Turbo (87 or ???)

[Fission]

Originally Posted by Elmerz

There's valid arguments for lowering the difficulty and valid ones for keeping it 87, what's the big deal?

because there aren't any remaining valid arguments for making it an 87

the existing ones were systematically disproved and the only thing that took their place was bullshit non sequiturs

[Elmerz]

Why are you so salty? Not to mention biased.

[L.B.D.D]

if you have bring words like 'salty' and 'fuck' into a discussion about rating online rhythm game files you're doing it wrong

[One Winged Angel]

Ji and SK8R just stop directing posts at each other altogether on the forums because nothing productive ever comes from it.

Statistically speaking, it's not an 87. Yes, this can be inferred despite the file only being out for a week. 85 seems like a good fit (and even then it's a point higher than where I'd like to put it). I'm just gonna go ahead and make the change/close this thread right now because I don't think there are any valid points to keep this locked in at 87 after looking at current stats (which will only improve with time given several top tier players that haven't played the file yet or given an honest effort), plus the thread's already been derailed.

85 it is.

[Charu]

Hey, lets not start virtually grabbing each other!

Lets just agree that people disagree that it should be bumped lower. I still disagree with some of the difficulties, but that's because of my own bias feels and weak skill sets I have, lol.