Snickers commercial controversy

Wilkin · 02-6-2007, 01:46 PM

So I was listening to some talk radio this morning, and the host were talking about how the Mars company is getting complaints from people concerning the Super Bowl commercial with the two mechanics kissing.

One thing I noticed, both in the report of who was complaining and the calls on the show, was that the only people who had a problem with it were anyone but the people the commercial was about - straight men. Homosexual people have a problem with it because a straight man had a problem with kissing another straight man. The point of the commercial was to amuse the audience and make them laugh, and it chose to do it through exaggeration, one of the most basic forms of comedy.

As far as I see, the commercial in no way said that homosexuality is wrong or that it's a bad thing. It merely put two common people in an unexpectedly funny situation.

But there was one straight man who called the talk show who had a problem with it. He said when the commercial ended, his son looked at him, wondering what was so funny about it, and the man didn't know how to explain it to him. The man said it was disgusting, and that the Super Bowl is a family program that shouldn't be corrupted by those kinds of commercials. He then went to on say that if it's ever aired again, it should be at late night where children won't see it. To me, he's saying a Snickers commercial should only be shown when Girls Gone Wild comes on. And of course, he swore off Snickers. Naturally.

Now, I'm interested in if anyone in our diverse community has/had a problem with it, either ethically, religiously (I'm not sure about chardish's stance on homosexuality), or otherwise, because I for one don't want to live in an age where I can't enjoy a good ol' joke without it being criticized relentlessly.

Sheckerbeans · 02-6-2007, 02:03 PM

I saw this on Attack of the Show. Me; I'm pretty religious (though not usually too uptight about things) and I had no problems with it. I don't think it was emphasizing a preferred orientation at all.

One thing to remember: There are always those who turn a whole lot of nothing into too much something.

GuidoHunter · 02-6-2007, 05:18 PM

Religiously, there's nothing wrong with what they did. Hell, even Jesus kissed plenty of dudes in a non-homosexual way.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

slipstrike0159 · 02-6-2007, 05:35 PM

There is always something that stupid people can find to criticize about nowadays. The funniest part of the commercial was when they said "Quick do something manly!" it is something that can be found funny by both men and women. It doesnt have any particular meaning behind it is its just funny. I really think that if anyone has a problem with it they A: want money through a lawsuit B: want attention, C: are over analyzing everything, D: are gay and take everything personal, or E: have a really bad sense of humor and should be shunned

PatamonKid · 02-6-2007, 05:49 PM

So, wait. A pretty funny Snickers commercial (albeit a tad on the disturbing side) draws tons of outrage. Commercials for "male enhancement products" a couple years ago is fine? Beer commercials are fine? "Alright son, you can drink and screw people all you want, but NEVER kiss another man." WTF.

lord_carbo · 02-6-2007, 06:06 PM

The reason homosexuality is such a big thing/sin with Christians is because it's easier to not be a hypocrite about it. Hey straight guys, how hard is it to not be homosexual? Pretty easy, huh? Now apply Christianity.

Go tell the average Christian how it's a sin to be gay and it's not a good thing to do. They'll totally agree with you. Now tell them, oh, another sin, like lying, and tell them that even the slightest lie is a big thing. If they agree, tell them they're being hypocritical because they've probably lied many times in their life. By this point they'll make up an excuse, how it's not always a bad thing or how it's not a big deal.

The truth is, all sins are just as bad as one another in God's eyes (see James 2:10). Ignoring this and making homosexuality a bigger sin just makes for less hypocritical Christians.

Yeah, that was so poorly worded, but my point still stands.

Zeoc713 · 02-6-2007, 07:08 PM

Just another classic example of what happens when people take a simple
matter, find some way for it to be offensive, and then blow it way out of proportion. It's just a commercial. Let it go.

archbishopjabber · 02-6-2007, 08:44 PM

I cannot understand why people make such a big deal over homosexuality. A man kissing another man or a man kissing a woman, it is the lips of two carbon based life forms with the same genome touching. Logistically the whole thing is quite absurd to argue over. The only logical issue would be under population if it happened in mass but with 6.5 billion people we REALLY don't have that problem. Anyone who makes any sort of a fuss over it is being irrational. I would like you try to prove me wrong. Only cite scientific references in your proof, no using sources of debatable accuracy such as the bible.

slipstrike0159 · 02-6-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord_carbo

The reason homosexuality is such a big thing/sin with Christians is because it's easier to not be a hypocrite about it. Hey straight guys, how hard is it to not be homosexual? Pretty easy, huh? Now apply Christianity.

Go tell the average Christian how it's a sin to be gay and it's not a good thing to do. They'll totally agree with you. Now tell them, oh, another sin, like lying, and tell them that even the slightest lie is a big thing. If they agree, tell them they're being hypocritical because they've probably lied many times in their life. By this point they'll make up an excuse, how it's not always a bad thing or how it's not a big deal.

The truth is, all sins are just as bad as one another in God's eyes (see James 2:10). Ignoring this and making homosexuality a bigger sin just makes for less hypocritical Christians.

Yeah, that was so poorly worded, but my point still stands.

Surely you are right in that hypocrisy does happen quite frequent however, there are a lot of christians are who we call "sunday mormons" and that means in their everyday life they do not act like they have a faith but on sunday its time to be righteous. Now if you were to say you went up to a GOOD christian and did the same thing im quite sure you would have less of a hypocritical statement in response. Besides, doesnt the bible also say not to judge another because thats God's job? In that case, you do not know if they have repented of that sin or not and therefore you can not call them a hypocrite.

P.S. - Nice try but im sure not many people are going to agree with you that murder and other serious sins are just as big of a deal as swearing on accident.

**Evascythe** · 02-6-2007, 10:18 PM

The Kevin Federline commerical made me lol.

working in a burger joint like he should be, lol.

jewpinthethird · 02-6-2007, 10:22 PM

You give the American public too much credit. Remember, these are the same people who elected George W. Bush twice.

Keep it mind, "majority rule" means nothing anymore. A majority of people don't have a problem with this commercial, but enough people didn't enjoy to the point that they have to make life a living hell for the rest of us with their idiotic banter.

sherbtail · 02-7-2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipstrike0159

Surely you are right in that hypocrisy does happen quite frequent however, there are a lot of christians are who we call "sunday mormons" and that means in their everyday life they do not act like they have a faith but on sunday its time to be righteous. Now if you were to say you went up to a GOOD christian and did the same thing im quite sure you would have less of a hypocritical statement in response. Besides, doesnt the bible also say not to judge another because thats God's job? In that case, you do not know if they have repented of that sin or not and therefore you can not call them a hypocrite.

P.S. - Nice try but im sure not many people are going to agree with you that murder and other serious sins are just as big of a deal as swearing on accident.

Lord Carbo and you make interesting points. Christians are sometimes very quick to jump on the anti-gay bandwagon when really all other sins are just as big a deal. Although I would hope most Christians recognise this. However just because they also say that lying is a sin doesn't make them a hypocrite, because as Slipstrike says, even though they have lied, they have also repented. Slipstrike, there is no such thing as a good Christian and a bad Christian, a 'Sunday Christian' isn't a Christian at all, and also murder and swearing are just as big sins as each other in God's eyes. I'm not saying you should be put in jail for life for each...
We had a really interesting discussion about this at my youth group a couple of months ago. Both are equal sins in God's eyes but that doesn't mean that they should be in the law's eyes. If you see what I mean...
Sorry that last bit is really badly worded

Anyway back on proper topic, I read about the ad on-line and it seems pretty tame to be fair, people just making a fuss about nothing like normal, I'm not a big fan of all this uber-political correctness

**Kilgamayan** · 02-7-2007, 11:21 AM

People are probably getting offended because the commercial makes homosexuality out to be a "bad" and "unmanly" thing.

**lightdarkness** · 02-7-2007, 11:23 AM

I want a snickers bar

MalReynolds · 02-7-2007, 11:37 AM

I was under the impression homosexuality wasn't manly. I thought the definition of manly was beef steaks and lifting weights, not kissing other guys. That's pretty gay right there.

**Evascythe** · 02-7-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightdarkness

I want a snickers bar

According to Sportsnet [a channel in BC, Alberta, Ontario] that commerical has now been banned, lol.

lord_carbo · 02-7-2007, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipstrike0159

Besides, doesnt the bible also say not to judge another because thats God's job? In that case, you do not know if they have repented of that sin or not and therefore you can not call them a hypocrite.

I'm not Christian 8) It's just chances are you've lied at least once in your lifetime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipstrike0159

P.S. - Nice try but im sure not many people are going to agree with you that murder and other serious sins are just as big of a deal as swearing on accident.

In God's eyes and according to the Bible. It's impossible to weigh them by their negative impacts and say that they're the same in human eyes and perspective, but James 2:10 says that all sins are equal in God's eyes.

MalReynolds · 02-7-2007, 06:21 PM

Two guys kissing is not manly.

1 : having qualities generally associated with a man : strong, virile
2 : appropriate in character to a man <manly sports>

They were using the BASIC definition of the word.

Masculine -

1 a: male b: having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man
2: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to males

Qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man most definitley does not mean kissing another man. Any way you cut it, by definition, two guys kissing isn't manly. It's just gay.

EDIT:

What I mean to say is, the majority of men (which the definition is based around) do not go around kissing other men.

lord_carbo · 02-7-2007, 06:23 PM

Homosexuality is gay, Mal.

MalReynolds · 02-7-2007, 06:24 PM

Well, duh.

This is just to the defense of the commercial and everyone saying that it's unfair to portray homosexuals as unmanly.

02-6-2007, 01:46 PM	#1
Wilkin FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,800	Snickers commercial controversy So I was listening to some talk radio this morning, and the host were talking about how the Mars company is getting complaints from people concerning the Super Bowl commercial with the two mechanics kissing. One thing I noticed, both in the report of who was complaining and the calls on the show, was that the only people who had a problem with it were anyone but the people the commercial was about - straight men. Homosexual people have a problem with it because a straight man had a problem with kissing another straight man. The point of the commercial was to amuse the audience and make them laugh, and it chose to do it through exaggeration, one of the most basic forms of comedy. As far as I see, the commercial in no way said that homosexuality is wrong or that it's a bad thing. It merely put two common people in an unexpectedly funny situation. But there was one straight man who called the talk show who had a problem with it. He said when the commercial ended, his son looked at him, wondering what was so funny about it, and the man didn't know how to explain it to him. The man said it was disgusting, and that the Super Bowl is a family program that shouldn't be corrupted by those kinds of commercials. He then went to on say that if it's ever aired again, it should be at late night where children won't see it. To me, he's saying a Snickers commercial should only be shown when Girls Gone Wild comes on. And of course, he swore off Snickers. Naturally. Now, I'm interested in if anyone in our diverse community has/had a problem with it, either ethically, religiously (I'm not sure about chardish's stance on homosexuality), or otherwise, because I for one don't want to live in an age where I can't enjoy a good ol' joke without it being criticized relentlessly. __________________ l WWii║iiiiiiii▫ ╔═╗ ╠═╗ ║ ╚═╝ ║lll║ ║ OH LOOK NOW THE REST OF MY MUSIC IS NOW VISIBLE HOW COINCIDENTAL IS THAT

02-6-2007, 02:03 PM	#2
Sheckerbeans FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Age: 32 Posts: 12	Re: Snickers commercial controversy I saw this on Attack of the Show. Me; I'm pretty religious (though not usually too uptight about things) and I had no problems with it. I don't think it was emphasizing a preferred orientation at all. One thing to remember: There are always those who turn a whole lot of nothing into too much something. __________________ [SIGPIC]http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/dog.jpg[/SIGPIC]

02-6-2007, 05:35 PM	#4
slipstrike0159 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows behind you with my assassin's blade waiting to strike Posts: 568	Re: Snickers commercial controversy There is always something that stupid people can find to criticize about nowadays. The funniest part of the commercial was when they said "Quick do something manly!" it is something that can be found funny by both men and women. It doesnt have any particular meaning behind it is its just funny. I really think that if anyone has a problem with it they A: want money through a lawsuit B: want attention, C: are over analyzing everything, D: are gay and take everything personal, or E: have a really bad sense of humor and should be shunned __________________

02-6-2007, 05:49 PM	#5
PatamonKid FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 17	Re: Snickers commercial controversy So, wait. A pretty funny Snickers commercial (albeit a tad on the disturbing side) draws tons of outrage. Commercials for "male enhancement products" a couple years ago is fine? Beer commercials are fine? "Alright son, you can drink and screw people all you want, but NEVER kiss another man." WTF.

02-6-2007, 06:06 PM	#6
lord_carbo FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: fighting villains from afar, NJ Age: 32 Posts: 6,222	Re: Snickers commercial controversy The reason homosexuality is such a big thing/sin with Christians is because it's easier to not be a hypocrite about it. Hey straight guys, how hard is it to not be homosexual? Pretty easy, huh? Now apply Christianity. Go tell the average Christian how it's a sin to be gay and it's not a good thing to do. They'll totally agree with you. Now tell them, oh, another sin, like lying, and tell them that even the slightest lie is a big thing. If they agree, tell them they're being hypocritical because they've probably lied many times in their life. By this point they'll make up an excuse, how it's not always a bad thing or how it's not a big deal. The truth is, all sins are just as bad as one another in God's eyes (see James 2:10). Ignoring this and making homosexuality a bigger sin just makes for less hypocritical Christians. Yeah, that was so poorly worded, but my point still stands. __________________ last.fm

02-6-2007, 07:08 PM	#7
Zeoc713 FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Champaign IL Age: 34 Posts: 32	Re: Snickers commercial controversy Just another classic example of what happens when people take a simple matter, find some way for it to be offensive, and then blow it way out of proportion. It's just a commercial. Let it go. __________________ I have seen the light, and it is me. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

02-6-2007, 08:44 PM	#8
archbishopjabber FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 79 Posts: 268	Re: Snickers commercial controversy I cannot understand why people make such a big deal over homosexuality. A man kissing another man or a man kissing a woman, it is the lips of two carbon based life forms with the same genome touching. Logistically the whole thing is quite absurd to argue over. The only logical issue would be under population if it happened in mass but with 6.5 billion people we REALLY don't have that problem. Anyone who makes any sort of a fuss over it is being irrational. I would like you try to prove me wrong. Only cite scientific references in your proof, no using sources of debatable accuracy such as the bible.

02-6-2007, 10:22 PM	#11
jewpinthethird (The Fat's Sabobah) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 11,711	Re: Snickers commercial controversy You give the American public too much credit. Remember, these are the same people who elected George W. Bush twice. Keep it mind, "majority rule" means nothing anymore. A majority of people don't have a problem with this commercial, but enough people didn't enjoy to the point that they have to make life a living hell for the rest of us with their idiotic banter.

02-7-2007, 11:21 AM	#13
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Re: Snickers commercial controversy People are probably getting offended because the commercial makes homosexuality out to be a "bad" and "unmanly" thing. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

02-7-2007, 11:23 AM	#14
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	Re: Snickers commercial controversy I want a snickers bar __________________

02-7-2007, 11:37 AM	#15
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Snickers commercial controversy I was under the impression homosexuality wasn't manly. I thought the definition of manly was beef steaks and lifting weights, not kissing other guys. That's pretty gay right there. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

02-7-2007, 06:21 PM	#18
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Snickers commercial controversy Two guys kissing is not manly. 1 : having qualities generally associated with a man : strong, virile 2 : appropriate in character to a man <manly sports> They were using the BASIC definition of the word. Masculine - 1 a: male b: having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man 2: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to males Qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man most definitley does not mean kissing another man. Any way you cut it, by definition, two guys kissing isn't manly. It's just gay. EDIT: What I mean to say is, the majority of men (which the definition is based around) do not go around kissing other men. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

02-7-2007, 06:23 PM	#19
lord_carbo FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: fighting villains from afar, NJ Age: 32 Posts: 6,222	Re: Snickers commercial controversy Homosexuality is gay, Mal. __________________ last.fm

02-7-2007, 06:24 PM	#20
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Snickers commercial controversy Well, duh. This is just to the defense of the commercial and everyone saying that it's unfair to portray homosexuals as unmanly. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)