TWG 197 - TWGood End 2

[SubaruPoptart]

so fuckin wait-

[SubaruPoptart]

I'm about to head out, could someone go back and see what the fucking claims have been because holy shit it might be XelNya. There's A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY that _Zenith_ IS THE PR, and cedolad IS THE OTHER VANILLA TOWN.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I'm about to head out, could someone go back and see what the fucking claims have been because holy shit it might be XelNya. There's A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY that _Zenith_ IS THE PR, and cedolad IS THE OTHER VANILLA TOWN.

i'll recheck everything

[SubaruPoptart]

DUDE THAT MEANS IT'S 4-1 HOLY SHIT HOLD ON.

I'M GONNA UM- I'M HEADING OUT BUT USE THIS INFO AS YOU WILL OK.

[cedolad]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Yeah the origin of the item doesn't make sense; I'm waiting for XelNya to come in before I do a vote. If it's this 4-1 world like cedo(?) keeps proposing I'm feeling comfortable, but I'm concerned that the 3-2 world is how it is.

Zenith said its 4-1, I said from my perspective it's 3-2.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by TWG Jade Harley

1 Basic Seer
1 Basic Watcher or 1 Basic Tracker
1 Basic Guard or 1 Basic Jailkeeper


6 Basic Townies [No Role]
(ONLY ONE UNCLAIMED)

1 Basic Thief or 1 Basic Tinkerer
1 Basic Strongman or 1 Basic Ninja
1 Informant


1 Alien XY


Player list:

1. Hakulyte Regular Seer Another, killed n3
2. Bugkid666 Basic Townie
3. Mellonxcollie Basic Townie, lynched d3
4. XelNya
5. Funnygirl555 True Phantom Thief, lynched d4
6. Flashflash account Basic Jailkeeper, killed n1
7. Wayward Vagabond, _Zenith_
8. Cedolad
9. Shadow_God_10 Basic Townie, killed n2
10. the sun fan Basic Townie, lynched d1
11. Xiz Alien XY, lynched d2
12. SubaruPoptart Basic Townie
13. evanescence_death4ever MixMasterLar

Ok I edited the og post with what we know. So essentially the roles we have yet to claim are:

1 Basic Watcher or 1 Basic Tracker

1 Basic Town

1 Basic Strongman or 1 Basic Ninja
1 Informant

The people left to claim are MML, Zenith, Cedolad, and Xelnya.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Funny was the only one who visted Haku in the night, so that's 100% confirmed wolf . It was foolish to believe I wouldn't target Haku.

Cedo's cfd post makes no sense, wasn't particulary gunning for Funny before and when you add in the inconsistencies with their other EODs it paints a very clear picture that Cedo is wolf Number 2, about as confirmed as you can be without mechanical info IMHO

Xel sat out every single damn EoD with only catcalls and insults and his first big push of the entire game was to start a last second wagon off of a confirmed wolf to a confirmed town. He's likely our third.

It's possible Xel just really fucked up and it's Zenith but I go Xel > Zenith every time here.

The game has been solved, it's just a matter of getting in the votes

I really do believe MML is our Watcher here. There's no reason for him to jump the gun and hard claim Funnygurl as wolf if he was also a wolf?

Originally Posted by cedolad

funnygirl

Also xel you fucking sneak. I trusted you

I also think it should be noted that when Cedo voted fg, he was the deciding vote. MML, me, and Suburu had voted fg and Cedo, Zenith, fg, and Xelnya were undecided. I don't believe cedo would have insta killed unless he was on our side so i'm thinking he's our basic town. (also yeah I changed my mind on cedo w/e)

So my current thought is this:

Bug - Basic Town
Suburu - Basic Town
Cedolad - Basic Town
MML - Basic Watcher

Zenith & Xelnya - 1 Basic Strongman or 1 Basic Ninja and 1 Informant

My vote would be to get out Zenith first.

[bugkid666]

also another thing, notice how Zenith has talked very little this entire time and suddenly when he's under scrutiny he posts quite often despite still being busy... might be too much of a meta read but I thought it was worth bringing up

[cedolad]

Also don't think a wolf MML would hard claim funny as a wolf in that scenario because it was Mylo, and that same post he voted for funny he says I'm wolf number 2. He could have pushed for me day 3 and would have won.

[SubaruPoptart]

OK so by the way on further thought on my walk home, it's probably not a guaranteed 4-1 cuz I just realized that there's a possibility the PR's dead and 2 wolves exist so fuck.

[SubaruPoptart]

I might be second-guessing myself though, I know for a fact I'm missing something but I can't for the life of me figure out w h a t

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I might be second-guessing myself though, I know for a fact I'm missing something but I can't for the life of me figure out w h a t

you've forgotten that I found a hidden immunity idol

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

you've forgotten that I found a hidden immunity idol

pls no there's too many new aspects to this game I don't know if that's true or not >:(

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

pls no there's too many new aspects to this game I don't know if that's true or not >:(

LMAO sorry it's fake

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by cedolad

You literally said Xiz gave you the item, and now you're saying you got it from Funny. So when did you lie? When you first claimed the item, or just now after I've caught you lying?

How did my item work then, care to debunk that?

It had to go through Funny in some way if the items Xiz could have given are truly fake. This is actually something I've thought about and truly don't know the machinations of it because c h a o s and I don't have the info both of them do about items, thievery, and the such.

I know Bug is a fucking idiot for backing down on his hard Cedo wolf read literally last phase, like what the fuck are you doing? Will you not listen to any logic train or do you just get swayed instantly at whatever text your eyes decide to land on?

I have Cedo visiting Xel last night, and the only possible thing that could do that is the remaining Wolf. Even so, if you're eager to discuss hypotheticals which we literally shouldn't be doing, the game is STILL AUTO. You lynch Cedo, it's 3-1, I die, it becomes 2-1, you have two clears in final three, and the game is finished. How are you three not understanding that, and once again Xel is the fucking one who pointed it out in the first place.

Throwback to when I entered this phase by saying MML had the perfect deep wolf situation where he literally had a fake PR claim going, bussed and killed his wolf partner Funny, and nobody would've been the wiser or even had a second thought about him if I didn't step in because I finally have time outside of work to talk.

[_Zenith_]

It would make zero sense to have a thief in a game where the items they could steal never worked, you're just vanilla at that point with the chance of being watched/tracked/seered/jailed so it's actually worse than vanilla, that's my logic behind my item working to kill MML here.

This same kind of fuckery happened in dichotomy a few years ago, the very same kind.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

also another thing, notice how Zenith has talked very little this entire time and suddenly when he's under scrutiny he posts quite often despite still being busy... might be too much of a meta read but I thought it was worth bringing up

It's called life bub

This is exactly NAI

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Because I also had another thought: does the misdirect kill the person regardless of the action they do on them a la Veteran Town of Salem style? Or only nightkill attempts?

It said killing action, so any possible way I could've died I'm assuming, like a vigi would have died if they selected me, or a wolf in our case here

[XelNya]

the fuck is this nonsense

i'm at home sick so you'll have to forgive me if I'm a bit scarce

but I'm the last townie and any iso of my game will lead you to see:

1. I have played to town's collective best interest this whole game, including calling lar on I dunno, voting the other fucking PR. Spelling out our wincon, sorts of things.
2. I did not hard cfd mellon, as I had hard expressed my interest there not only during the phase it happened, but the day before. Haku gets a bit washy and sometimes won't vote where it needs to be unless you push him. I gave him that push, and while we missed, it was the best lynch of the day.

I'm town.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

the fuck is this nonsense

i'm at home sick so you'll have to forgive me if I'm a bit scarce

but I'm the last townie and any iso of my game will lead you to see:

1. I have played to town's collective best interest this whole game, including calling lar on I dunno, voting the other fucking PR. Spelling out our wincon, sorts of things.
2. I did not hard cfd mellon, as I had hard expressed my interest there not only during the phase it happened, but the day before. Haku gets a bit washy and sometimes won't vote where it needs to be unless you push him. I gave him that push, and while we missed, it was the best lynch of the day.

I'm town.

let me further elaborate on point one

what wolf stops anyone from voting a town pr

who would be that fucking daft

[SubaruPoptart]

I can understand doing it for long-con like was mentioned earlier but you do bring up some pretty good points there-