TWG CXVII (reroll): General Hospital

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Thats impossible, according to what the doctors told me above.

If we're assuming all 4 doctors told you the truth sure thats impossible. One of them is probably lying considering we have 4 doctors and one is a wolf.

I mean it's either:
A) Fiction was wolved and we lynch person A for lying about guarding him
B) Fiction was double doctored and either person b or charles lied about their targets and double upped on fic.
C) something convoluted and unlucky like Xiz being a wolf with inside info and blocking person A/wolving fic.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Xiz

They were not private, he lied about that. He fell back to me and Charles being the secret claims even though they were open. I think he lied about the two claims because when he said it at first they didn't exist

Sunfan lied about the claims? or fiction?

I want to know if the people that claimed blue to sunfan are your person A and B.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Personally I'm leaning towards double doc on fiction and guard going through protecting me.

I want to lynch person B

[DarkManticoreX2]

No nevermind that doesnt make sense. That scenario would make charles human, and why wouldnt the wolves RB a claimed blue.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Possible scenarios I see:

Option 1:
Charles is human: RB is anchored on him negating his doctoring
Fiction was a blue and guarded person A

Person A didn't guard Fiction and thus he was wolved by person A

Option 2:
Charles is wolf
Fiction is blue and guards player a
wolves double doctor fiction and wolf either player A or B.
No idea where RB goes.

Option 3:
Charles is human: RB is anchored on him negating his doctoring
Fiction is blue
Person A guarded fiction as requested
Person B lied about thier guard target and also guarded fiction.
Wolving was on person A, but was blocked from Fic's guard



I think those are the scenarios in order of likelyhood.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Leaving for a bit feel free to make some posts on this page.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Until we get that post, and whenever sunfan gets in here...
Hey sunfan, why is xiz so adamant that you are red?

because he's dumb and he's psyching himself out, he and I talked about this earlier

[thesunfan]

yeah Xiz and Mashi were both claims of mine.
I was open about Charles because everyone knew.
I was private about Xiz because despite the fact that HE CLAIMED IN THE THREAD people didn't believe him for some reason so I wanted to keep it that way.
Last person is private I just woke up and I'm doing my own detectivey stuff atm.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Xiz

But yeah people like blind and YMia are higher on my list also to kill

What do you mean people like me? I had a reason to be inactive, I'm trying now.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

because he's dumb and he's psyching himself out, he and I talked about this earlier

He's dumb for having to deal with a mess of blue fake-claims?

[thesunfan]

he's dumb because he used to read me perfectly and he's been complete garbage as of late

[thesunfan]

also lol at Mea calling Xiz a good player that's a good joke man

[thesunfan]

jk ilu Xiz <3

[blindreper1179]

Anyways, to complete my last post.

Xiv is actually doing something around here. So, he's either green like he says, or he's a well hidden wolf controlling the game.
YMIA isn't really say much either.
BDN is done and waiting for replacement.....
Mea comes in to defend, and that's all I remember from him.

Enough of reads. With all these doctor claiming, fiction seemed to be the center of attention between all of this. He trusted the wrong person/people imo. He made a plan and somebody either fucked up/lied or the wolves played a first good night, which the latter seems pretty lucky to happen no? Those are the only scenarios I see. I'm not gonna try to do what manti did going more in depth with detailed options because I can't do that. (Not playing stupid, I can't do that shit in general).

With everyone's talk back and forth, charles is becoming blue in my eyes, but I don't trust it just yet, only because no one has become more red than him. Sun and Xiv are pretty close though.

[YoshL]

I can tag out my furry friend

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

With everyone's talk back and forth, charles is becoming blue in my eyes, but I don't trust it just yet, only because no one has become more red than him. Sun and Xiv are pretty close though.

Care to explain more on this?

[thesunfan]

btw my claim went to Xiz so I guess we're trusting Xiz now for some reason

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Care to explain more on this?

You got it.

With xiv, I'll feel the latter going on when I gave my read. No one was talking, and with one person throwing shit around, it would be easier to follow instead of being torn between people. What keeps him from being more red than charles is that people are speaking up now that the day is almost over. So in short, I think he is red because he tried to get shit rolling. Not moreso that he did it first, but how he did it.

Sun because

Originally Posted by thesunfan

if we weed out the liar; we're set. That's why

He's willing to risk losing all blues first trying to find the fake claim.

[James May]

Originally Posted by YoshL

I can tag out my furry friend

You should have pinged me on slack or skype :c

Xelnya has replaced BDN

[thesunfan]

So my thoughts on the game thus far:

Fiction was obviously making a power play. I know there were some people that were wary of him as a result of such, but I know that at least Manti noticed that he was a blue trying to make an alliance without claiming. I'm wondering if some other players would've noticed that; that's kind of what I'm looking at, but I think its kind of not 100% for sure with the info that I have atm.

Anyways, something that came up as I was typing this; Riot claimed doctor to myself and another player before he was replaced. (well I kind of figured it out since Riot's like the most obvious blue in the world but yeah). He was replaced. Xiz comes in for him. Xiz rescinds his blue claim; I figure its just a front. He claims he was trying to take a bullet; w/e, I figured people would buy it. I talked to him about him being to doctor; he said his rescind was real and that Riot was faking Doc as a Plain Human. I don't buy it for one second. He claims to have a real in-the-flesh claim from another person and that Riot was just being an idiot. Riot is a strange player, but I see absolutely no reason why he would do this as VT. I Def trust Xiz a lot less.

So onto reads.

Blind- When I was talking to people last night; 5 people had him as a wolf read based on his +1 to YMIA's post. I get a little wary when people do that to someone, but I do have to admit it was kind of wolfy for him to do so.

Funny- From OOT interactions, I feel like she is almost certainly approaching the game from a Human perspective. She is genuine in what she has given imo, def human lean in my book wouldn't lynch unless I was severely forced to reevaluate.

Manti- Has been trying almost as hard as Mea has. Doesn't lean one way or another for me; I'm not good at reading him anyways. I think that I would have a better opinion of him if we kill Charles today as he was one of the first people to say that Charles should die; which I happened to agree with (sorry again Charu).

Mittens- Kind of a meta read, but BDN felt very concerned about the game and I think that his QQ-post earlier on in the game was kind of humanish. Thin lean for now; need to see Mittens doing stuff before I go further.

Xiz- I refuse to believe Riot would do that as VT. If Charles is real doc then I do apologize Xiz, but until that happens I'm watching you. If charles is fake you know where my vote is going. I don't know what to make of you stepping it up here though...

Gradiant- His rageposts in response to Charles post is 100% human. Wouldn't lynch.

YMIA- His emotion when he got called out early is a human tell, but he hasn't done enough for me since. His reads post also felt kind of easy to make to me. Wolf lean.

Mashi- I think you all know my stance on him. Only reason Charu died over him was because he said the magic words of "I am a doctor." I think we need to kill him for the info garnered from his flip, regardless of his possible blueness. Charles

Blankey- Top human despite his stupidity. I see no point in him pursuing the stupid lynch of funny and myself if he is a wolf; his stancelessness is why I am reading him very human. Its possible he's next-leveling me but I don't think that's the case.

Mea- Manti mentioned his effort was humanish, which I can understand the logic of, that being said, Mea is a busy player in general, and def underestimated. I don't have very much on him other than he cares about getting info. Don't care about him atm, need to see more from him.