New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

[Frank Munoz]

Originally Posted by reptile3141

01- FNO(For Noobs Only)

This is perfect

[jimerax]

I vote "Legend"/"Legendary" above "Guru".

Another discussion point might be difficulty 11/20 is Difficult or Challenging.
Challenging for the compatibility, if we can find enough nice words for harder ones.

[popsicle_3000]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

My updated suggestions. Thoughts?

01- Training
02- Easiest
03- Beginner
04- Very Easy
05- Easy
06- Light
07- Moderate
08-Standard
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Expert
16- Master
17- Guru
18-Legendary
19- Ridiculous
20- ???

I'm happy with this except for 18. I think brutal doesn't mean top tier as much as legendary or ridiculous. training is a good choice as well and i'm fine w/ ??? :)

Originally Posted by megamon88

I still don't think Light and Standard are good difficulties, simply because (as previously mentioned) there are songs with the [Light] and [Standard] tags. If we eventually get rid of them though and just make them v2 or something, then I'm fine with them as difficulties.

light/standard etc... i think are ok. i dont know if this is the case with all songs, but I've taken to mean v1/2 as different takes on the same song (take hellbeat, cia rave, etc...), whereas standard/heavy (such as sunless daybreak) mean more difficult versions of the same stepchart.

Originally Posted by jimerax

I vote "Legend"/"Legendary" above "Guru".

I strongly think legendary should be in it

[reptile3141]

Originally Posted by Frank Munoz

This is perfect

I know, right?

[Hakulyte]

1 - More than Easy
2 - Too Easy to be Easy
3 - Still Too Easy
4 - Almost Too Easy
5 - Probably Almost Too Easy
6 - Could be confused with Too Easy
7 - Tricky Too Easy
8 - Not so Too Easy
9 - Challenging Too Easy
10 - Difficult Too Easy
11 - Brutal Too Easy
12 - Insane Too Easy
13 - Abnormally Hard for Too Easy
14 - This Song is Probably not Too Easy
15 - Too Easy to Mess up
16 - Too Easy to Hate on
17 - Too Easy to Rage on
18 - Very Hard for a Too Easy
19 - If you can AAA this you're almost Ready for Easy
20 - Easy

[Kienamaru]

Probably shouldn't be doing this on a tablet...

Cant see all the options so I say we have 20 as... either...

Demonic

or...

Ungodly

Also, itd be cool to have the Training changed to Noobish. because some people train on harder songs. Last thing, I disagree with Light and Heavy. I know they come from DDR but as said before, some songs have light or heavy in the titles, and to add my opinion, I dont see how a song can be considered... Light. makes me think of weight or color.

[emulord]

+500 to this! Very is important for people to understand the progression. For _ Only can be replaced with just the _ part. Good names all

Suggest Ridiculous -> Legendary. Seems more epic and less like a joke

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

My updated suggestions. Thoughts?

01- Training
02- Easiest
03- Beginner
04- Very Easy
05- Easy
06- Light
07- Moderate
08-Standard
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Expert
16- Master
17- Guru
18-Brutal
19- Ridiculous
20- ???


- A lot of people are against the 'For _____ Only' titles as they seem a bit discriminative/uncouth, so this eliminates that.
- Also eliminates the 'Heavy' tag, as it seems a bit ambiguous in regards to the difficulties above it.
- A few haters on the 'Very' qualifier. To me it shows a gradual progression between the current difficulty and the one above it. As mentioned, coming up with 20 suitable descriptors without using words that have exactly the same meaning is harder than it looks.
- I am almost 100% certain that 20 will remain as ???, the only file in that difficulty is vRofl. And the ??? (as comically discussed with bmah moments ago) is a sort of throw-back to the old DDR charts where the bpm was a flashing/changing ??? to denote something crazy.

[nois-or-e]

Originally Posted by Silvuh

You may want to put something like this in the top post so people will see it right away:

01- Easiest
02- For Beginners
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Standard
06- Standard / Tricky
07- Tricky
08- Difficult
09- Difficult / Very Difficult
10- Very Difficult
---
11- Challenging
12- Challenging
13- Challening / Very Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Very Challenging / FMO
16- FMO
17- FMO / FGO
18- FGO
19- FGO / 13
20- vrofl

If it is really that important, I can add this to the OP. I thought I'd made it fairly clear, but that's cool ;D
The final list will closer resemble this.

01- Easiest/For Beginners
02- For Beginners/Very Easy
03- Very Easy/Easy
04- Easy/Standard
05- Standard
06- Tricky
07- Tricky/Difficult
08- Difficult
09- Very Difficult
10- Very Difficult
---
11- Challenging (approx. 45 - 50)
12- Challenging
13- Challening / lowest few VC
14- VC
15- high VC / lowest few FMO's
16- mid - high FMO
17- high FMO / low FGO
18- mid - high FGO
19- FSO
20- vrofl

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Originally Posted by Silvuh

If we're going to keep terms like "Master" and "Guru", "Legend" and "Divine" are good words to use past them to stay in the same theme.
...
Right now, what I'm wondering about the most is "Words that describe the ability or rank of the player" versus "Words that describe the difficulty of the file" for the difficulties on the harder side of the median.

The opinions of all 3 Game Managers is that we keep them to varying levels of difficulty, straying away from utilising words that define the ability required. If FFR had an exp. point based levelling system, the titles that yourself and Subin have provided would be perfect. But in the way of accurately defining the level of difficulty of files, we don't think that they are very suitable.


That being said, keep the ideas coming guys~

[tofurox]

01- Training
02- Easiest
03- Beginner
04- Very Easy
05- Easy
06- Light
07- Moderate
08- Standard
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Complex
16- Master
17- Guru
18- Multifarious
19- Labyrinthine
20- Chimerical

[who_cares973]

All I want is master and grandmaster in their somewhere

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by MrPreggers

I like leaving level 20 as ??? Like it's so hard you can't think of anything to call it

^^

[TheSaxRunner05]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

??? will remain as the difficulty name for 20's as vRofl is the only song that falls into that category.

Sheesh no one reads =p

19 just has to be Legendary =p

[stavie33]

I like all these. Boundaries will still be debated, I'm sure of it, especially after playing through all the 8's. BTW I'm done.

[tofurox]

I still think chimerical and labyrinthine would make good difficulties. Multifarious is nice too.

[pie4thewin]

20 needs to be like "What is this? I don't even...

[demonllama6124]

i doubt it could be done, but if possible, put the troll face or u mad bro?for 20. i would also like to see Nightmare somewhere near the top tier, it just has a nice ring to it like legendary

[alloyus]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

If it is really that important, I can add this to the OP. I thought I'd made it fairly clear, but that's cool ;D
The final list will closer resemble this.

01- Easiest/For Beginners
02- For Beginners/Very Easy
03- Very Easy/Easy
04- Easy/Standard
05- Standard
06- Tricky
07- Tricky/Difficult
08- Difficult
09- Very Difficult
10- Very Difficult
---
11- Challenging (approx. 45 - 50)
12- Challenging
13- Challening / lowest few VC
14- VC
15- high VC / lowest few FMO's
16- mid - high FMO
17- high FMO / low FGO
18- mid - high FGO
19- FSO
20- vrofl

You have 9 and 10 as "very difficult"

[Frank Munoz]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

All I want is master and grandmaster in their somewhere

Thattswhatshesaid

I like Tofurox's use of "complex". But I think "complex" should be below "Challenging" as complex resembles advanced trickiness.
Fans of the "for _ only" should also like reptile's FNO(For Noobs Only) as difficulty 1, if not then meh. I think it's really great as it foreshadows that of the higher difficulties and it's just funny.

Iactuallyjustmadethisposttosay"that'swhatshesaid"
Also, I think you spelled "their" wrong but who_cares

[PrawnSkunk]

Originally Posted by alloyus

You have 9 and 10 as "very difficult"

He is showing how FFR difficulties will show up on the 1-20 scale.

Zag Nois means that difficulties, such as Difficult & Challenging will be split up across different difficulties.

[nois-or-e]

Zag? O)_____O)