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Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Note: Credit for everything listed in this thread goes out to TheRapingDragon. Aside from the v1, this v2 explains and demonstrates how to effectively and properly get the permission of song artists (v1) and how the results of your permission gets are handled now-a-days (v2). So, you've just heard some awesome music and want it in FFR? Well, you've come to the right place. This thread is going to try to help you go through the stages of trying to get a permission. Step One - Be accurate. Before you even begin to try to get a permission you have to make sure that all of your information is accurate and correct. Make sure that you have the right author / song title / album title (where applicable). Make sure it's not a remix or something like that which could get FFR in trouble with the original author who never gave permission for the remix in the first place. The other reason for accuracy is so that you show the recipient of the email that you know what you are talking about. Depending on what you are going for you will need to follow a different step. If: - You are asking an independent artist / group for their permission then go to step 2. - You are asking a signed artist / group for their permission or a record label for any artist at all then go to step 3 Step Two: Independent Artists / Groups The beauty about independent artists is that they have no record company or label (or they own the label themselves) and so you only need to send one email. Make sure to be absolutely certain that they don't have a label. Once you are certain try to find a contact address for them. This could either be an email or a letter. Some good places to check for contact points for independent artists are wikipedia, their official website, or myspace (or similar musical outlets such as last.fm). Once you have an email address you can send the email to them. I prepared a template email that can be used: Here's one of the more formal templates available and widely used for independent artists and/or groups: Quote:
Step Three: Artists / Groups that are signed to a record label This does vary from label to label but ultimately your final email will be around the same. The first thing to do is find out which label the artist or group is with. This can most likely be found on wikipedia. Secondly, you need to go to the labels website and make sure if you can find any "terms of service" or "artist / license request" forms or information on either. (Usually located at the bottom of these sites, are links for the ToS and artist/license requests.) These will usually give you information on how a label feels about distributing the music of their artists. It can also tell you if the label will expect royalties for anything to do with any of their artists. If you can't find anything like this then you can move on. If you do find a form, and it doesn't mention royalties, then you should use that form to apply for request for music to be put into FFR. If none of the above is applicable then you'll need to move on to emails. The ideal route is to send two emails. One to the artist / group and one to the record label. If a band is linked with multiple labels and you aren't sure which label is the right one for what you are asking permission for, then you may have to email every single label and explain the situation. The following emails are what I suggest as templates for your two emails: TO THE BAND / ARTIST: Quote:
TO THE RECORD LABEL: Quote:
This is the most important part, how will everything turn out. There are various possibilities and I'll cover as many as I can. 1. An independent artist / band says yes to your request. If this is the case, well done. You've got a permission! Now, to verify your permission, you should post a screenshot of your emails (sent to and from), along with a URL to the artist's website in this thread. Following that, if you wish to send an email thanking the artist/group, feel free to use this example: Quote:
2. An independent artist / band says no to your request. No worries, it happens. Still send them another email. Again a template for you: Quote:
3. An independent artist / band doesn't reply. Give it at least a week. If you hear no reply then just send another email. Something along the lines of: Quote:
4. A record label replies saying yes. Again, congratulations, but still be polite and send another email to the record label, something like: Quote:
5. A record label replies saying no. Quote:
6. A record label doesn't reply. This is probably the most likely case as most record labels are gay like that. If anything, you should still try to send a follow-up email: Quote:
And there you have it. When asking for permissions, always, ALWAYS remember the most important parts: - Be polite. - Be accurate in what you want. - Email everyone involved with the song / artist to increase your chances of a reply and also out of politeness.
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06-4-2012, 04:20 PM | #2 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
All of the templates need 1.5 million users bumped up to 1.8 million users.
Edit: Also as E-mail is only one function of contact, we should also try and add a few others. When I send permission requests I link to my profile for the site / method I am using to contact them, one of my e-mails, and I link them to my FFR profile just in case. Though that last one might not be the best idea sometimes ect. Just throwing that out. Last edited by Xx{Midnight}xX; 06-4-2012 at 04:24 PM.. |
06-4-2012, 04:21 PM | #3 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
ty, updated!
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06-4-2012, 04:23 PM | #4 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
shouldnt this thread have a tilde in it somewhere since all the other v2s and v3s and v4s and v5s do
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06-4-2012, 08:02 PM | #5 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
I think another thing that should be noted is that when you obtain or are trying to obtain the permission, make sure that someone or yourself is eager to step song of said artist. That way, we don't have a list of artists who we never heard of nor heard their tunes and Dossar wouldn't have to waste time on checking that.
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06-4-2012, 10:35 PM | #6 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
A habit I've gotten into is linking a screen recording/video of one of our pro arrowsmashers beasting a fairly hard song.
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06-4-2012, 10:39 PM | #7 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Just thought I'd pop in to say I rewrote this whole thing and updated all the info, reworded things to make it more correctly written, and added other details a while back in the suggestions thread and everyone ignored it oops, could have just stolen all that and updated yours Jesse. If you find it and want to use any of it feel free.
Nice thread btw, looks slick
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06-4-2012, 11:34 PM | #8 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
When sending emails make sure to use a professional-ish email. You'd have a better chance getting a reply or getting permission if your email is T.micheals@Gmail.com than rufnek420g6thug4lyf@Gmail.com. I wouldn't link to your profile especially if you have some questionable content on it(animu half naked huge tit chicks is questionable content Eben if you don't think so). Mention similar artists that are already on ffr in the email Nd link to the blanket permission thread
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06-14-2012, 09:34 PM | #9 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
full list of artists that ffr has permission for: link doesn't work.
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06-14-2012, 10:46 PM | #10 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
link works for me
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06-14-2012, 10:48 PM | #11 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
the ones for "to the band/artist" and "record label"
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06-23-2012, 09:10 AM | #12 | ||
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Alright so this is the email I sent to info@chrisgoulstone.co.uk
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06-23-2012, 01:30 PM | #13 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Licensing usually requires royalties to be paid to the artist/label, lol.
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06-23-2012, 05:01 PM | #14 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Tried sending a formal permission request, worked like a charm. It seemed kind of strange sending something that is normally out of character compared to the normal behavior on the internet, but nonetheless worked. Thanks for the guide!
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06-23-2012, 05:43 PM | #15 |
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Re: Obtaining Permissions and You! [v2]
Glad it turned out well. No problemo!
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