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Untitled Nolan Batman Sequel (2012)
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What do you guys think? I think he's definitely up for a villainous role, and my money's on any of the following: Black Mask The Riddler Deadshot Bane
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10-15-2010, 10:03 AM | #2 |
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Can we get the thread title changed to "Untitled Nolan Batman sequel (2012)" or something so we can keep all of the discussion of this movie in one thread? This one little bit of information isn't enough alone to warrant a thread.
Was this seriously confirmed though? I thought it was just a rumor that he was cast, just like before there were tons of rumors that Joseph Gordon-Levitt was on the shortlist to be cast. I'm hoping for Riddler and Hush for this movie. Per that, I'm going to say that I'm hoping for Hardy to be Tommy Elliot. Deadshot has almost no chance of happening though. He was adapted into Smallville because Smallville is using the Suicide Squad, and I don't think Nolan would have ever allowed WB to use Deadshot in that way if he was planning on using him. Remember: it's his Batman films that have kept Batman from appearing in live action on TV in any way at all, and in fact, Deadshot is the first Batman enemy to appear on Smallville. His use of Scarecrow, Ra's al Ghul and Twoface also kept those characters from being used in the animated "The Batman" series, although I guess they're appearing in The Brave and the Bold cartoon now. Black Mask could actually happen. I wouldn't mind seeing him too much. As far as mafia-type characters, he's definitely among the ones I would most like to see, along with a more true-to-form Penguin. If they delve deep into the mafia stuff, I'd also like to see Matches Malone appear. And Bane could happen, but I wouldn't expect someone like Tom Hardy to do it. I'm not sure who I would expect but he doesn't feel right to me. Doesn't feel burly enough. ps did you hear the rumors of Killer Croc? No way in hell is that gonna happen. It all came about because they're planning on using New Orleans for filming because of the great tax breaks. Some fools heard "New Orleans", figured "swamps", then jumped right over to "Killer Croc". I guess they missed the part where Green Lantern is filming there too and swamps don't play into that movie at all.
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Done. And yes it was confirmed.
I personally would love to see Bane done correctly. He's actually an intelligent character and has been misrepresented in films such as Batman and Robin. We have yet to see anyone really give Batman a physical challenge. Batman's more or less come out of every brawl ahead of the opponents. I'd love to see that change up a bit -- especially if we go the Knightfall route and have Bane "break the bat," but this is probably unlikely. Eames has the potential to be physically intimidating, but perhaps not on Bane's level, granted. Deadshot does seem less likely, given your evidence. Black Mask is nevertheless an excellent contender, given that his backstory would weave in nicely with Nolan's story and provide a way to wrap up the trilogy (especially when you consider the mob ties). The only hesitation I have about the Riddler is that he's normally not a physically intimidating character, and we already got a fair share of mental gymnastics from Ras al Ghul and the Joker. There may be some redundancy on making a character who is "heady." Then again, almost every one of Nolan's movies are that way -- somehow delving into those mental loops (Memento, Inception, Ras al Ghul's intelligence, Scarecrow and his hallucinogens, Joker and his cunning schemes, etc). Anything's fair game at this point, though, depending on how Nolan alters details and reinvents certain character aspects. I don't think we'll see Mr.Freeze/Catwoman/Clayface/Killer Croc because those characters are simply unrealistic and/or campy in their scope. Especially when you consider that Nolan's movies use little to no CGI, I think we can safely assume that the villains will follow suit.
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I guess it could be interesting to see Riddler and Bane team up for similar reasons, although it wouldn't exactly be the same. Riddler is roughly Batman's equal in intellect at best, but Bane bests Batman physically easily. Quote:
Neither served an intellectual challenge. No villain in these films has hit the note a good incarnation of Riddler is capable of. Riddler does what he does just to try to prove he is better than the Batman. He doesn't do it because he's a well-intentioned extremist like Ra's, and he doesn't do it because he finds humor in anarchy like Joker.
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10-18-2010, 02:44 PM | #6 |
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Let me guess, Batman will beat the bad guy.
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10-18-2010, 03:04 PM | #7 |
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Not necessarily. But probably, yeah.
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10-27-2010, 10:53 AM | #8 |
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http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/...e-the-riddler/ So I guess a thread title change is in order...? Not a very good title in my opinion. Probably wanted to play the "_____ Returns" game, but decided naming a new movie "Batman Returns" would be a bad idea, and didn't want to call it "The Dark Knight Returns" unless he was adapting that comic story. Really wish they'd take a page from the Bond book and stop referring to Batman in the title every single time. Imagine if Casino Royale had been called "Bond Begins" and Quantum of Solace was "007". Stupid, stupid stuff. I'm still holding out hope that Nolan is lying though. I really want to see Riddler appear under his direction. I fear that next time they get around to giving us a Riddler in live action, it'll be a retread of the same tired characterization from back in the Adam West series, something that played heavily into Jim Carey's portrayal in Batman Forever. I want to see the dapper gentleman in a green business suit. I don't want a wild maniac in a spandex bodysuit. I'm also bummed that he's shunning 3D. If any director could deliver good art with stereoscopy it's him, especially if he brings back any of the cinematographers he's worked with on past films.
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I thought Jim Carrey was a hilarious Riddler. But that's just me I guess.
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I am okay with the villain not being Riddler. I am okay with the lack of 3D (I have found 3D to be more gimmicky than anything -- it hasn't added to my overall enjoyment of the movie much). I just want the villain to be someone we all know and love, and I want the villain to be done properly.
At this point I am holding out for Black Mask. Looks like Hardy may be playing Bullock. I hope there *is* a villain. If it's just a movie about Batman versus the mob, I won't be seeing it.
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If he's playing a detective really, I think it's more likely that he'd be Edward Nigma, private detective. Ok, maybe not, but I'd really like to cling to the idea that Nolan is lying to us.
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