Buy a truck, get an AK-47

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

No he is not telling you to go buy a gun in any way. He is just offering it as a promotion if buy a truck. I don't even understand how he is telling to go buy a gun.

If you look at the topic on digg, you would see that people discussed how the commercial made people want to go and buy guns lol.

[bender5]

It only makes people "want" to any more than they would because they never think about it. Hell, this commercial is speaking to me that it is a good idea. I am now 18, and I work as a traveling salesman so I need to have some sort of protection.

Now if he were offering free TV's it would be the same concept. Just a different money amount. Seeing the commercial might make someone think, "Oh cool free TV I kind of want one, and I've been considering a new truck for a long time. Let's buy now."

Now swap the word TV with AK-47 or any other gun. Same exact fucking scenario.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by bender5

It only makes people "want" to any more than they would because they never think about it. Hell, this commercial is speaking to me that it is a good idea. I am now 18, and I work as a traveling salesman so I need to have some sort of protection.

Now if he were offering free TV's it would be the same concept. Just a different money amount. Seeing the commercial might make someone think, "Oh cool free TV I kind of want one, and I've been considering a new truck for a long time. Let's buy now."

Now swap the word TV with AK-47 or any other gun. Same exact fucking scenario.

That's kind of what I said except I said how he's telling you to buy a gun. Oh well lol.

[Chachazero1]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

If you look at the topic on digg, you would see that people discussed how the commercial made people want to go and buy guns lol.

So what? even if it did make some people want to buy guns, that was not it's intended purpose. I also want to know, whats wrong with having a gun? if you went through the proper legal channels, it shoud be perfectly acceptable.

As per your earlier comment about how playing paintball made them want to "Join the army and shoot people" that is really not conclusive of the people who will be receiving these voucher because 1. Your friends were probably just messing around, talking about doing something and actually doing it are two completely different things. 2. I know plenty of people who play paint ball and not ONE of them at any time has expressed the desire to shoot people with real guns simply because they used the the paintball gun.
3. There are tons of people who use real guns for sport, or have a gun for self defense, including several of my friends parents, and not a single one of them has suddenly wanted to go on a killing spree just because they held and fired a real gun.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

So what? even if it did make some people want to buy guns, that was not it's intended purpose. I also want to know, whats wrong with having a gun? if you went through the proper legal channels, it shoud be perfectly acceptable.

As per your earlier comment about how playing paintball made them want to "Join the army and shoot people" that is really not conclusive of the people who will be receiving these voucher because 1. Your friends were probably just messing around, talking about doing something and actually doing it are two completely different things. 2. I know plenty of people who play paint ball and not ONE of them at any time has expressed the desire to shoot people with real guns simply because they used the the paintball gun.
3. There are tons of people who use real guns for sport, or have a gun for self defense, including several of my friends parents, and not a single one of them has suddenly wanted to go on a killing spree just because they held and fired a real gun.

I never said it wasn't acceptable to own a gun.
1.) Those people weren't my friends, I stated that they were players.
2.) I used it as an example, I don't care if you heard any or not.
3.) There are also tons of people who go and kill with guns. And also I didn't say everyone was going to have that reaction. I said it's a possibility, and it most likely has happened. Actually it did happen in my old neighborhood some time ago. A guy took a pistol and killed many people in a trailer park near me. For what reason, there was no reason. He killed innocent people for the hell of it.

[Grandiagod]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

No I'm not saying that's the only reason a person is going to buy a car. I'm saying that now it's an even easier way to get rifles. And you say that it's easy to get guns illegally as is, but I'm talking about a perspective as a casual human being. What if the person doesn't know how to get guns illegally? Sure he has to buy a car, or he could just find out how to do it illegally, but doing it this way is safe and easy. I'm not stating any facts or anything, I just don't think it's a great idea to get a gun when you buy a car. It's not needed unless if you're in a real bad neighborhood where crimes happen everyday in one town.

Are you stupid?

How is buying a car ****ing easier than going to a gun shop?

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Grandiagod

Are you stupid?

How is buying a car ****ing easier than going to a gun shop?

Yes I am, thanks for noticing. :0

And I suggest you read all the posts.

[Chachazero1]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

I never said it wasn't acceptable to own a gun.
1.) Those people weren't my friends, I stated that they were players.
2.) I used it as an example, I don't care if you heard any or not.
3.) There are also tons of people who go and kill with guns. And also I didn't say everyone was going to have that reaction. I said it's a possibility, and it most likely has happened. Actually it did happen in my old neighborhood some time ago. A guy took a pistol and killed many people in a trailer park near me. For what reason, there was no reason. He killed innocent people for the hell of it.

Well, than why do you even object to this? the people who get them will more than likely just have them for self defense. The guy who committed the crime in your old trailer park was probably mentally unstable to begin with, and more than likely was illegally in possession of the pistol anyways.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

Well, than why do you even object to this? the people who get them will more than likely just have them for self defense. The guy who committed the crime in your old trailer park was probably mentally unstable to begin with, and more than likely was illegally in possession of the pistol anyways.

Hey man, not everyones mind is stable. I'm just saying that if you're going to sell something and have an added bonus, at least let it be something that isn't so harmful towards others. That's why in my state "Illinois", they had a event where everyone gathered and wanted to have a rule where the right to bear arms was minimized. A person may buy a pistol once a year or so.

[Chachazero1]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

Hey man, not everyones mind is stable. I'm just saying that if you're going to sell something and have an added bonus, at least let it be something that isn't so harmful towards others. That's why in my state "Illinois", they had a event where everyone gathered and wanted to have a rule where the right to bear arms was minimized. A person may buy a pistol once a year or so.

My point is that the system set up for the legal purchase of guns is set up to prevent those mentally unstable people from getting guns. And the voucher that this is giving out still requires the people trying to get the gun to go through the proper background checks and physiological needed to even be able to own a gun.
Those mentally unstable people who get and commit crimes with guns always get the guns illegally, and therefore could not get an AK47 or ANY other gun for that matter with the voucher that is ONLY good at these stores that are legally licensed to sell guns, who will not sell the gun to the people who are not recognized as mentally fit by the test.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

My point is that the system set up for the legal purchase of guns is set up to prevent those mentally unstable people from getting guns. And the voucher that this is giving out still requires the people trying to get the gun to go through the proper background checks and physiological needed to even be able to own a gun.
Those mentally unstable people who get and commit crimes with guns always get the guns illegally, and therefore could not get an AK47 or ANY other gun for that matter with the voucher that is ONLY good at these stores that are legally licensed to sell guns, who will not sell the gun to the people who are not recognized as mentally fit by the test.

Even if that may be, a person who is normal can still change with the possession of it. Once again, I don't see the purpose of advertising something that's harmful towards others.

[Chachazero1]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

Even if that may be, a person who is normal can still change with the possession of it. Once again, I don't see the purpose of advertising something that's harmful towards others.

By that logic, we should ban all movies, TV shows, and video games with gun violence because they make firing a gun look "cool" and to be perfectly honest are far more powerful than a guy in Mississippi mentioning that he gives away vouchers for guns with the purchase of a $20,000 truck.

In saying that any normal person can just pick up a gun and all of a sudden want to kill people, you are using the same argument people like Jack Tompson (however you spell that) and the like are using to get violent video games banned.

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

By that logic, we should ban all movies, TV shows, and video games with gun violence because they make firing a gun look "cool" and to be perfectly honest are far more powerful than a guy in Mississippi mentioning that he gives away vouchers for guns with the purchase of a $20,000 truck.

In saying that any normal person can just pick up a gun and all of a sudden want to kill people, you are using the same argument people like Jack Tompson (however you spell that) and the like are using to get violent video games banned.

Meh, this is never going to end lol.
I'm off to bed.

[A2P]

On a serious note I'm not against owning guns but the guy in the video makes everybody look bad lmfao

[Commandersa1]

Originally Posted by Superfreak04

Meh, this is never going to end lol.
I'm off to bed.

At least you got to up your post count by a lot!

[Blue Bird]

So apparently, from what I've read, Superfreak04 is saying that the voucher makes AK-47 easier to get. But he also says that AK-47s are rare in shops, right?

So this means that, even with the voucher, you'd still have to hand it over to a shop that HAS the AK-47, right?

How is that different than simply marching down to one of those shops, with MONEY instead of a voucher, and buying a rifle? Please explain, because I'm confused! Is he saying that it's easier to obtain a rare rifle with a voucher, than it is with actual money? o.o What's the bloody difference?

Be it with real money OR the voucher, you'd still have to find a store that sells the rifle. Which according to you, is a rare thing to find. That being said, anyone who can afford the truck can just as easily obtain a rifle as the people who bought the truck and earned the voucher. The rarity of the AK-47 has NOTHING to do with it.

[~HentaiXXX~]

No way am I reading all of that pointless sh*t that you call an argument. >__>

tl;dr

Superfreak: I'm stupid duuurrrrpppp.

Chachazero: I don't know what to say to make you understand.