do it. this goes for seriously everything from song difficulties to ****ing skill token reqs. REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYONE IS AS GOOD AS YOU AT SMASHING KEYS


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Old 12-24-2010, 10:13 AM   #3344
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Old 12-24-2010, 10:28 AM   #3346
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stavie for the love of god shut the **** up you biased asss. everything youve ever suggested has been based on how well you can do it. this goes for seriously everything from song difficulties to ****ing skill token reqs. REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYONE IS AS GOOD AS YOU AT SMASHING KEYS
what am I bais on? Jesus guys, you are just ripping me apart here over nothing. A lot of people have said that Time to Eye should be FMO because it's easy for them, even TC said that, did you guys flame the crap out of him? No.

I've put good reasons up there and you guys haven't even responded to them except that I'm a bias ass. After reading my comments, I can somewhat see why you'd think that, because I post my score capabilities first and foremost in the posts, before examining the file. I also think my skill token thread posts have made you all think I'm bias and look only at how well I do. I'll stop doing that, and just examine the file. That may be true for the skill tokens, because I definitely think we need some more challenging tokens and less easy ones, as people are still complaining that Oni is no longer hard (Which I have never complained about, and I think ALL FMO's should get Oni), and since so many are whining that we need a new killer token, I was thinking of harder ones that are more of a challenge, sorry that they ended up impossible, but for difficulties, I try to look at the patterns, compare files, and not be bias. But previously, I used to be pretty good at examining difficulties of files, and made the lists for this thread (the old one) quite a few times and everyone was pretty happy with my ratings.

I'll stop saying "I did this, I did that", but that doesn't change the fact that pattern wise, it's more simplistic than those aforementioned files. And guys, it's a discussion thread about a subjective matter, of course there will be arguments, quite getting so damn pissy about it jeez, sorry, but calm the hell down guys :/
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Old 12-24-2010, 10:31 AM   #3348
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You could just stop posting then everyone will be happy.
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Old 12-24-2010, 10:32 AM   #3349
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Successful trolls are successful.

Also, your argument for making Master Maid a VC is similar to saying "Eradication isn't an FMO, it's just fast and has a few polyrhythms guys jeez." Sure, the rolls can be jumptrilled, and the file has no particularly difficult patterns, but it's fast and the amount of arrows in a given area is really dense which makes it both hard to read AND hard to play. It's a solid FMO, and just because some guy with a stick up his ass is currently under-rating a bunch of FMO's to VC's doesn't mean that Master Maid just suddenly dropped it's difficulty level.

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Old 12-24-2010, 10:32 AM   #3350
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what am I bais on? Jesus guys, you are just ripping me apart here over nothing. A lot of people have said that Time to Eye should be FMO because it's easy for them, even TC said that, did you guys flame the crap out of him? No.

I've put good reasons up there and you guys haven't even responded to them except that I'm a bias ass. After reading my comments, I can somewhat see why you'd think that, because I post my score capabilities first and foremost in the posts, before examining the file. I also think my skill token thread posts have made you all think I'm bias and look only at how well I do. I'll stop doing that, and just examine the file. That may be true for the skill tokens, because I definitely think we need some more challenging tokens and less easy ones, as people are still complaining that Oni is no longer hard (Which I have never complained about, and I think ALL FMO's should get Oni), and since so many are whining that we need a new killer token, I was thinking of harder ones that are more of a challenge, sorry that they ended up impossible, but for difficulties, I try to look at the patterns, compare files, and not be bias. But previously, I used to be pretty good at examining difficulties of files, and made the lists for this thread (the old one) quite a few times and everyone was pretty happy with my ratings.

I'll stop saying "I did this, I did that", but that doesn't change the fact that pattern wise, it's more simplistic than those aforementioned files. And guys, it's a discussion thread about a subjective matter, of course there will be arguments, quite getting so damn pissy about it jeez, sorry, but calm the hell down guys :/
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Old 12-24-2010, 10:38 AM   #3351
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Songs need to be rated on their respective difficulties to PA and FC, not by how inherently easy the patterns are. Saying Master Maid should be a VC is completely ridiculous considering there's only 22 AAAs, and it's been out for a while. But sure, AAA count may be biased, so let's go to raw song difficulty.

Master Maid: 1465 notes, 128 seconds - 11.44 TPS, and this is with a LONG introduction to top it off. Some of the FGOs average around this many taps per second too. The rolls (mathematically) aren't possible to cheat, and the song boasts a ton of tricky patterns with constant broken jumpstream. Let's not forget the fact that there are four HUGE rolls, not just one. If Master Maid is a VC, then let's change songs like DeVouR to low FMOs because hey, they're just rolls, right?
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COMPLETELY UPDATED LIST FOR VD+, HERE WE GO BABY!! COMMENTS!!! UPDATE JX!! UPDATE!!!

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[4/6 - Very Difficult]
48 (D) Resurrection in Progress (681 Notes / BPM 138)
48 (M) Four Vents (499 Notes / BPM 100)
48 (D) Fantasia (708 Notes / BPM )
48 (D) Felys (Elegiac Mix) (616 Notes / BPM 140)
48 (A) Bury Me On the Jedi Battlefield (763 Notes / BPM 160)
48 (D) X-Dreamer Final Cut (608 Notes / BPM 135)
48 (D) Road To You (800 Notes / BPM 158)
48 (R) The Space Between (1044 Notes / BPM 85-170)
48 (D) Palindrome (437 Notes / BPM 155-165)
49 (M) iPatch's OP (500 Notes / BPM )
49 (D) Start Something (368 Notes / BPM 140)
49 (D) Lost (896 Notes / BPM )
49 (H) Back In the Day (1073 Notes / BPM 100)
49 (R) Victims And Martyrs (1194 Notes / BPM 179)
49 (D) Troglodytic Epica (1482 Notes / BPM 60-135)
49 (D) Chaotic Sound (950 Notes / BPM 140)
49 (D) Coactive (805 Notes / BPM 120)
49 (C) Maple Leaf Rag (1155 Notes / BPM 108)
49 (D) Moonbeam (885 Notes / BPM 140)
50 (D) Hanabi (976 Notes / BPM 140)
50 (R) Heel and Toe (600 Notes / BPM 185)
50 (R) The Wanderer (1051 Notes / BPM 78-110)
50 (D) Vijore (607 Notes / BPM 144)
50 (D) July (724 Notes / BPM 171)
50 (D) Sunshine Stone (870 Notes / BPM 138)
51 (D) X (601 Notes / BPM 100)
51 (M) Sakura no Kenshi (1212 Notes / BPM 160)
51 (D) Less Talk More Rokk (Mark Saunders Remix) (1385 Notes / BPM 76-125)
51 (D) Snowball Fight (757 Notes / BPM 176)
51 (P) Courage (832 Notes / BPM 140)
51 (D) Destiny (612 Notes / BPM 175)
51 (D) That is Fair (590 Notes / BPM 125)
51 (D) ROAR (Rage Mix) (686 Notes / BPM )
51 (C) Fig Leaf Rag (1120 Notes / BPM 100)
51 (D) Incognito (754 Notes / BPM 150)
52 (D) Synful Sub (1330 Notes / BPM 140)
52 (M) Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) (1180 Notes / BPM 165)
52 (A) Crystalis - House Leaves (Long) (720 Notes / BPM 127)
52 (R) Eternal Nightmare [Heavy] (1393 Notes / BPM )
52 (D) Say It Right (Sanxion7 Remix) (838 Notes / BPM )
52 (R) Driveway [Heavy] (1067 Notes / BPM 213)
52 (P) Night Of Flight (1574 Notes / BPM 150)
52 (D) Tribal Revival (999 Notes / BPM 140)
53 (D2) Hyper Hyper -Definitive Version- (769 Notes / BPM 157.2)
53 (D2) Legend Of the Starfighter (970 Notes / BPM 160)
53 (D2) Air Breeze (739 Notes / BPM )
53 (D2) Frozen Fire (681 Notes / BPM 160)
53 (D2) Brightone (704 Notes / BPM 155)
53 (D2) Mercury Lamp (1049 Notes / BPM 147)
53 (D2) Twilight Techno (1107 Notes / BPM )
53 (D2) bbblow (774 Notes / BPM 160)
53 (D2) Thinking Different (902 Notes / BPM 113)
53 (M) Euthanasia (814 Notes / BPM 135)
53 (D2) DT Rabbit Blood Festival (1085 Notes / BPM 170)
53 (P) NeoMAX (702 Notes / BPM 170)
53 (A) Horizon Remix (1399 Notes / BPM )
54 (D2) Affected (763 Notes / BPM 144)
54 (D2) Sky Dive (755 Notes/ BPM 170)
54 (D2) Utopia (795 Notes / BPM )
54 (M) Casio Destroy Toy (1166 Notes / BPM 160)
54 (R) 5 Black Skulls (934 Notes / BPM 150-165)
54 (D2) Prison Break (1018 Notes / BPM 141)
54 (D2) Solitude Sun (725 Notes / BPM 175)
54 (A) Techno Green Greens (563 Notes / BPM )
54 (D2) Deep Breath (792 Notes / BPM 135)
55 (C) Jurs OP (541 Notes / BPM 23-220)
55 (M) Go Go Go Power Rangers (533 Notes / BPM 180)
55 (D2) Harry Potter Techno Remix (607 Notes / BPM 180)
55 (P) Oasis -Long Version- (1278 Notes / BPM )
55 (P) Angel Stays on This Ground -Vocal Remix- (969 Notes / BPM )
55 (A) Vanishing Gungaroon (777 Notes / BPM )

55 (D2) Comptine D'un Autre Ete Techno Mix (904 Notes / BPM )
55 (D2) {Firestorm} (1010 Notes / BPM 130)
55 (D2) Butterflies (short edit) (952 Notes / BPM )
55 (S) Lethal Injection (1074 Notes / BPM 139)
55 (D2) Frozen Rain (1238 Notes / BPM 155)
55 (D2) Delta Beat (0 Vector Mix) (1142 Notes / BPM )
55 (M) Electro Rush X8 (787 Notes / BPM 130)
55 (D2) Take Me Back (738 Notes / BPM 175)
56 (YTBM) CyroSleep (623 Notes / BPM )
56 (D2) Hatten Carnival! (640 Notes / BPM 172)
56 (M) Indulgence (960 Notes / BPM )
56 (D2) Dr0p! (854 Notes / BPM )[/i][/b]
56 (R) Switchback [Heavy] (958 Notes / BPM 128)
[b][i]56 (A) Lovers Reef (1116 Notes / BPM )
56 (D2) Sly (852 Notes / BPM 160)
56 (D2) Synic (865 Notes / BPM )
56 (D2) U.M.A (Notes 848 / BMP)

56 (D2) Clockwork Genesis (825 Notes / BPM )
56 (M) {Red Alert} (496 Notes / BPM 185)
57 (S) Visions (NRGyzd mix) (1350 Notes / BPM 150)
57 (D2) Youkoso! Himitsu no Janbaraya! (724 Notes / BPM 151)
57 (D2) Saikyou OX Keikaku (621 Notes / BPM 176)
57 (R) Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (274 Notes / BPM )
57 (A) Remember 15 years ago (881 Notes / BPM )
58 (D2) Megascorcher (846 Notes / BPM )

58 (D2) J219 (Ura-Rokkou Mix) (866 Notes / BPM 160)
58 (D2) Aurora (934 Notes / BPM )
58 (D2) Sensorium (1424 Notes / BPM 136)
58 (A) Black Wing Metamorphosis (Notes / BPM)
58 (D2) Sepia (762 Notes / BPM 142)
58 (M) Wrath (768 Notes / BPM 180)
58 (M) Strawberry Music (661 Notes / BPM 180)
59 (M) Kaleidoscope (730 Notes / BPM 180)
59 (M) Go! (1164 Notes / BPM 155)
59 (A) 600 AD in Piano (993 Notes / BPM 24-350)
59 (A) The Games We Played, Part 2 (693 Notes / BPM 19-225)
59 (S) MAX Forever (2709 Notes / BPM 300)

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[4.5/6 - Challenging]
60 (D2) CIA Rave (1060 Notes / BPM 160)
60 (D2) Fantranstic (904 Notes / BPM 180)
60 (R) Rock Paper Snippers (1500 Notes / BPM 146-184)
60 (D2) {Arabian Assassin} (659 Notes / BPM 154-174)
60 (M) Here's to Life [Oni] (1178 Notes / BPM )
60 (R) Inside the Fire [FFR Chart] (1088 Notes / BPM )
60 (D2) Euro Freak (955 Notes / BPM 160)
60 (D2) Etude To A Dragon (769 Notes / BPM 132)
60 (D2) Endless Dream (930 Notes / BPM 182ds
61 (D2) ESC - Super Version (945 Notes / BPM 68-137)
61 (D2) Haven (961 Notes / BPM 142)
61 (D2) Wild Sky (549 Notes / BPM 161.5)
61 (D2) Delirium (1078 Notes / BPM 163)
61 (R) Faces [Heavy] (1474 Notes / BPM )
61 (A) Toono Youkai Zenzen (845 Notes / BPM )
61 (D2) Teh Tricky Techno (473 Notes / BPM 165)
61 (A) Radius ~Hacker No Yabou~ (1053 Notes / BPM 152)
61 (A) Decisive Battle (555 Notes / BPM 58-250)
61 (M) Playdoh (986 Notes / BPM 185)
61 (P) ASB (858 Notes / BPM 280)
61 (D2) Secrets and Lies (810 Notes / BPM 150.7)
62 (S) Abtrusity (718 Notes / BPM 155)
62 (H) Famouz (392 Notes / BPM 160)
62 (D2) For Your Love (827 Notes / BPM 140)
62 (D2) I am Maid (957 Notes / BPM )
(A) Pulling Through (740 Notes / BPM )
62 (M) Carol Megamix (1225 Notes / BPM 157)
62 (M) Dragons Bane (762 Notes / BPM 85-170)
62 (D2) Into the Night (570 Notes / BPM )
62 (D2) Z (872 Notes / BPM 150)
62 (S) Shining Sky (1327 Notes / BPM )
62 (S) Force Of Light (1074 Notes / BPM 145)
62 (S) Hyper Pressure (1111 Notes / BPM 182)
62 (A) Sword Strike (666 Notes / BPM )
62 (A) the Dream of Scarlet (474 Notes / BPM 200)
63 (D2) Infinity 301 (700 Notes / BPM )
63 (D2) Robotix (822 Notes / BPM 150)
63 (S) Summer -Speedy Mix- (777 Notes / BPM 186)
63 (P) Uber Rave V2 (1026 Notes / BPM 175)
63 (D2) Tension (980 Notes / BPM 180)
63 (YTBM) Nebula [Rushjet1] (893 Notes / BPM )
63 (R) Dimensions (1741 Notes / BPM 184)
63 (D2) Mother Of God (1387 Notes / BPM 165)
63 (M) Sunny Side Up (1042 Notes / BPM 172.3)
63 (R) Comfort Betrays (1200 Notes / BPM )
63 (P) R8U another (1042 Notes / BPM )
64 (D2) Euphoria [Smiley] (870 Notes / BPM 140)
64 (D2) Duality (1046 Notes / BPM 142-194)
64 (A) Pupil of Frenzy (1436 Notes / BPM 150)
64 (A) Rumia, Sealed Youkai of the Night
64 (S) Gaussian Blur 3 (859 Notes / BPM 110-220)
64 (R) Matador (1028 Notes / BPM 175)
64 (D2) The Prototype (1271 Notes / BPM 175)
64 (P) Felys (936 Notes / BPM )
64 (A) Final Fantasy 3 Boss (781 Notes / BPM 165)
64 (YTBM) Streets (932 Notes / BPM )
64 (D2) Dokodemo Kawaii (849 Notes / BPM )
64 (D2) {Blaze} (1372 Notes / BPM 175)
64 (D2) 20031023 (1119 Notes / BPM 179)
64 (M) 101 Kittens ( Notes / BPM )
64 (D2) Chariot (944 Notes / BPM 182)
64 (D2) Seven (777 Notes / BPM 140)
64 (D2) Shapeshifter (792 Notes / BPM )
64 (H) Brainwave (918 Notes / BPM )
65 (D2) Neon-213 (655 Notes / BPM 180)
65 (A) AAA (1038 Notes / BPM 160)
65 (R) ABCDEath (383 Notes / BPM )
65 (D2) Progression (936 Notes / BPM 125)
65 (D2) Tell me a Story (compendium mix) (683 Notes / BPM )
65 (D2) Wisdom (769 Notes / BPM 170)
65 (M) Far Away From Home (964 Notes / BPM )
65 (A) the Brain of the Moon (2135 Notes / BPM ???)
65 (M) Video Out A (751 Notes / BPM 178)
65 (M) Evil Approaches (783 Notes / BPM 180)
65 (M) Relic Expedition in Another Star (938 Notes / BPM )
65 (D2) {Adrenaline Pumper} (1082 Notes / BPM 174.5)
65 (A) The Games We Played, Part 4 (1124 Notes / BPM 33-236)
65 (M) Ruins (877 Notes / BPM 120)
65 (M) Amefuri Koneko (881 Notes / BPM 118)
65 (D2) Tribal Transcendency (1136 Notes / BPM 165)
66 (YTBM) Chaoz Japan (831 Notes / BPM )
66 (M) Coat Czech (670 Notes / BPM 98)
66 (D2) Divinity (1009 Notes / BPM 137)
66 (C) Hungarian Dance #7 (510 Notes / BPM 220)
66 (S) Mute City Remix (874 Notes / BPM 170)
66 (D2) Infernoplex (1455 Notes / BPM 175)
66 (P) Falsie, the Pseudo Science girl (1024 Notes / BPM )
66 (D2) Crystal Wind (764 Notes / BPM )
66 (P) Rondo Alla Turca V2 (1523 Notes / BPM 150)
66 (C) Rondo Alla Turca (1550 Notes / BPM 140?)
66 (M) WAIWAI230 (813 Notes / BPM )
66 (D2) Shind Bad (957 Notes / BPM 197.6)
66 (D2) Megane De Ne! (1390 Notes / BPM 130-160)
66 (D2) Torinouta (Noise Rave Mix) (1148 Notes / BPM 180)
66 (D2) Innocent Decay (724 Notes / BPM 200)
67 (A) Synaxis Symphony (706 Notes / BPM 182-200)
67 (D2) Lovely Lovely Lovely (826 Notes / BPM 192)
67 (D2) {Rose} (1301 Notes / BPM 182)
67 (D2) Dazzling Soul (1001 Notes / BPM 165)
67 (M) Toph's OP (750 Notes / BPM 150)
67 (D2) Dokudenpa (1600 Notes / BPM 188)
67 (D2) Uber Rave (965 Notes / BPM 175)
67 (M) Ska Cha Cha (Notes / BPM)
67 (P) Lapis -The Heaven's Remix- (883 Notes / BPM )
67 (D2) Endless Altercation (938 Notes / BPM 160)
67 (P) Toph's Opening remix (1000 Notes / BPM )
67 (D2) Forsaken Neon (650 Notes / BPM 230)
67 (C) Legendary Etude (1326 Notes / BPM 150)
67 (A) Gym Leader (RBY) (1043 Notes / BPM )
67 (M) Nanairopanda ( Notes / BPM)
67 (D2) Over the Frail Dream (789 Notes / BPM 200)
67 (M) Washamoose's OP (1209 Notes / BPM )
67 (A) The Games We Played, Part 5 (1264 Notes / BPM 20-199)

[5/6 - Very Challenging]
68 (YTBM) Fighting For Control (1091 Notes / BPM )
68 (D2) Kamonene 100% (1082 Notes / BPM )

68 (D2) Carrousel Paradise (947 Notes / BPM 180)
68 (D2) dot death (Steath Remix) (966 Notes / BPM 180)
68 (D2) Randomness Reactor 3 (972 Notes / BPM )
68 (D2) Cutting Circles (900 Notes / BPM 160)
68 (M) State of Emergency (784 Notes / BPM 191)
68 (D2) Starlight (Notes / BPM)
68 (M) Fei Longer (740 Notes / BPM )
68 (D2) Nitrx (839 Notes / BPM )
68 (C) Tambourine Chinois (Notes / BPM)
68 (M) L9 (1077 Notes / BPM 128)
68 (D2) Be Princess (906 Notes / BPM 190)
68 (A) StarmineX -HappyHyperStarmiX- (1255 Notes / BPM 180)
68 (D2) Turbulence (756 Notes / BPM 150)
68 (D2) Aztec Templing (Techno-Titlan mix) (962 Notes / BPM 205)
69 (M) Otter's Dance (Hot Root mix) (861 Notes / BPM )
69 (A) BB Euro (1264 Notes / BPM 182.4)
69 (D2) Wish (For FFR) (1127 Notes / BPM 155)
69 (M) Gacha Gacha Figu@mate (893 Notes / BPM )
69 (A) Pure in Asia (1003 Notes / BPM )
69 (D2) Tougenkyou -H.E.Remix- (1033 Notes / BPM 160)
69 (S) Kick Your A (1038 Notes / BPM 186)
69 (D2) {Frozen} (1438 Notes / BPM 140)
69 (A) Dot Matrix Hero (1000 Notes / BPM 190)
69 (D2) Life Light (933 Notes / BPM 190)
69 (A) Love Coloured Master Spark (1911 Notes / BPM 90-170)
69 (YTBM) Witches Hat (1200 Notes / BPM )
69 (R) Degenerates (1694 Notes / BPM )
69 (D2) Over the Rave (1030 Notes / BPM 160)
69 (D2) Legend (1139 Notes / BPM 190)
69 (M) Ninja Lad (820 Notes / BPM )
69 (A) {Big Boss} (596 Notes / BPM )
69 (A) Border of Maximum (1109 Notes / BPM )
68 (P) Party 4u - HolyNightRemix V2 (666 Notes / BPM 159)[*]
70 (M) Fake Jazz (895 Notes / BPM )
70 (R) Flying High [Heavy] (1869 Notes / BPM ) (How was this a 68? The guitar solo was tricky as hell)
70 (YTBM) Destined Marionette (1130 Notes / BPM )
70 (M) Adult's Sketchbook (869 Notes / BPM 45-115)
70 (S) Blue Noah (2465 Notes / BPM 180)
70 (M) Chlorophyll (1194 Notes / BPM 164)
70 (S) Gradeus (1505 Notes / BPM 180)
70 (D2) Get Down (1151 Notes / BPM 165)
70 (D2) Speedcore Sunday (1171 Notes / BPM )
70 (D2) Epic (1175 Notes / BPM 170)
70 (R) The Epidemic of Unexpected Relapses [Heavy] (1277 Notes / BPM )
71 (C) Classical Insanity (1101 Notes / BPM 175)
71 (M) Splash Beats (842 Notes / BPM 190)
71 (D2) Ascii Art Core (787 Notes / BPM 190)
71 (D2) Air (1940 Notes / BPM 178)
71 (D2) Klung Kung (1668 Notes / BPM 175)
71 (D2) {I Don't Need You Anymore} (1960 Notes / BPM 45-180)
71 (R) Air Sul in G. Rock (1384 Notes / BPM )
71 (A) Shanghai Girl Of Meiji 17 (1919 Notes / BPM 140)
71 (S) End Night (1126 Notes / BPM 150)
71 (M) Szamar Madar (1094 Notes / BPM 174)
71 (M) Do a Barrel Roll! (1043 Notes / BPM )
71 (M) Pretty Green Onions (1604 Notes / BPM 193)
71 (D2) DMYK (1515 Notes / BPM )
]71 (D2) Happy Happy Shining Star! (811 Notes / BPM )
71 (R) Cosmic Orchestra (1590 Notes / BPM 150)
71 (A) The Games We Played, Part 3 (1301 Notes / BPM 21-230)
71 (D2) Nova Pulser (762 Notes / BPM 180)[*]
71 (D2) R176 (998 Notes / BPM 190)
72 (M) Jelly Roll Blues (778 Notes / BPM 144)
72 (S) Shihen (1030 Notes / BPM 198)
72 (P) Procrastination on Paper (1144 Notes / BPM )
72 (M) Pimp Slap (Notes / BPM)
72 (A) Casket of Star (1627 Notes / BPM )
72 (M) We Wish You A Merry XMas (Jazzy Groove Mix) (1462 Notes / BPM )
72 (D2) Hero's Theme (w.i.p.) (1102 Notes / BPM 140)
72 (A) Shining Sword (1617 Notes / BPM)
72 (A) The Final Conflict (1055 Notes / BPM )
72 (A) The Games We Played, Part 1 (1189 Notes / BPM 25-190)
Piano
73 (M) Purple (498 Notes / BPM )
73 (A) Monstrous Turtles! (1384 Notes / BPM 51.5-103)
73 (A) A World Of Piano (1444 Notes / BPM )
73 (A) moon_child -Go with the flow- (1204 Notes / BPM )
73 (M) Piano X Forte (1705 Notes / BPM )
73 (A) Lunar Saturation (1095 Notes / BPM 185)
73 (YTBM) Nebula [she] (1244 Notes / BPM )
73 (S) Blue Army (3330 Notes / BPM 182.2)
73 (M) Pwntendo (1144 Notes / BPM 196)
73 (D2) Ievan Polka (917 Notes / BPM )
73 (M) Final Step (1916 Notes / BPM 150)
73 (M) Garyuutensei (1168 Notes / BPM 86-200)
73 (D2) CRASH the BEAT! (1927 Notes / BPM )
73 (D2) Illumination of the Sky (1095 Notes / BPM )
74 (D2) M.A.M.A. (1263 Notes / BPM 175)
74 (D2) Sympathizer (1928 Notes / BPM 200)
74 (YTBM) Run Through the Stream of Time (2241 Notes / BPM )
74 (D2) X-Tinction (744 Notes / BPM 180)
74 (C) Turkish March (1056 Notes / BPM 110-124)
74 (M) HELLBEAT (504 Notes / BPM 200)
74 (A) Balloon Fever (970 Notes / BPM 192) (This song is NOT 75)
74 (A) The Lunatic Princess (2589 Notes / BPM )
74 (S) Szerencsetlen (2223 Notes / BPM 174)
75 (A) Kil Stage (1134 Notes / BPM )
75 (D2) None Would Escape (1372 Notes / BPM 48-190)
75 (D2) Vertex BETA (1755 Notes / BPM 200)
75 (M) Keep In Mind (1373 Notes / BPM )
75 (YTBM) Bus Rides With People (1066 Notes / BPM )
75 (YTBM) Twelve (1135 Notes / BPM )
75 (P) Kanon-Kanon (1182 Notes / BPM )

75 (S) For FFR (866 Notes / BPM 180)
75 (M) Feldschlatt (Notes / BPM)

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Master (6/6)
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[5.5/6 - For Masters Only]
76 (P) Silence (1482 Notes / BPM 140) (this is seriously the easiest FMO now)
76 (M) Going On Spring Wind (1191 Notes / BPM 141)
76 (M) Novo Mundo (1264 Notes / BPM 140)
76 (M) Choprite (1796 Notes / BPM 100-200)
76 (M) Jeanie and Caroline (1215 Notes / BPM )
76 (C) Black Key Etude (997 Notes / BPM )

76 (R) Southern Cross (2123 Notes / BPM 40-172)
76 (D2) Summer Time Perfume (1666 Notes / BPM )
76 (D2) 300 (1113 Notes / BPM )
77 (S) Lawn Wake IV (1059 Notes / BPM 217)
77 (A) Thrash (2089 Notes / BPM )
77 (S) K8107 (1071 Notes / BPM 180)
77 (YTBM) Largiloquent Dithyramb (1605 Notes / BPM )
77 (M) Hajnal (2000 Notes / BPM 174)
77 (R) The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy] (2495 Notes / BPM )
77 (D2) Scythe of 13 (2154 Notes / BPM )
78 (D) Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit) (1417 Notes / BPM 215)
78 (A) Radio Heads (1784 Notes / BPM )
78 (S) Midnight Dragon (1396 Notes / BPM 180)
78 (M) Epidermis (1277 Notes / BPM 200)
78 (M) Church Bells (1201 Notes / BPM )
78 (S) Rottel-da-station (1218 Notes / BPM 200)
78 (P) AIM Anthem (736 Notes / BPM 110)
78 (A) Night and Day (2504 Notes / BPM )
78 (A) Battle Theme #37 (1337 Notes / BPM )

78 (P) Blue Violet (914 Notes / BPM )
79 (S) Strangeprogram (1442 Notes / BPM 215)
79 (P) Document 13b (1173 Notes / BPM )
79 (YTBM) Kyrie (899 Notes / BPM )
79 (D2) Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran (1817 Notes / BPM 184)
79 (A) Brandish Headless (2044 Notes / BPM )
80 (D2) Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star (1337 Notes / BPM 180)
80 (M) Club (573 Notes / BPM 120)
80 (P) Master Maid (1465 Notes / BPM )
79 (H) Dead and Direct (1443 Notes / BPM )
80 (C) Caprice (1300 Notes / BPM 400)
80 (A) BB Evolution (2631 Notes / BPM 210)
80 (D2) 3020 (1597 Notes / BPM )
80 (D2) RunnyMorning (SGX MIX) (1069 Notes / BPM 160) (Check AAA count, the jack in this song in the middle of that **** makes it harder than BB Evo and Caprice in sooo many ways
80 (R) Bloodmeat [Heavy] (1905 Notes / BPM )
80 (C) bmv .578 (1234 Notes / BPM )
80 (S) Bloodhounds on my Trail (2425 Notes / BPM )
80 (S) World Tour 2004 (3940 Notes / BPM )

81 (A) Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3648 Notes / BPM 49-196)
81 (C) Flight of the Bumblebee (862 Notes / BPM 398) (background issues, AAA count
81 (A) Mario Minor (2450 Notes / BPM 100-430)
81 (YTBM) Perfect Cherry Storm (1072 Notes / BPM )
81 (M) October (1564 Notes / BPM )

82 (A) 4 Chord Touhou (1796 Notes / BPM 175)
82 (C) Piano Etude (Demon Fire) (1687 Notes / BPM 88-201)
82 (R) Eradication (1342 Notes / BPM 200-220)
82 (M) Silly Symphony (2223 Notes / BPM )
82 (D2) Toxiferous Dystopia (1456 Notes / BPM )

83 (A) Big Blue (1370 Notes / BPM 226)
83 (R) Blooddrunk [Heavy] (2275 Notes / BPM 180)
83 (P) Momentary Life (2125 Notes / BPM )
83 (C) Piano Etude (Gymnastics) (1253 Notes / BPM 40-166)
83 (S) He's a Radical Rat (1927 Notes / BPM )

[6/6 - For Guru's Only]
84 (R) Reality (921 Notes / BPM 259)
84 (M) Blue Rose (3622 Notes / BPM 170-180)
84 (M) Frictional Nevada (1325 Notes / BPM 225)
84 (M) Ketsarku Mozgalom (1635 Notes / BPM 174)
84 (A) The Adventures Of Lolo (524 Notes / BPM 225)
84 (D2) Crowdpleaser (1236 Notes / BPM 120)
85 (D2) Nomina Nuda Tenemus (987 Notes / BPM )
85 (S) Pants (3024 Notes / BPM 190)
85 (P) Holy Orders (2758 Notes / BPM )
85 (S) Planet Karma (3075 Notes / BPM )
85 (A) Across Rooftops (2254 Notes / BPM )
85 (M) Integraation (1930 Notes / BPM )
85 (D2) Strawberry Sweetz (3250 Notes / BPM )

86 (M) I Hate The 80s (1008 Notes / BPM )
86 (D2) Kidney Stone (1619 Notes / BPM )
86 (D2) Little God Channel (2814 Notes / BPM )
86 (D2) Necropotence (1695 Notes / BPM )

87 (C) Grand Gallop Chromatique (2361 Notes / BPM 320)
87 (C) Molto Vivace (1177 Notes / BPM 175)
87 (D2) Hardkore Atomic (1034 Notes / BPM )
89 (C) One Minute Waltz (1057 Notes / BPM 160)
89 (YTBM) Schmollbluk (1645 Notes / BPM )
90 (C) Revolutionary Etude (1600 Notes / BPM 148)
90 (P) Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern (1423 Notes / BPM )
90 (C) La Campanella (2888 Notes / BPM )

91 (D2) Eclipse (Solar) (1445 Notes / BPM 165)
92 (A) Almost There (1922 Notes / BPM )
95 (C) Death Piano (2453 Notes / BPM 43-200)
96 (M) Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion (1600 Notes / BPM )
This list is ancient and already ahead of the first page, we should start updating, anyone want to help, and place/move around new files?
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RAN - damn hard for an 11 (83 if I ever saw it), possible borderline FGO, but someone without a bias towards difficulty increases on jacks should give this another look. Another issue with this song is the ridiculously varying framer placements. The notes per second doesn't do this song justice, because I'm sure where the difficulty is highest, it's probably peaking in the 14/15 area, which is pretty gross.

Op. 10 No. 9 - easy 11 (76, or 77 factoring in the rigidity of the flow for jump-jacks and the short vibra-jacks), jacks are quite the combo-breaker though.

Bury the Hatchet - change to 10 (73-75, subjectively movable for speed [75], or lack or difficult patterns [73], or a balance between the two [74]).

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Songs need to be rated on their respective difficulties to PA and FC, not by how inherently easy the patterns are. Saying Master Maid should be a VC is completely ridiculous considering there's only 22 AAAs, and it's been out for a while. But sure, AAA count may be biased, so let's go to raw song difficulty.

Master Maid: 1465 notes, 128 seconds - 11.44 TPS, and this is with a LONG introduction to top it off. Some of the FGOs average around this many taps per second too. The rolls (mathematically) aren't possible to cheat, and the song boasts a ton of tricky patterns with constant broken jumpstream. Let's not forget the fact that there are four HUGE rolls, not just one. If Master Maid is a VC, then let's change songs like DeVouR to low FMOs because hey, they're just rolls, right?
alright, understood. Maybe this one opinion was wayyy off from everyone else. But srsly, no ones been this vicious until I posted about Master Maid, actually, I haven't gotten into a fight in this thread until this. People must really think my post on Master Maid was ridiculously stupid, except JX, who quoted but didn't say anything
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I figure, it's really not worth butting heads with people anymore. I had my huge blow-up in the Queue/Batch discussion thread, took a few days off the site, and then came back with a much different mindset. Waging war with someone on the internet is pretty stupid to me, now. Disagreements are nice and speaking your mind is good, but blowing up for no reason really doesn't work anymore for me as the right thing to do.
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Stavie I wouldn't have a problem with you suggesting difficulty rating but really every single rating I've seen you give harder songs was based on how well you could do on the song vs how well you could do on other songs.
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Also stavie I never only rage at you I do it to everyone that puts their skills ahead of everyone else its just that you do it the most
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Also stavie I never only rage at you I do it to everyone that puts their skills ahead of everyone else its just that you do it the most
k, that's understandable, I will definitely work on being better about it. Sorry about all this. We cool?

Also, hope this isn't out of line, but who here thinks Floating Hour should be low FMO? Idk, it's up to you guys, clearly, but I think the mini jacks, bursts, weird colored parts, and annoying end make it a 76, but idk, I could see it a 75. Not to mention it has hands, and idk if we started using hands in VC files yet. If so awesome, if not, wut?

EDIT: Wow, only Natural is a bitch too, that trill, but that could be a 75
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RAN - some 32nd trills and jumpjacks (170bpm) are pretty difficult to hit, others aren't that hard though. 83-85, possible FGO.

Bury the Hatchet - looked it again, could be 74-75.
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Floating Hour was tough. I'm very surprised to have sightread that - it's very technical. Some of the 32nd bursts are pretty tricky as well. I'm all for putting that to a For Masters Only.
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