Old 07-10-2019, 12:09 AM   #2721
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@YoshL
1. Are you allowed to post the full role pm ?
2. Is your red check on FFA real ?

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Also Haku if you're the one who sent the item I got

I'd love an explanation to how it works

because I am slightly terrified I'm done this phase
I sent an item to H&H and he died.
I'm assuming the item either got randomly redistribued to you, but that could be wrong.
I don't know how your item works regardless of what it is.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:11 AM   #2722
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i'm an even-odd role, protect n1, then i can "get certain information about the player's role" n2 from the same player.
So you protected sunfan night one, since he's who you got info about? That's a super lucky coincidence for the fact that he seered you red the same day you found out he has powers we should be afraid of and kill him instead of you for.

The lack of wolf kill night one implies that they tried to kill sunfan and you are why he survived yes?

I'm trying to come to a reasonable conclusion for why a wolf team would decide that deliberately blocking their own night kill to get information about the person they know isn't a wolf instead of just killing them was the right play.

If sunfan actually seered you red, the chain of events here is like

1/ You blocked your team's own night kill to get info about sunfan
2/ You got info about him the same phase he outed you as a wolf
3/ You're going to die, putting the wolf team down one
4/ Even if your team then kills sunfan, they've gotten a 1-for-1 instead of a 1-for-0 just killing him back on step 1
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:14 AM   #2723
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And with that, going to bed. Going to be working tomorrow from 10-6 server which means we'll see how much I can justify distracting myself while I'm at work to post, but I might not post as much until around 7 server tomorrow night.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:17 AM   #2724
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- When a player dies, an item from them is placed into the item circulation, thus, revealing of hidden mechanics for each player can be triggered by some of these items.
^ Probably the most useful information for guessing what's going on.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:19 AM   #2725
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Okay so saw the kill, seems expected. Saw the hard red claim, seems remarkable.

Sunfan, pardon me if I'm wrong because of the way the current TWGs run making it impossible to do anything in private but isn't it generally considered a bad idea to come out and go "ohay seered somebody" when you have no way to know if you're able to be protected afterwards? Is there something we should know about whether say...getting this lynch will make you level up again?

I'm prepared to believe Daikyi's a wolf, he was already on my list coming into the phase, and like...if you want to claim a wincon for hitting level 3 that also means we can win as town I'm a lot more likely to get on board with lynching him.

You said you unlock powers by levelling up. You got a level by Roundbox surviving? You want to talk about that? Picking a person to not get lynched on day 1 of a 22 player game seems so trivially easy that I have a hard time believing that would unlock a power for you, but if it did, what was that power? The next level got you a seering for 'predicting the night kill' except mellon died at the hands of a 3p that we know was a 3p because he's been flipped, which means the wolves didn't actually get a kill. Shouldn't that ability have said predict -a- night kill?

Hey look it's mechanics dev asking mechanics questions but yeah, please what's going on here before we just lynch somebody even if they're probably a wolf.
these are all valid questions

I am not a seer; I can't just sit on this red check and not out it because I could die later. I only can check someone once, then never again. Maybe someone out there can protect me, I guess we'll find out, but, and I'll talk about this momentarily, when I saw that someone knew my role PM (accompanied with text that makes me think that the person who saw it was not town aligned) I wanted to out the information at the beginning of this day because wolves sometimes can kill people during the day

so if I just sit on the info, wolves can kill me and then town loses all info that I have

I got no powers from roundbox surviving, it instead brought me to level 2, which I could then gain powers by getting to level 3 (I could not directly attempt to get to level 3)

"predicting the nightkill" is bad phrasing on my part, the actual condition is "predict who dies at the start of the next phase" and i can only use it at night
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:22 AM   #2726
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I'm surprised you didn't use this on H&H tbh.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:23 AM   #2727
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I'm surprised you didn't use this on H&H tbh.
predicting sven would die?
innocent children usually don't die first night
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:26 AM   #2728
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predicting sven would die?
innocent children usually don't die first night
They usually don't die at all until wolves feel safe with remaining power roles
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:29 AM   #2729
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I want to say a little bit more about how I knew Yoshl saw my role pm

based on something I was told, and I was told something very, very specific, I figured it was probably Yoshl who saw my role PM

I looked at the OP, and I thought Yoshl was the only person who, based on what I was told, would fit the bill (It was possible that it was funnier or dafty and I just don't know their preferences well enough or something; it was just super, super likely it was only Yoshl)

in this text, I know two things

that the person knows that I know they saw the Role PM

and that they know something else that I refuse to elaborate upon
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Soundwave, do you have any clue why your name is not in op ?
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:30 AM   #2731
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I suppose it's far too late to be asking this but eh.

Is Innocent Child defaulted to town or can an innocent child also be a wolf?
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I suppose it's far too late to be asking this but eh.

Is Innocent Child defaulted to town or can an innocent child also be a wolf?
only town
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:31 AM   #2733
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Soundwave, do you have any clue why your name is not in op ?
either Xiz is making a dumb joke or its related to Gradiant's ability and him leaving soundwave off of his reads list was on purpose
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:33 AM   #2734
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Okay I just wanted to make sure.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:33 AM   #2735
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also

KP = Killing Power (an umbrella term used for any role that can kill another)

Wolves, Serial Killers, Vigilantes, all of these roles have KP
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also

KP = Killing Power (an umbrella term used for any role that can kill another)

Wolves, Serial Killers, Vigilantes, all of these roles have KP
Awesome. Thanks Sunfan!
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:39 AM   #2737
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I feel like wolf XelNya wouldn't tell me he received an item until I asked him about it which wouldn't have happened this phase because I didn't sent an item directly to Xel.

Kind of want to town read over that, but it's possible that if I send an item to someone that died, wolves receive the item randomly or something.

Also, not a fan of that "9" thing that probably triggered something for wolves as well.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:41 AM   #2738
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I want to say a little bit more about how I knew Yoshl saw my role pm

based on something I was told, and I was told something very, very specific, I figured it was probably Yoshl who saw my role PM

I looked at the OP, and I thought Yoshl was the only person who, based on what I was told, would fit the bill (It was possible that it was funnier or dafty and I just don't know their preferences well enough or something; it was just super, super likely it was only Yoshl)
I'm just not following at all.
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:44 AM   #2739
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I'm just not following at all.
I probably can't say /exactly/ what happened
I don't know yoshl's waifu exactly but I know something about him (or her but Yoshl did say it was a dude earlier)
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:47 AM   #2740
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oh nvm then.
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