Song Corrections Thread

[Ghost_Medley]

The file simply named "Caprice" can be changed to "Caprice No. 5", if not the full title of "Caprice for Solo Violin, Op. 1 No. 5". It's an excerpt from one in a series of 24 caprices, so only "Caprice" is a flawed title.

I know it's a very old legacy file, but I figure it's worth stating if we're going about with song corrections.

[gold stinger]

Doing song general searches, yeah. Doesn't appear that No. 5 is specifically associated/referenced/known-as 'Caprice' and instead refers to the series of 24, with 5 & 24 both being the most popular, so this will get changed to Caprice No. 5.

'Caprice for Solo Violin, Op. 1 No. 5' might be pushing it just a bit and I'd like to dial back on other titles within FFR that do the same thing, because there are other iterations of the same song referenced as 'Caprice No. 5' but not Solo Violin, just this iteration from this composer happens to be Solo Violin.
(See: Flight of the Bumblebee [Rimsky-Korsakov], Flight of the Bumblebee [MonstDeath], and Flight of the Bumblebee [U.S. Army].)

The only other iteration where full title such-as above is used, is 'Etude Op. 10, No. 3 in E major' and 'Etude Op. 10, No. 9 in F minor', as both are from Frederic Chopin, labeled as 'Etude', within the same Opus, and the only difference is its numerical location in the Opus. I would like to drop the 'in F minor / in E major' since that info is subtly irrelevant to the song name itself, but that's discussion for a different time I guess. Similar to the above argument, it happens to be performed in F minor or E major, but doesn't change that the song in-question is Op. 10, No. 3 or Op. 10, No. 9.

And then, there's the absolute butchering imo of 'Caprice for Violin in B minor Theme and Variations'.

[Ghost_Medley]

A duo with my post in the Explicit Tag Project thread, the song "Velocity" is a song that features ToneDeff, the proper artist attribution should be "Substantial feat. ToneDeff". Alternative is making the title "Velocity feat. ToneDeff" and the artist "Substantial", depending on staff decision.

(https://substantial.bandcamp.com/tra...ty-ft-tonedeff)

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Medley

A duo with my post in the Explicit Tag Project thread, the song "Velocity" is a song that features ToneDeff, the proper artist attribution should be "Substantial feat. ToneDeff". Alternative is making the title "Velocity feat. ToneDeff" and the artist "Substantial", depending on staff decision.

(https://substantial.bandcamp.com/tra...ty-ft-tonedeff)

Changing it to 'Extended Famm' instead, because justice given where its due with the wiki actually doing its job, the work was created in-part with a hip-hop group that contained both rappers, and its instrumental musicians. More details can be found here: https://ffr.fandom.com/wiki/Extended_Famm

Bandcamp source: https://qn5music.bandcamp.com/album/...f-ck-you-songs

[Eryyy]

I believe GOD Of MADNESS is actually GOD of MADNESS. Despite how it is listed on the Soundcloud, the title on the official youtube https://youtu.be/U5hcdpP7FUM and bandcamp https://raggaterrorfront.bandcamp.co...god-of-madness as well as the loved osu chart (where correct metadata is a religion) https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/444098#mania/954116 following this leads me to believe that the SoundCloud was a one time mistake.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Eryyy

I believe GOD Of MADNESS is actually GOD of MADNESS. Despite how it is listed on the Soundcloud, the title on the official youtube https://youtu.be/U5hcdpP7FUM and bandcamp https://raggaterrorfront.bandcamp.co...god-of-madness as well as the loved osu chart (where correct metadata is a religion) https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/444098#mania/954116 following this leads me to believe that the SoundCloud was a one time mistake.

Changed, thanks for the research into it!

[jh05013]

Color the Inorganic World (無機質世界に彩を) should be either
- Redraw the Monotory World, as shown in the BGA, or
- Redraw the Colorless World, as used in Arcaea.

Monotory doesn't seem to be a real word though.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by jh05013

Color the Inorganic World (無機質世界に彩を) should be either
- Redraw the Monotory World, as shown in the BGA, or
- Redraw the Colorless World, as used in Arcaea.

Monotory doesn't seem to be a real word though.

We'll use Arcaea's title as the official one, as it makes more sense. Thanks for pointing this out. Changed.

[jh05013]

BUBBLES has two charts with no labels.

[gold stinger]

Changed to 'BUBBLES (Elite Ninja's Cut)' and 'BUBBLES (Psychotik's Cut)' as per rules defined at https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...&postcount=191

Although, it could be a situation (and is debatable) on adding difficulty tags instead. However, I added them this way due to the extreme difference in nature between the files.

I still retain the right from those rules that "if you guys start submitting multiple different cuts as a single Stepauthor (for Elite Ninja & Psychotik in this case) I will personally cut you (and at least 1 of the conflicting submissions) from the game."

[Tru]

As was found last night, the token requirement text for You Gotta B-E-E-R! should read:

Get positive scores on "BEER MY FRIEND", "BEER [Is-m]", "BEER? FOR BATHING!!" and "beer(party)tune."

BEER! [Psychostick] was confirmed incorrect.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Tru

As was found last night, the token requirement text for You Gotta B-E-E-R! should read:

Get positive scores on "BEER MY FRIEND", "BEER [Is-m]", "BEER? FOR BATHING!!" and "beer(party)tune."

BEER! [Psychostick] was confirmed incorrect.

Really? That's craaaazy. I think BEER! [Psychostick] is still part of the unlock condition (because those conditions are stored elsewhere other than the unlock text on the website), buuuuuuuuuuuut


changed until someone else down the line corrects it if need be.

[Ghost_Medley]

The file The Crow's Newspaper uses the dBu arrangement "風神少女 ～ the Article by Crow" (Wind God Girl ~ the Article by Crow) and is the only case for this artist where the song title on FFR is not translated from Japanese or a truncated English title. (For example, "the Casket of Star" comes from the full title "星の器 ～ the Casket of Star", and "Pure in Asia" comes from "無何有浄化 ～ Pure in Asia".)

If consistency is preferred, the title can be changed to "the Article by Crow".

[gold stinger]

Doing wiki digging on the topic, the name appeared to come from the official download from the website at http://www.dobuusagi.com/c_music.htm (it is still up).

The conclusion that jayde & noname came to, was that because the original release was named as-such and was only 2:23 long (version in-game is 2:25 long, the same length + 2 seconds of silence) and the full version of "風神少女 ～ the Article by Crow" is 3:50 in-length, it is a naming difference between the artist's official Cut version of the song, and the artist's official Full-Length version of the song.

Thoughts?

[jh05013]

The very first second of Return to Fire cuts weirdly, but I think that's a mistake on the artist's Youtube upload. Their ReverbNation and Soundcloud uploads don't have this effect.

[gold stinger]

Would need to edit/alter the original file in order to fix the issue with it, and it's old enough that it's not in the current batch system, and for some reason despite it being a 2013 release, it is not in the E-mail system that we pulled either. Give me some time to look into it.

Edit: Audio at the beginning of the file should now be fixed.

[Tru]

Not sure how recent it is, but it appears the song F has been reattributed to a cranky alias "VILA" elsewhere, so we should update it here.

https://soundcloud.com/felinegroove/f-short-edit
(in the automatic song info thing here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU636PRV0FU
(dead rhythm game's attribution) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc0_FGDOUas

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Tru

Not sure how recent it is, but it appears the song F has been reattributed to a cranky alias "VILA" elsewhere, so we should update it here.

https://soundcloud.com/felinegroove/f-short-edit
(in the automatic song info thing here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU636PRV0FU
(dead rhythm game's attribution) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc0_FGDOUas

Looking into it, apparently it's supposed to be attributed as 'bubbles' (also responsible for Katharsis in-game), which is the band duo of Cranky & Pico. However, they recently transitioned the brand name of the duo to VILA as per Pico's official Twitter at https://twitter.com/pico_1023

I'll change this in a bit, since it will involve moving & renaming the previously existing bubbles page on the wiki. Nice catch!


Edit: done

[James May]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Changed to 'BUBBLES (Elite Ninja's Cut)' and 'BUBBLES (Psychotik's Cut)' as per rules defined at https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...&postcount=191

Although, it could be a situation (and is debatable) on adding difficulty tags instead. However, I added them this way due to the extreme difference in nature between the files.

I still retain the right from those rules that "if you guys start submitting multiple different cuts as a single Stepauthor (for Elite Ninja & Psychotik in this case) I will personally cut you (and at least 1 of the conflicting submissions) from the game."

Going by this, wouldn't all three charts of Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) be listed as three completely different cuts? Since ~Zero~'s chart has one cut and both hi19's and Osit's cuts are also completely different as well? I was always the impression that the v2/3's stuff were using the same song audio and making a new interpretation of it.

Correct me if I'm wrong though

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by James May

Going by this, wouldn't all three charts of Cruel Whole (Abelcain Remix) be listed as three completely different cuts? Since ~Zero~'s chart has one cut and both hi19's and Osit's cuts are also completely different as well? I was always the impression that the v2/3's stuff were using the same song audio and making a new interpretation of it.

Correct me if I'm wrong though

v2/v3 were to be reserved for reimagining's and very long overdue re-steps of the same chart but people have since wanted to swap to a v2/v3 system for anything of the same song, so it's a giant TO-DO at the moment.