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Old 12-14-2010, 10:43 AM   #261
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This is terribly unfortunate news...I've seen Jellygod, both inside and outside the forums, so many times. I am sad that I did not get to know him well; regardless, I pay my respects and offer my condolences to his family and friends. He is certainly a friendly and sociable person; the incredible amount of support given in this thread, and by such a great number of people, speaks for itself. He definitely deserves the kindnesses.

Rest peacefully, Steve.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:48 PM   #262
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...........

I come back to this site after two years, and find out about this tragedy.

I cried.

Steve was a very kind person; I remember him very well bouncing around profile chat. Funny guy; always managed to bring a smile to my face. I am saddened by his passing. I wish the best for his family, and friends.

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Old 12-15-2010, 11:37 PM   #263
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I saw this in Who_Cares thread & it made me smile ^.^

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Old 12-15-2010, 11:48 PM   #264
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R.I.P. Jelly, that's really sad to hear. Really nice guy....
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:53 PM   #265
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i used to think suicide was just so stupid and anyone who would want to off themselves was just as dumb

until you yourself entertain the thought of killing yourself, or go so far as to attempt suicide...or if you realize how many people have suicidal ideations themselves. To our minds it makes sense that if you want to get rid of your tribulations one way is to flat out die. that will wipe things. This is partially true, but it can only increase the suffering, pain, and grief more than it can alleviate.

now i have no intention of being incendiary, i have the utmost respect and compassion that one could feel towards someone that i've never met nor talked with much, but committing suicide is one of the most selfish things that you can do...

please don't take that last statement the wrong way. i am not saying that jellygod is selfish. but seeing this tragic incident we can understand how killing oneself forces those around you to become very concerned, thoughtful, and confused as to why such a thing would happen
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:21 PM   #266
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Default Re: Passing away of Steve aka Jellygod

Well of course everyone who knew him is going to be concerned with what brought this on. I've thought about him every day since I heard. It bothers me because I'm always the type to feel like I need to understand how my friends think and what motivates their actions. I never saw this coming. It's easier for me to not blame myself or wonder what I could have done because I barely knew him and only met him once. I can't imagine what his family is going through.

But you're right in that those who contemplate suicide rarely think about or minimize the feelings of those who care about them. I don't consider this selfish, per se. That just seems to be the observed pattern. Whatever suffering that jellygod was going through is certainly at the forefront of all of the minds of his close relations.

PS - Somehow I managed to tape over all of my footage from the FFR Convention in 2008 without ever getting it to my computer. I feel incredibly stupid. I had footage of jellygod ;_;
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:48 PM   #267
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i used to think suicide was just so stupid and anyone who would want to off themselves was just as dumb

until you yourself entertain the thought of killing yourself, or go so far as to attempt suicide...or if you realize how many people have suicidal ideations themselves. To our minds it makes sense that if you want to get rid of your tribulations one way is to flat out die. that will wipe things. This is partially true, but it can only increase the suffering, pain, and grief more than it can alleviate.

now i have no intention of being incendiary, i have the utmost respect and compassion that one could feel towards someone that i've never met nor talked with much, but committing suicide is one of the most selfish things that you can do...

please don't take that last statement the wrong way. i am not saying that jellygod is selfish. but seeing this tragic incident we can understand how killing oneself forces those around you to become very concerned, thoughtful, and confused as to why such a thing would happen
I think it's actually a lot more selfish to even make the assertion that suicide is selfish. You're putting your own feelings ahead of those of the deceased, and despite whatever you may feel about the person in question, if he was driven to suicide it is probable that his feelings of despair or whatnot were far more pressing and weighty than your love for them.

That is to say, if he is really in considerable pain and cannot stand to live, I think it's selfish for you to look at it in a "look at the pain he caused ME" context without realizing that his own pain is probably far greater.
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I think it's actually a lot more selfish to even make the assertion that suicide is selfish. You're putting your own feelings ahead of those of the deceased, and despite whatever you may feel about the person in question, if he was driven to suicide it is probable that his feelings of despair or whatnot were far more pressing and weighty than your love for them.

That is to say, if he is really in considerable pain and cannot stand to live, I think it's selfish for you to look at it in a "look at the pain he caused ME" context without realizing that his own pain is probably far greater.
You have my utmost respect. I've never heard anyone say this, and it is absolutely true. I think I know a few people that need to take a look at this.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:59 PM   #269
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But you're right in that those who contemplate suicide rarely think about or minimize the feelings of those who care about them.
this is absolutely and unbelievably false and not only that but also personally, slightly offensive and i can't believe you would even say that. please stop. agreed 100% with yieldsign, as well.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:03 PM   #270
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I think it's actually a lot more selfish to even make the assertion that suicide is selfish. You're putting your own feelings ahead of those of the deceased, and despite whatever you may feel about the person in question, if he was driven to suicide it is probable that his feelings of despair or whatnot were far more pressing and weighty than your love for them.

That is to say, if he is really in considerable pain and cannot stand to live, I think it's selfish for you to look at it in a "look at the pain he caused ME" context without realizing that his own pain is probably far greater.
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You have my utmost respect. I've never heard anyone say this, and it is absolutely true. I think I know a few people that need to take a look at this.
You guys didn't understand what jchin was saying. It's not about putting your own feelings ahead of the deceased. It's the fact that somebody is suicidal doesn't think about those he or she leaves behind. Nobody's arguing that anybody's feelings are more important than anybody else's and such an argument is petty and childish.

And you're missing the point. This thread is about jelly.

EDIT: sona, I know what I'm talking about. If you want to talk about it with me do it in PMs.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:06 PM   #271
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You guys didn't understand what jchin was saying. It's not about putting your own feelings ahead of the deceased. It's the fact that somebody is suicidal doesn't think about those he or she leaves behind. Nobody's arguing that anybody's feelings are more important than anybody else's and such an argument is petty and childish.

And you're missing the point. This thread is about jelly.
You misunderstood me, actually. I hadn't of read anything else that was written to be honest. I read what YieldSign wrote, knew that people I know say that "suicide is selfish" and yes, they have their own reasons for thinking it is. I was directing my comment towards them without pointing out names. I think that people need to think about what YieldSign wrote.

No harm meant against anyone in this thread to be honest, at least from me.
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but this is completely false. i mean i don't really want to argue this obviously because it's sort of tarnishing a thread that's supposed to be in memory of someone we all loved but to say that someone contemplates suicide doesn't think about the effect it will have on those around him/her isn't even, like, close to the truth. it's pretty much just completely wrong
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:16 PM   #273
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I disagree. Suicide *is* selfish. But so is discrediting the problems of someone who wants to commit suicide. To be selfish is to put your own needs/thoughts/opinions above others -- without empathy.

You may be in quite a lot of pain, but killing yourself means that you are going to tear apart those that are close to you. Losing someone is very, very hard -- emotionally, intellectually, psychologically, financially, logistically, and spiritually.

Similarly, though, it's just as tactless to say "suicide is cowardly and is reserved for those that can't deal with their own problems." Such armchair logic is laughable -- sometimes problems can be so immense to the point where living is suffering. We have a natural inclination to live... you have to be suffering quite hard deep down in order to ever *seriously* attempt to take your own life.

It's selfish on both sides. It's always sad, and it's always a shame. People love us more than we'd care to acknowledge sometimes, and all it takes is a simple reaching out to get the help you need. That's what friends and family are for. It's so unfortunate that jellygod felt that this was his only way out.

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Old 12-16-2010, 04:25 PM   #274
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I wish he would have at least talked to somebody about whatever it was that was ailing him...maybe we could have helped.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:26 PM   #275
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I can't believe people are even arguing in this thread. This thread was created to mourn the passing of an FFR member, not debate over whether he was selfish or not. If you want to debate over the morality of suicide, then go to Critical Thinking.
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Take that ish to critical thinking, guys. We're here to honor the memory of Steve.
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Take that ish to critical thinking, guys. We're here to honor the memory of Steve.
My sentiments exactly.

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Old 12-17-2010, 04:58 AM   #278
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I didn't really talk to him all that much, but he was a genuinely friendly guy to me. I just don't know what else to say other than how terrible this is, and how I wish it didn't happen.

Rest In Peace, Jelly. You'll be missed here, too.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:38 PM   #279
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Jelly. :[ You were always so nice. I agree with everyone that you seemed so cheerful. Please rest in peace, dude. Condolences to your friends and family.
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RIP. my thoughts go out to his family and friends.
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