TWG CLXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Also, I cannot verify "why" Syhto got NK'd.

There's even the scenario where she wasn't the NK and got Vigi'd while town blocked the real NK. (e.g: Charu)

Then they should come out and say as such. But then again, a killing role that can't be verified ever is pretty risky in a no flip game... I'd understand why they would withhold.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Also, I cannot verify "why" Syhto got NK'd.

There's even the scenario where she wasn't the NK and got Vigi'd while town blocked the real NK. (e.g: Charu)

hakulyte

No shit we can’t verify “why” sytho was killed it’s called a theory for a reason.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Sounds like a bunch of overly verbose nonsense to me.

What have charu/MML/indy done that rank them higher then null. You’ve been ranking me scummy even though you acknowledge I don’t have enough content. Not enough content = null unless you think i’ve been intentionally not providing enough content. Then you can say it’s scummy.

Do you think i’ve been intentionally lowposting?

See: this

[DarkManticoreX2]

I am too angry to play twg right now and it’s coming out in my posts.

Goodnight.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I am too angry to play twg right now and it’s coming out in my posts.

Goodnight.

I truly didn't mean to make you upset with my jab. Maybe a quip back, but not sudden aggro.

[Hakulyte]

Considering self-voting because I don't enjoy making people frustrated and I'd rather quit than deal with that.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Considering self-voting because I don't enjoy making people frustrated and I'd rather quit than deal with that.

I feel you, but its part of the game, intentional or not.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

See: this

Sure so when I look at that post all I see is a poorly constructed narrative where you try to read me wolfy.

You ignore the response I made to MML in post 243 when he asked me why I thought the things I did, and you also ignore the fact that sytho herself acknowledged the mindmeld we had on pearl’s slot post 675.

So when you say we had a manufactured mindmeld I say bullshit you aren’t reading the game with an intent to solve, you’re pushing a narrative.

[DarkManticoreX2]

I’ve been active in the game for two hours and I already know exactly why you the read you have on me is bad. Shouldn’t that be your job to figure out?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Sure so when I look at that post all I see is a poorly constructed narrative where you try to read me wolfy.

You ignore the response I made to MML in post 243 when he asked me why I thought the things I did, and you also ignore the fact that sytho herself acknowledged the mindmeld we had on pearl’s slot post 675.

So when you say we had a manufactured mindmeld I say bullshit you aren’t reading the game with an intent to solve, you’re pushing a narrative.

How do you solve games if it's not by pushing narratives and testing the waters ? I mean, sure you can pull better posts than I do, but that's because content was created by a pile of narratives in the first place.

They're both necessary. You also gain validity in theory due to Syhto being most likely the NK which means she would be town.

At same time, if I ask myself why Syhto died specifically, it could be because of this.

[Hakulyte]

It's like we're playing hot potato with what happened assuming Syhto was town.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Both you and indy have indirectly/directly presented an avenue to remove a player from the game not due to content or fact or rationale. You have both said the equivalent of “let’s lynch antiperal because he’ll be a no show. This feels like an attempt to powerwolf through a weak town player.

What worries me more is that people think it might be a decent idea. If I read correctly we don’t get cardflips, so not knowing antipearl’s alignment when he dies gives us nothing and no one to blame on either side. It’s a waste of a day phase pursuing it and simple feels wolf driven.



I like sytho because she felt similarly about your cagey “I’ll lynch anyone under 5 posts post”

And I have all sorts of different feelings on sunfan right now, I like his current position on pearl, but that read could vacillate somewhat wildly as the game progresses depending on what pearl does or doesn’t do.

You're assuming anti-pearl is town based on non existant content.

The no card flip part is great, but at same time, if your end game is with a pile of low activity players, how are you even going to get somewhere ?

Your post is definitely valid. I'm just saying that there's 2 ways to approach this.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I've read up to this post.

I'm not responding to anything specific.

I thought about making references to neee allegedly pushing me or SunFan's string of good days to prove I at least read the thread, but I probably won't bother right now.

Speaking of MML, I'm starting to wonder what's up with the "not responding" part.

I guess your vote makes sense on paper.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I’ve been active in the game for two hours and I already know exactly why you the read you have on me is bad. Shouldn’t that be your job to figure out?

My game would be very different if I had more free time, I'm pretty sure yours would be as well.

[Hakulyte]

I guess you're null to me now. I have to recognize the effort you did here.

[Hakulyte]

I think Raeko has 0 post this phase and there's a hidden posting requirement.

Probably something to keep in mind.

[Hakulyte]

unvote

I guess I'll hard reset.

[DaBackpack]

this is apparently my main social outlet so let it be known that I stayed up until 9am building a presentation for Friday

time to die

[DaBackpack]

also haku totally just caved to manti's pressure, upped his read on him to placate him, and diverted attention on to MML

[DarkManticoreX2]

So Haku, I need you to answer this question, because it’s going to directly feed into whether or not I try to lynch you or not. You ask “How do you solve games if not by pushing narratives” and while you should be pushing narratives you believe to be true, you should also be evaluating your own narratives to see if they make sense. When you made the long post you linked me to, both of the posts I quoted below were in the thread and they directly correlate to each other, so why would you say the first post is useless without explanations when the second post already exists?

To be fair you quoted both posts, but out of order and the second post is explained as “I don’t think Manti actually thinks this”. So when I say there’s a difference between trying to solve a player which is a towny thing to do, and push a narrative to lynch without reevaluating which is a scummy thing to do. Your post leans closer to the second because it doesn’t look like you took the two posts together and went “oh there is reasoning for why Manti thinks those things” maybe that post wasn’t completely useless like i’m Saying it is.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Things Manti thinks currently

MML bad
Ind bad
Sunfan good or sunfan+pearl bad or sunfan wolf!defending town! Pearl for cred
Sytho good

That is all the things I think.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Both you and indy have indirectly/directly presented an avenue to remove a player from the game not due to content or fact or rationale. You have both said the equivalent of “let’s lynch antiperal because he’ll be a no show. This feels like an attempt to powerwolf through a weak town player.

What worries me more is that people think it might be a decent idea. If I read correctly we don’t get cardflips, so not knowing antipearl’s alignment when he dies gives us nothing and no one to blame on either side. It’s a waste of a day phase pursuing it and simple feels wolf driven.



I like sytho because she felt similarly about your cagey “I’ll lynch anyone under 5 posts post”

And I have all sorts of different feelings on sunfan right now, I like his current position on pearl, but that read could vacillate somewhat wildly as the game progresses depending on what pearl does or doesn’t do.

[roundbox]

Still catching up, but people wanting to lynch manti for inactivity lack hindsight of prior games where his activity levels are similar, especially given he said his activity would be low in pretty much every single game. Why are people so scared of Manti??

I'm liking Charu even more now (even with his manti vote, not sure if he's changed it) with his post on "call my post worthless and lynch me plz" sounding like the appeal of a townie who just can't get the radar off of him