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Old 03-10-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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Default Learning Doubles on Stepmania

I know there are a couple of you who have mastered doubles play on Stepmania. I am just getting started. I have incorperated an 8 finger spread setup to try and neutralize one finger per arrow.

It goes something like this

Left pad
left-w
down-e
up-r
right- space bar

Right pad
left- right arrow key
down-numpad 7
up- numpad 8
right- numpad 9

digits i am using go in order from left ring finger to right ring finger (ring,middle, index, thumb is on space bar, right thumb on right arrow, index, middle, ring)

Has anyone had success with a similar setup or can tell me a better one? so far I can fc light 1 and 2s, but have only been playing for 2 days? did you find that you had to relearn everything, and does this affect your singles play at all? thanks.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:02 PM   #2
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LOL OMG I was so confused LOL

I thought this was a thread on learning doubles on pad. There are more patterns to learn and habits to get used to to. Alas, it's a keyboard thread.

I've never played doubles on keyboard, sorry bro. I think it's just one handed but harder.
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Double is really hard, and I don't think there are so many charts. If you master this, you'll truly be an SM god. Solo will be easy for you then most likely.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:14 PM   #4
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:31 PM   #5
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Double is really hard, and I don't think there are so many charts. If you master this, you'll truly be an SM god. Solo will be easy for you then most likely.
Only have the official files from ddr, no super hard files yet. I played solo for a while way back and thought it was easy. Just wasnt sure how to implement 8 key, not sure whether my thumbs or pinkies would like to be added. After this i might try 10 fingerd PIU doubles. That would be the ultimate.

I have a slight edge over most because i also play piano.

also, Xia, do you have any proof, or was that a joke post? I have seen Izzy do it, as well as others on youtube. It would be harder to develop muscle memory usuing less keys.
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For a short amount of time I tried doubles, and it is DEFINITELY a difficult thing to get used to, or for that matter, even play remotely close to decently.

Not all keyboards are the same, and the setup I used might not respond for you, but I did: ASDF / HJKL with the index through pinky on each hand. I was able to play some easier standard charts from Izzy's 8-arrowed pack when I played, but even still it was pretty difficult to manage.

I would try both your pinky and your thumb and see what is better for you, I personally think the thumb would be harder to coordinate compared to the pinky for more complex files, but it might be different for you.
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We need more 8 keys, it can easily be used for 7-key IIDX mode
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:33 PM   #8
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For a short amount of time I tried doubles, and it is DEFINITELY a difficult thing to get used to, or for that matter, even play remotely close to decently.

Not all keyboards are the same, and the setup I used might not respond for you, but I did: ASDF / HJKL with the index through pinky on each hand. I was able to play some easier standard charts from Izzy's 8-arrowed pack when I played, but even still it was pretty difficult to manage.

I would try both your pinky and your thumb and see what is better for you, I personally think the thumb would be harder to coordinate compared to the pinky for more complex files, but it might be different for you.
I know what you mean man, im traveling into uncharted territories here. I think my keyboard might be a little smaller than yours cause, hjkl kinda arches my wrists in a weird way (you know, the carpel tunnel.) With the setup im usuing my hands are nicely spaced out so the thumbs do not actually seem like that much of an issue. Could you link me to the pack you are discussing, i am not sure how difficult it is in reference to anything else.

also, speed wise right off the bat I can tell my thumbs can hammer faster then my pinkies (retarded appendige.) Not much difference right now, just preparing for when i take over the world.

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I know what you mean man, im traveling into uncharted territories here. I think my keyboard might be a little smaller than yours cause, hjkl kinda arches my wrists in a weird way (you know, the carpel tunnel.) With the setup im usuing my hands are nicely spaced out so the thumbs do not actually seem like that much of an issue. Could you link me to the pack you are discussing, i am not sure how difficult it is in reference to anything else.

also, speed wise right off the bat I can tell my thumbs can hammer faster then my pinkies (retarded appendige.) Not much difference right now, just preparing for when i take over the world.
Izzy's 8-arrowed Pack, the songs I'm talking about are really easy in my opinion compared to someone who could actually be GOOD at 8-key. I got like A-AA on them most of the time on light so judge for yourself. I only played doubles maybe for a few weeks if that, before I focused way more on 4-key and started back into 6-key again.

I generally hammer with my arm and not my wrists, so maybe that is why I can use my pinky versus a thumb.
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I played solo for a while way back and thought it was easy.
Play harder files.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:04 PM   #11
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Play harder files.
Your extremely helpful, thanks for posting.
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That was a serious post, btw. Try downloading the BCMPs if you think solo is too easy.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:26 PM   #13
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:43 PM   #14
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:01 PM   #15
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um I know people that play piu double thats 10 freaking keys dawg
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I tried 8k for a while. No one steps 8k (heck, there aren't so many 6k files), so if you want more than 6, go for bms. Besides, considering stepmania has chord cohesion, 8k is just too much.
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Your extremely helpful, thanks for posting.
Yeah, if you think Solo is too easy then you need to play the more difficult files.
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I tried 8k for a while. No one steps 8k (heck, there aren't so many 6k files), so if you want more than 6, go for bms. Besides, considering stepmania has chord cohesion, 8k is just too much.
Yes, the jumps have been the hardest thing to get used to. Able to AAA PFC 4s and 5s now on judge 4. Feel like im getting the hang quite quickly. Just felt like doubles was an entire half of the game that most people dont get to.
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Uh, doubles is an entire half of the game that most people play on pad.
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