Super Bowl '09

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by Syhto

I hate it when people are way too obsessed over any sport, they become all assholish and don't let anyone have an opinion

its sort of like politics

I can't believe anyone would type two pages of text in response to someone saying "i hate the steelers," because they like them. lol, wow

Uhh, it's called discourse. I assume you might be familiar with serious discussions beyond pleasantries..?

I can't stand it. Every time I offer a detailed and thoroughly explained opinion based on reason and substantiated with fact, I get told that my arguments for it mean I don't accept the opinions of others.

I have no problem with the opinions of others. Once again, as I have repeatedly explained throughout my years here, I expect you to back up what you're thinking. I don't care what you think, so long as it's a valid and thoroughly thought out opinion reasoned out and based upon fact. It may be an opinion, but it must be a valid conclusion based on fact, otherwise it's a faulty and invalid opinion based off of crude conjectures. That's a pitiful excuse, calling something you infer your opinion and then often times playing it off as fact, going between one thing and the other as it becomes convenient.

It has nothing to do with my like of the Steelers. It has to do with my respect for the game in general. I was just as heated in my discussion of last year's super bowl, and often times I defended the Patriots, a team which by many people's standards I'm supposed to be hating simply because they bested my favorite team in the playoffs. But whatever, keep your stupid inferences and assume away, as you'll do anyways.

so when he said "hate" first off you didn't know what he meant by it

Uhh, there's not exactly much room for interpretation.

1 a: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b: extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work>2: an object of hatred <a generation whose finest hate had been big business — F. L. Paxson>

Anything else would be a misappropriation of terms, and that's certainly not my fault.

Secondly, everyone has their own love of the game.

You mean, it's okay for people to be ignorant tools.

It would be cool if people could not be asses for once, but I know that's too much to ask

Oh yeah, I was being an asshole because I was intense in discussing things, while also requiring that in your discussions you use fact to back your arguments. Jesus, I'm assuming you never had to take debate classes or anything of the sort. You'd fail miserably.

You're allowed to think the Cardinals will win. You're allowed to think they've got a better chance, though if I present my arguments, that doesn't mean it invalidates your opinion as long as it's based on fact. (as an example, if you think the Cardinals will win because of their receiving talent, and how well their defense is playing, I will accept that, and counter it with an opinion of my own in the interest of discussion. If you say the Cardinals will win because the Cardinals beat the Eagles, I'm going to get irritated with you.) It simply means we are discussing it and trying to learn from each other. I like hearing the opinions of others when they're valid. I am a listener in that sense, and I always seek to improve myself based upon that.

[UnkownMan]

cardinals

nuff said

[dore]

OrganisM, I think people would have less trouble with your opinions if you didn't write an essay about every topic. You may have a lot to say, but people on an online forum don't care; condense your ideas.

[funmonkey54]

Not completely true dore.
I personally enjoy reading his points of view and having them thoroughly explained.
Although, I doubt this is true for others.
So, a dumber down version tacked on the end would probably be useful to those with the attention span of a muffin.

[NFD]

So OrganisM, if the Cardinals win, will you apologize to my ego?

[Syhto]

It's called being a snob organism.
Whether that can qualify as assholery, is open to your interpretation.

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Originally Posted by UnkownMan

cardinals

nuff said

I love messin with these Cardinal fans. XD

[TC_Halogen]

Cardinals all the way. I want the underdogs to win so the cocky fans of Pittsburgh can zip their mouths. >=)

[maddenman77]

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

I love messin with these Cardinal fans. XD

The Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna kick some big flabby tushie this year!!

[footbull3196]

As much as I hate to say it, I really don't think the Cardinals stand a chance. They have not faced a defense as tough as the Steelers, who were both #1 overall and #1 against the run. The Cardinals running game sucks already, and their defense sucks worse.

Let's face it: The Cardinals managed to get hot for a few games. Now, they will struggle again.

My prediction is:

Steelers 20
Cardinals 3

I really don't see how this will be a high scoring game.

[NFD]

The bull in your avatar is crying because your have your hand up it's ass footbull. Now I'm not sure if that is it's 4th leg, or it's wang, but I'm gonna say because you have your hand up it's ass, it's the wang.

[footbull3196]

Originally Posted by NFD

The bull in your avatar is crying because your have your hand up it's ass footbull. Now I'm not sure if that is it's 4th leg, or it's wang, but I'm gonna say because you have your hand up it's ass, it's the wang.

It's my foot (FOOTbull, get it, haha).

[Dorby]

steelers

also lol @ OrganisM

[funmonkey54]

Originally Posted by footbull3196

It's my foot (FOOTbull, get it, haha).

Looks like a hand to me. =/

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Cardinals all the way. I want the underdogs to win so the cocky fans of Pittsburgh can zip their mouths. >=)

Uhh, actually, the Steelers weren't exactly favorites for much of anything until late in the season. The only reason the Cardinals are painted as such underdogs is because the media has been so heavy-handed in discussing the matchup. Before the Super Bowl was set, and certainly before the playoffs, the Steelers were hardly called heavy-weights. I can't speak for all of Steeler Nation, and there are obnoxious fans of every team, though I wouldn't call most Steelers fans obnoxious. It's pride in and appreciation of our football team. The Steelers mean more to Pittsburgh than perhaps (arguably, so just give me that at lest) any other sports franchise. Don't mistake passion for arrogance. The Steelers fans have stuck by their team through thick and thin. I personally know someone who's been a fan of the Steelers since the 40's.

Originally Posted by Syhto

It's called being a snob organism.
Whether that can qualify as assholery, is open to your interpretation.

Uh, no. Demanding an intelligent debate is not called being a snob. There aren't words to describe the tone of what you're saying. Cut it out; if was humorous at first, if only because you're an unmitigated tool, but now it's wearing thin.

HAY GUYS HEERS THE SUMMERY:

@TC: Minority, not majority.

@Syhto:

[Syhto]

Everyone is wrong and you're right

p.s. superbowl party in vc tomorrow

[OrganisM]

Originally Posted by Syhto

Everyone is wrong and you're right

Finally, people understand me. I'm glad we can get along alright.

[roundb0x]

obviously the steelers are going to win because their name is much cooler

[Bangcrashboom]

Originally Posted by OrganisM

*insert huge picture here*


LOLLOLOLOL

i think you need to make that pic just a little bit bigger...

Secondly, i think the Steelers will win, but i prefer the cardinals to win because i do not like the steelers...

[Syhto]

Why did you quote that
now this page is ****ed up too.