Any active places for charting disscusion?

[ElectricZap9]

VSRG Charters Collection is barely active, are there any active places for charting discussion?

PS: Also, I'm banned from The EO and FFR discords so are there any alternatives?

[gold stinger]

you got banned? That's news to me. Genuinely interested in why.

Could start up a general simfile song & patterns discussion thread on here, and aim for having the same content that the #simfiles chat in FFR had, but likely 90+% of the playerbase will just communicate in #simfiles vs the thread, for convenience.

I'm not aware of other active places for charting discussion, since I'm not heavily tied to any other communities. I would assume Osu probably has something given how massive the playerbase for that is in contrast.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by ElectricZap9

VSRG Charters Collection is barely active, are there any active places for charting discussion?

PS: Also, I'm banned from The EO and FFR discords so are there any alternatives?

As an aside:

If you didn't do anything horrible, shoot one of the discord mods a DM and see if you can sort it out, they can be a little more forgiving than you'd think, or I'd tell you personally.

I can't speak for the EO server though.

[trumaestro]

I guess the Quaver discord exists. You'd probably get better advice from the highly experienced charters here tho

[FirstMaple8]

there are many smaller etterna servers but probably nowhere as good as the eo and ffr channels

[Wayward Vagabond]

Talk to me about stepcharting

[icontrolyourworld]

what makes a good stepchart?

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by icontrolyourworld

what makes a good stepchart?

Whatever you think makes up a good chart

[ElectricZap9]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Whatever you think makes up a good chart

So initially, some people shared the same rough idea of what they think makes up a good chart and in unison, created the judge batch.

And this is what makes the confusion where should a figure or organisation's critique on one's work, they're word is final and the only important one, and must be taken for granted, and anyone's opinion or critique but the figure/organisation's critique is prioritized less and is not taken to consideration.

But of course, that's nonsense and sounds more like a black and white fictional system made by a naive child than the more diverse and possibly intimidating reality.

[choof]

if you read through cosmovibe's guide and post a minipack of like 3-4 files I'll review it

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by ElectricZap9

So initially, some people shared the same rough idea of what they think makes up a good chart and in unison, created the judge batch.

And this is what makes the confusion where should a figure or organisation's critique on one's work, they're word is final and the only important one, and must be taken for granted, and anyone's opinion or critique but the figure/organisation's critique is prioritized less and is not taken to consideration.

But of course, that's nonsense and sounds more like a black and white fictional system made by a naive child than the more diverse and possibly intimidating reality.

On FFR: The judge batch is more like a group of users, selected by some other users with a strong catalogue of files, that are generally well-received.

In Etterna: Generally you can release whatever you want, but when someone is organizing a pack, you encounter a different way of subbing files. You've probably got one person going over your file (two or more if they're popular - see Project Alpha / Acerola.) Prepare for more subjective critiques, with a lot of the more objective ones being short handed.

lol quaver
ThirdStyle had the same system FFR does.
lol osu

What you probably want, is to find someone to bounce ideas with, and have them explain the basics, which like Choof said, reading Cosmo's guide to charting is an immaculate place to start, but then you actually need to practice. Stick to songs with static BPMs: Monstercat is an amazing place to start. You won't likely make anything amazing from those, but they're fantastic for practice with Sync / Structure. Stick to charting what you like though, or else you're gonna be unmotivated.

[choof]

Originally Posted by XelNya

In Etterna: Generally you can release whatever you want, but when someone is organizing a pack, you encounter a different way of subbing files. You've probably got one person going over your file (two or more if they're popular - see Project Alpha / Acerola.) Prepare for more subjective critiques, with a lot of the more objective ones being short handed.

this depends on the pack, and can also depend on who is running it. guys and gals like myself and rog are going to lean more towards subjectivity because we just like seeing cool ass notes placed to cool ass music. on the other hand, dudes like fission and bobmarley420 are way more technical than I'll ever be. and some lads like halogen are gonna have a healthy dose of both.

Monstercat is an amazing place to start. You won't likely make anything amazing from those, but they're fantastic for practice with Sync / Structure.

rly good point, if you want to stick with fiffer chartz then do some monstercat ones. if it's rejected you have a list of what the various judges are looking for and if it's accepted congrats you are guaranteed that people will play it and likely enjoy it.

the same sentiment applies to stepmania too, but with various other electronic music labels. hunt for some cool sounding 4/4 bleep bloops with a static bpm and start stebping

[ElectricZap9]

I'm charting Puzzle right now, which is one of the few unironically good songs in ncs, it's fairly interesting since It's a swing and layering stuff can be done on it I guess

But I do eventually want to chart artists like Hosome and Otaka Tomooki so I can be like a budget Choof or April

[choof]

you're in for teh long haul then bub, I've been doing this since like 2006 (april's been around for a while as well)

[Wayward Vagabond]

No one wants to be a budget wv






But for real I'll gladly give you input and you can pick my brain about whatever you're stepping any time just pm me

[ElectricZap9]

Considering most dumps in existence (including some older dumps) are structured like a non-dump, would a pure dump be a literal dump of notes with no regard of anything?
Or will dumps always be considered a non-dump one way or another no matter what?
e.g: just look at Vertex Beta and Nintendomario's F8 minipack of doom.

Thanks for existing in my ted talku.

[VisD]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

No one wants to be a budget wv

don't worry

i have a budget wv file in queue

[ElectricZap9]

wv? What's the title for that?

[ositzxz369]

Originally Posted by ElectricZap9

wv? What's the title for that?

wagabond vayward

[ElectricZap9]

Originally Posted by ositzxz369

wagabond vayward

Oh yeah, I just realised wagabond vayward is in here and wv was his acronym, smh my head.

Yeah, I'm never gonna be a budget wv, wasting my time rehashing what others have already theorized in the past.