TWG CXX: Villains United

[TWG Jafar]

Originally Posted by TWG Ursula

yes I am hard-claiming-never-going-to-go-back-and-say-it-was-a-reaction-test the role of the bomb. I thought about claiming oracle/medic to bait the wolves into killing me at night maybe but I didn't want to accidentally out a role from someone CCing me.

Why didn't you just claim you were a power villian? Why bomb out immediatley?

Coming out as the bomb is THE WORST play for the bomb to make. Now they wont be targeted by the wolves ever. You force the villians to choose between real or fake, somethign we can't comfirm without lynching you.

Solid play for wolf under pressure to make, worst play for villian under pressure to make.

[TWG Jafar]

Really hope one of you that came out as Bomb is actually a Medic. That would be sweet.

[TWG Jafar]

Evolving this:

Originally Posted by TWG Jafar

purple = Claimed power role That I believe
Red = Really think town
Orange = leaning town
Gold = unsure
green=thinking hero

1) TWG Auto
2) TWG Captain Hook
3) TWG Hopper
5) TWG Darla
6) TWG Gantu
7) TWG Gaston
9) TWG Jafar
10) TWG Maleficent
12) TWG Randall Boggs
13) TWG Charlez Muntz
15) TWG Shere Khan
16) TWG Sid Phillips
17) TWG Syndrome
18) TWG The Queen
19) TWG Ursula
20) TWG Yzma

2) TWG Captain Hook
3) TWG Hopper
5) TWG Darla ---would bet Darla or Yzma for MW
6) TWG Gantu
9) TWG Jafar
10) TWG Maleficent
12) TWG Randall Boggs
13) TWG Charlez Muntz
15) TWG Shere Khan
16) TWG Sid Phillips ----- Want to leave bomb claims alone. Would lean Ursula as fake
18) TWG The Queen
19) TWG Ursula ----- Want to leave bomb claims alone. would lean Ursula as fake.
20) TWG Yzma ---would bet Darla or Yzma for MW

I'd pretty much guarentee one wolf in Muntz/randall. I think we should eliminate both before we go into counterclaims/MW hunt.

#shoot Muntz/Randall.

[TWG The Queen]

re: day 4, i think we kill ursula. im struggling with this because this is sort of a mystery game, we know possible roles but we dont know anything about how the setup is generated. the reaction from ursula to sid's counterclaim looks pretty good to me, considering that there could maybe possibly be 2 bombs. the initial claim looked hero to me, and ursula has been on my radar for a while.

ultimately, considering how many question marks there are in the setup, i dont think roleclaims can be free passes. i think u kill people who look scummy. ursula looks like the best kill.

waiting on input from u all. i can shoot, or we can lynch without shooting, or u can lynch someone else without shooting anyone but i would be voting ursula. take ur pick!!!

[TWG The Queen]

Originally Posted by TWG Jafar

I'd pretty much guarentee one wolf in Muntz/randall. I think we should eliminate both before we go into counterclaims/MW hunt.

#shoot Muntz/Randall.

i could live with this, seems like charles is a dead man walking so i could take that shot. waiting on more input

[TWG Jafar]

Randall:

Most inactive player in the game. Least pressure. Suspicious. Wolves should be hopping all over this easy lynch target. Shere Kahn has received more hate, and he has at least one or two posts that are useful.


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Muntz:

When you get a vigi kill you should do some of your own digging and analysis. I just don't see it in Muntz's posts. I see a hard step away from shooting Auto (who was pretty generally agreed on before the change in targets). To the "inactives" pile, which seems like it was subjectively made.

I had like 60 posts at the time I shouldn't have been even on that list, let alone being considered a prime candidate to be shot on the basis of inactivity.

Shere kahn only has like 15 posts, but of the three that have words in them, he directly callsout Auto as a phony.

Randall may be a hero, and despite being included in that list, and brought up by almost everyone:

Originally Posted by TWG Yzma

Oh that list I would choose between Randall And Jafar, those are gut feelings without looking back though

1- Randal
1 - Jafar

Originally Posted by TWG Maleficent

if we choose between these two i'd rather go with randall, because with jafar there's a little more hope that he'll come back (even though some of his posts are ehhhhhhhhhhhh)
i'd probably prefer gaston to jafar too since he's pulled the empty promise shit twice

2 - Randall
1 - Jafar
1 - Gaston

Originally Posted by TWG Syndrome

Yo charles, on that list id say randall or gaston

3 - Randall
2 - Gaston
1 - Jafar

Originally Posted by TWG Captain Hook

Sounds like a plan. I personally would like to see Jafar's flip because his posting has been a bit odd.

3 - Randall
2 - Gaston
2 - Jafar

Originally Posted by TWG Darla

So it looks like at least a couple more people are talking. Also, from the gunshot list, definitely either Gaston or Randall.

4 - Randall
3 - Gaston
2 - Jafar

Originally Posted by TWG Charles Muntz

It's a toss up between Gaston & Jafar for me. Randall's inactivity doesn't strike me as wolfy rather than somebody who's been tagging along the thread from afar. I want to go Jafar for being rather supportive on the side and making curious plays, as him openly asking for the gun holders.

There's my notice, about some time till hammer. I want to hear people esp the lynchee and Yzma to elaborate her thoughts on Jafar.

So how do you get from Randall being the most popular choice for the shooting to wanting to shoot me and skipping Gaston?

Why the moment I show up in the thread and see I have a gun pointed at me do you back off of me and post this:

Originally Posted by TWG Charles Muntz

My b Jafar I didn't catch that, it still stands though that I feel you've been on the protective side. Considering Gaston more and I might even go as far as Randall or Hopper. For now, consider both of you on the line, I just don't want to go

OKay so now you're thinking Gaston because I defended myself:

Originally Posted by TWG The Queen

gaston and jafar both look villa to me, i would shoot elsewhere but im not the man with the golden gun. if ur not going to shoot a top wagon charles then u should just shoot who u wanna shoot

Queen says don't shoot Gaston or Me.

Originally Posted by TWG Jafar

Gaston is an okay shot I guess, but it still feels like a shot in the dark, because connections to him are weak.

I would shoot Auto.
I'm starting to think about shooting Maleficent.

Auto starts getting heat again from a lot of people and then he posts this cheesey shit:

Originally Posted by TWG Charles Muntz

I go by Guntu's read and will say this is surely a wolf being dead to rights. Can't really add anything else from what you guys had to say this phase other than this guy is an open book.

THEN WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU SHOOT AUTO???!!!???? WHY FIRE INTO A HAYSTACK?

You don't go "I'm pretty positive this guy is a Hero" Whoops let me shoot this random inactive instead!

[TWG Jafar]

I'm back to feeling confident about #ShootMuntz.

[TWG Yzma]

funnily enough, I don't think we've seen CHarles Muntz viewing the thread since last night
did he say he wasn't gonna be online, or are we at the stage now that he realizes anything he says will be used against him and is just viewing anon-ly

also i think it's kinda funny how randall is a chameleon character and is most likely anon also

[TWG Maleficent]

shooting randall would be a giant waste of time if he's villain, suspicions about him have been raised across the board and his posts basically give no read possibilities
i think i made it clear that i am perfectly okay with shooting charles, especially since he basically said "no comment" just like auto did
i still want to see ursula get shot tho cuz there's no way she's villa (fucking duh) or medic (why would putting yourself at risk help as a fucking medic, as opposed to

[TWG Yzma]

k so that fantastical thought I had last night was that ursula's an oracle

baiting a kill on herself so we could get a full card flip but idk if that's worth it, just fucks things up and is prolly not worth it

and that Queen was getting cold feet because she was afraid that Ursula would cardflip Queen as the godfather

that's a ridiculous scenario though, sleepy-me was looking for something exciting

it's more likely that either Sid or Ursula is a hero fake-claiming

i would say we SHOOT Ursula and then lynch CHarles

[TWG Yzma]

Originally Posted by TWG Yzma

and that Queen was getting cold feet because she was afraid that Ursula would cardflip Queen as the godfather

and this doesn't work anymore given her posts today anyway

[TWG Jafar]

What about shoot charles lynch randall, deal with bombs tomorrow?

[TWG Maleficent]

i'm just gonna vote charles because there's no way i'm letting him live past today

[TWG Maleficent]

randall flipping villain would be the most useless flip possible
him flipping blue (unless he's oracle) would be the worst flip possible

[TWG Maleficent]

meant to say most useless/worst lynch, meh

[TWG Jafar]

Randall making it to late game would be worse.

[TWG Maleficent]

i'm not gonna doubt that at all, i'm just wondering if taking care of randall is really more important than dealing with the two bomb claims

[TWG The Queen]

hey guys, looks like its an echo chamber in here. theres more reservation on ursula so im thinking bullet gets delivered to the head of charles. sending kill in 30 minutes, speak now or forever hold ur codpiece

[TWG Jafar]

Honestly, I'd back off Randall if Charles flips villian. Most of my Randall hate is coming from how Charles didn't shoot him despite Randall having the most votes for him.

Shoot Charles, if he flips hero lynch Randall.
Shoot Charles, if he flips villian lynch Ursula.

What do people think about that?

[TWG Jafar]

Originally Posted by TWG Maleficent

i'm not gonna doubt that at all, i'm just wondering if taking care of randall is really more important than dealing with the two bomb claims

To my knowledge, we still haven't figured out if the game could generate two bombs. Hypothetically, if we knew the game could generate a cop/gunsmith/bomb/bomb setup would you still be up for killing Ursula?