Old 07-31-2020, 01:34 AM   #1
gortern
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
gortern's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6
Smile Tips to improve?

Hello everyone, i've played this game for on and off for about 11 years now but i've never really interacted with the community. I've had advice from a friend to get me to a decent point but he has since moved on to other things in his life. I play with spread keys, QW ]\ works very well for me, I also play with a decent speed 2.9 on Rv3. i wouldnt say im a bad player, i can FC 60s but to me theres alot to be improved apon. My main issue is just reading constant high density patterns, (16 nps or so) my brain just kinda shuts off. I know this issue can be addressed with a higher scroll speed but when it gets too fast i cannot identify the notes fast enough to hit them within a marvelous or perfect window so im kinda stumped. Should i just accept that i may just not be physically able to get to the 70s-80s level? or is there something im just not seeing to help me improve?
gortern is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 02:35 AM   #2
M0nkeyz
Simfile Judge
Simfile JudgeDifficulty ConsultantFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
M0nkeyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 476
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Try turning the rate down on the songs with dense patterns to a point where they are readable and then gradually turn the rate up again.
M0nkeyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 10:27 AM   #3
Wayward Vagabond
Confirmed Heartbreaker
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Wayward Vagabond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,856
Default Re: Tips to improve?

You just need to play more consistently
__________________
Wayward Vagabond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 10:37 AM   #4
rushyrulz
Digital Dancing!
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Music ProducerD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
rushyrulz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 80 billion club, NE
Age: 31
Posts: 12,979
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond View Post
You just need to play more consistently
consistently here meaning play the game more often.
__________________


rushyrulz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 10:53 AM   #5
Josemba
.
D8 Godly KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
Josemba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Age: 30
Posts: 251
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Etterna
Josemba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 11:03 AM   #6
storn42
RIP Storn D0-D0
Simfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
storn42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,453
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gortern View Post
My main issue is just reading constant high density patterns, (16 nps or so) my brain just kinda shuts off. I know this issue can be addressed with a higher scroll speed but when it gets too fast i cannot identify the notes fast enough to hit them within a marvelous or perfect window so im kinda stumped.
I think the magic trick you need is smaller notes (and maybe a slower note speed) I currently play with 60% note size and 2.8 scroll speed (used to be 3.0) its a dream to read. the notes are much farther apart so but they dont get faster so you still have time to react, but easier reading. You'll have a limit similar to scroll speed but still be able to get some more note space out of it.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiz View Post
"I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
Quote:
Originally Posted by the sun fan View Post
I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe View Post


storn42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 01:47 PM   #7
Gingerham
FFR Player
D7 Elite Keysmasher
 
Gingerham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Age: 26
Posts: 39
Default Re: Tips to improve?

I'm gonna give the same advice I tend to give people about your skill level who are stuck where they are and say play etterna. I do think if you're serious about the game etterna is just better tailored to fundamental improvement (speed, stam, etc.). I played ffr and got stuck at around D4 forever. Then I switched to stepmania and was D6 within a year which I think a lot of people improve even faster than that.

I think FFR is more catered towards pattern studying/figuring out how to hit tricky patterns but isn't as good necessarily for speed/stamina training which could be a reason you're stuck. Also etterna is better for improving your reading on dense stuff imo.

Etterna also helps with working towards improving a certain skill set (speed charts, stamina charts, tech, etc.) since there are a lot of charts that are focused towards a certain one. So if you feel lacking in a certain area etterna makes it a lot easier to find a lot of charts catered towards your weakness. It's also not a coincidence that most of the people in the top 100 are primarily etterna players.

Last edited by Gingerham; 07-31-2020 at 01:51 PM..
Gingerham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 04:51 PM   #8
Wayward Vagabond
Confirmed Heartbreaker
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Wayward Vagabond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,856
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rushyrulz View Post
consistently here meaning play the game more often.
Yes
__________________
Wayward Vagabond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2020, 07:53 PM   #9
gortern
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
gortern's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6
Default Re: Tips to improve?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gingerham View Post
I'm gonna give the same advice I tend to give people about your skill level who are stuck where they are and say play etterna. I do think if you're serious about the game etterna is just better tailored to fundamental improvement (speed, stam, etc.). I played ffr and got stuck at around D4 forever. Then I switched to stepmania and was D6 within a year which I think a lot of people improve even faster than that.

I think FFR is more catered towards pattern studying/figuring out how to hit tricky patterns but isn't as good necessarily for speed/stamina training which could be a reason you're stuck. Also etterna is better for improving your reading on dense stuff imo.

Etterna also helps with working towards improving a certain skill set (speed charts, stamina charts, tech, etc.) since there are a lot of charts that are focused towards a certain one. So if you feel lacking in a certain area etterna makes it a lot easier to find a lot of charts catered towards your weakness. It's also not a coincidence that most of the people in the top 100 are primarily etterna players.
I'll check it out, ty
gortern is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution