protesting SOPA

[Coolboyrulez0]

Dont like using SOPA. Always gets in my eyes and burns.

[poleaxe]

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0

Dont like using SOPA. Always gets in my eyes and burns.

I know the feel.

[MrMagic5239]

What is so damn funny about it to me is the ESA relies on free content to produce such awesome games to the world, which essentially, earns them money, yet they support something to destroy their own ability to make it happen?

[Superfreak04]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Son of a bitch people, do your research! Comments like these make me angry because it just goes to show you that propaganda works. To answer who_cares earlier comment, this is a great example of the "education" point. When you don't know what's going on, you're likely to get pissed off at the wrong people, and you're likely to support the wrong people, in turn.

On the topic regarding NDAA:

It was obvious that NDAA was going to pass in the first place, considering the circumstances. The NDAA was, on the whole, military funding for 2012 (it's NOT an "Indefinite Detention Bill"). The sketchy aspects of NDAA were poison pills inserted in there by Republican legislators, and Obama had no power over this. It was a political game in Congress with the intention of putting Obama in a tough position of pissing off his base with the upcoming election.

By vetoing NDAA, he would be vetoing the *entire* bill. Obama would have basically been cutting off funding to veterans and their families. Soldiers need to eat, too. Obama's veto would have been overridden by Congress anyway. So he could have either chosen to commit political suicide by signing to ostensibly screw over our defense, or he could have chosen to piss off his base by signing something that has unsavory subfunctions embedded into it. The obvious choice is the latter -- it's much better to sacrifice political capital than it is to commit political suicide. It was a lose/lose situation for Obama.

Besides, there's nothing in the NDAA that screws you over any harder that isn't already included in the Patriot Act (i.e. it doesn't affect you).

If you seriously blame Obama for not vetoing NDAA -- congrats. You're the type of dumbass the Republicans rely on to keep voting them into power.

It's different when it comes to SOPA. Obama will absolutely veto it if it ever makes it that far (which is very doubtful) because the situation is clearly different. SOPA is extraordinarily unpopular and it makes Obama look great if he stands against it. Signing SOPA would kill his chances for re-election.

Hmmm.


EDIT: Read: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12...ng-to-sign-it/

No one is blaming Obama for not vetoing it. Regardless if it's obvious that if the bill didn't pass, it would have been very bad in the long run,in the NDAA case. But just because someone promises to veto something, doesn't mean they are going to do what they say. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying on that if Obama did veto the bill, then things would be even worse, all I'm saying is that just because they say they are going to do something, doesn't make it true. Although I am sure that this won't pass, that doesn't mean you can't have doubt on what presidents say in the future about if they promise to veto something or not. Promises are made, promises can be broken.

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[ghost-]

i refuse to ever trust my government

[Reincarnate]

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[Reincarnate]

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[iironiic]

Needs SOPA.



I've been told by many people that SOPA has good intentions but was worded poorly. I'm not sure if this is true either.

[robertsona]

Cant believe its come to this.! How will America be any diffrnt from Are Enemies China if we pass this horrid bill!! My right to Stealing intellectual property is the same as the right to free speech.!

[Aldentron]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

If you seriously blame Obama for not vetoing NDAA -- congrats. You're the type of dumbass the Republicans rely on to keep voting them into power.

i couldn't have said it better myself

bipartisanship has forced our politicians into a competition for seats in congress, senate, oval office, etc.
not only are the people they serve on the back burner while they duke it out, but they use the people as a gauge to figure out who is winning the fight.

i would also like to touch on the issue of "why people realize it's ****ed up and won't change." i have noticed over time that news stories, legislation, the economy, etc. instill fear in people. especially the right wing. the right wing is so dependent on fear for it's success that i have given it a name, "the white fear"

the white fear is, to put it simply, fear of the inability to maintain the status quo.

for instance, the white fear is being afraid of not having enough natural gas to power your heaters during the winter because legislation is limiting the industry.

for instance, the white fear is homophobia, the aversion for being stared at the same way you stare at women

for instance, the white fear is that if marijuana were legalized, everyone would be lazy potheads and no one would work.

it goes on and on and on. the white fear has been around as long as propaganda has. it has been utilized as a tool by the rich people to turn the middle-class people on the poor people. on the internet, the white fear is dissipated. the internet is a threat to their most useful tool, and so now there is SOPA and PIPA

how does the white fear work? you can find out yourself, just observe how Karl Rove makes it work for his interests:
http://www.rove.com/notes

[robertsona]

What

[MrMagic5239]

What is with all the black bar censors on your posts lol is that an actual thing or just a form of protest against this stupid bill?

[ghost-]

apparently you don't get it

[Reincarnate]

surprised nobody decoded my messages yet

[Bluearrowll]

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[Bluearrowll]

Originally Posted by reincarnate

surprised nobody decoded my messages yet

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[Calcium Deposit]

I am a single mother and I support SOPA.

[who_cares973]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

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no you shut the **** up and suck my dick, bitch LOL